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Old November 3rd, 2009, 09:57 AM
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Default Where did it all go? Pplex + EStane

So I decided on this stack based on what I have been reading around the forum and what is available. Epistane did wonders for me when I stacked it with Trend, so hoping to have the similar results with pplex.

I am attempting to gain incredible strength. The season has been rough on me and now I am looking to get back at it.

As for the "Where did it all go?" portion of this thread. I am curious as to if anyone is going to still attempt to produce any of the "discontinued" products. I cannot find a bottle of Epistane anywhere, I guess I should have stocked up while I had the chance. I went to the IBE website and they are asking for $85 a bottle. I originally purchased my 4 bottles for 27.95 each earlier this year.

Top that off, people got smart and bought out all the Havoc too!

I've decided to go with CEL's because of price, reps on the board, and availability.

Stack and Supplements -
CEL's P-Plex
CEL's E-Stane
CEL's Formestane
Anabolic Innovation's Cycle Assist
Muscle Milk Protein
Twin Labs Amino Fuel

Debating whether formestane is going to be potent enough as a stand alone PCT. Any input is appreciated.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 10:00 AM
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So I decided on this stack based on what I have been reading around the forum and what is available. Epistane did wonders for me when I stacked it with Trend, so hoping to have the similar results with pplex.

I am attempting to gain incredible strength. The season has been rough on me and now I am looking to get back at it.

As for the "Where did it all go?" portion of this thread. I am curious as to if anyone is going to still attempt to produce any of the "discontinued" products. I cannot find a bottle of Epistane anywhere, I guess I should have stocked up while I had the chance. I went to the IBE website and they are asking for $85 a bottle. I originally purchased my 4 bottles for 27.95 each earlier this year.

Top that off, people got smart and bought out all the Havoc too!

I've decided to go with CEL's because of price, reps on the board, and availability.

Stack and Supplements -
CEL's P-Plex
CEL's E-Stane
CEL's Formestane
Anabolic Innovation's Cycle Assist
Muscle Milk Protein
Twin Labs Amino Fuel

Debating whether formestane is going to be potent enough as a stand alone PCT. Any input is appreciated.
P Plex/H Drol would be a far better choice IMO.

Formestane is also nowhere near enough for PCT.

PS - Please do yourself a favor and never ingest "Muscle milk" ever again. lol

Sugar and fat is the single most terrible combination and quickest pathway to bodyfat possible.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 01:44 PM
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So I decided on this stack based on what I have been reading around the forum and what is available. Epistane did wonders for me when I stacked it with Trend, so hoping to have the similar results with pplex.

I am attempting to gain incredible strength. The season has been rough on me and now I am looking to get back at it.

As for the "Where did it all go?" portion of this thread. I am curious as to if anyone is going to still attempt to produce any of the "discontinued" products. I cannot find a bottle of Epistane anywhere, I guess I should have stocked up while I had the chance. I went to the IBE website and they are asking for $85 a bottle. I originally purchased my 4 bottles for 27.95 each earlier this year.

Top that off, people got smart and bought out all the Havoc too!

I've decided to go with CEL's because of price, reps on the board, and availability.

Stack and Supplements -
CEL's P-Plex
CEL's E-Stane
CEL's Formestane
Anabolic Innovation's Cycle Assist
Muscle Milk Protein
Twin Labs Amino Fuel

Debating whether formestane is going to be potent enough as a stand alone PCT. Any input is appreciated.
Formestane IMO is not for PCT use. There are better options (you'll want better options).

What is your goal for this stack?
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 01:59 PM
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@ Damage

I've only ever used muscle milk as a meal replacement and because of it's taste. I guess I could compare it to GNC's Mass XXX. Muscle milk is fairly cheap too.

@ Sonic

Formestane isn't huh? Could I go with reversitrol and/or pSARM? I try to keep it simple when it comes to a PCT. My last PCT I used Formadrol and dosed off with epi (Trend/epi).

My goals are to accumulate as much strength as possible. Gains in mass are not my concern, but will come regardless.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 02:22 PM
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@ Damage

I've only ever used muscle milk as a meal replacement and because of it's taste. I guess I could compare it to GNC's Mass XXX. Muscle milk is fairly cheap too.

@ Sonic

Formestane isn't huh? Could I go with reversitrol and/or pSARM? I try to keep it simple when it comes to a PCT. My last PCT I used Formadrol and dosed off with epi (Trend/epi).

My goals are to accumulate as much strength as possible. Gains in mass are not my concern, but will come regardless.
What does that mean(in red)? And, NO I don't believe pSARM or Reversitol to be PCT supplements .
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 02:59 PM
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@ Damage

I've only ever used muscle milk as a meal replacement and because of it's taste. I guess I could compare it to GNC's Mass XXX. Muscle milk is fairly cheap too.

@ Sonic

Formestane isn't huh? Could I go with reversitrol and/or pSARM? I try to keep it simple when it comes to a PCT. My last PCT I used Formadrol and dosed off with epi (Trend/epi).

My goals are to accumulate as much strength as possible. Gains in mass are not my concern, but will come regardless.
Muscle Milk is literally a milk shake if not worse with all the genetically modified ingredients they pump into it. If "Buttermilk" doesn't red flag you in the ingredients list then I don't know what will.

Just refrain from using it if you're not looking to add bodyfat. You'll thank me when you learn about nutrition.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 03:21 PM
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Muscle Milk is literally a milk shake if not worse with all the genetically modified ingredients they pump into it. If "Buttermilk" doesn't red flag you in the ingredients list then I don't know what will.

Just refrain from using it if you're not looking to add bodyfat. You'll thank me when you learn about nutrition.
Lol Damage.. But anyway, BACK ON TOPIC. I can't find E-Stane but I found a site that still carries P-Plex and H-Drol if you wanted to run that stack.. PM me if you want the site..
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@ Damage

I've only ever used muscle milk as a meal replacement and because of it's taste. I guess I could compare it to GNC's Mass XXX. Muscle milk is fairly cheap too.

@ Sonic

Formestane isn't huh? Could I go with reversitrol and/or pSARM? I try to keep it simple when it comes to a PCT. My last PCT I used Formadrol and dosed off with epi (Trend/epi).

My goals are to accumulate as much strength as possible. Gains in mass are not my concern, but will come regardless.
Formestane can be used in PCT or on cycle and bridged into pct......I would not recommend any product containing a prop blend in pct though
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The PHes are gone because I ate all of them. Sorry about that.

You could use form for PCT if you really wanted to, but I wouldn't. ATD would be a better choice.
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 07:28 PM
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Alright aside from all jokes and everything, I am looking for input on a good PCT for this stack. I found a website with both E-Stane and P-plex. It's odd that a website, with CEL reps on it, sell only THREE CEL products. So no more muscle milk, it's not an issue. I just used it as a meal replacement like I said. I know plenty of other better proteins out there. I just have had all my money in cash at school and have yet to send it to my bank back home.

@Sonic

When I was running a PCT for my Trend/Epi , I used formadrolXT/20mg-10mg of epistane.
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