Does any of this Methyl stuff really work???

[BigDawg]

I currently used some winni depot and the MOHN-XT/Methyl 1 stack and it did not do anything for me at all. My twin brother used 1-AAD and Winni depot and he did not get any results as well. I could not feel or see the stuff working so I just stopped after 2 weeks and don't plan to start it up until after Christmas when I get some creatine. My question is, is their really anything (Methyl wise) out their that you can see and feel real gains from?

[AXResources]

That is very strange that you guys did not get anything from it. You are only the second people I have ever heard that from.. How much were you taking, what was your diet like and what type of training were you doing???? Remeber, everyone's body reacts differently to things and you may of had to do some different things.

[SNS8778]

BigDawg,

For you to not respond to the products that you mentioned is pretty strange. I think that board members would be able to offer you more assistance if you could provide us with the following info:
- Age
- Height
- Weight
- Results Expected
- A sample of what your diet is like
- Your daily protein intake
- A sample of how you train

Individual response to anything is different, and there can be many factors involved in how well a person responds (or doesn't respond).

[JONSON BULLARD]

I JUST TOOK THE SAME STUFF "WINNI DEPOT" METHEL 1 TEST, AND I FOUND IT ALRIGHT BUT I ALSO TOOK C-4 CREATINE AND GLUTAMINE WITH IT. WITHIN THE FIRST BOTTLE I GOT PROBABLY 10 POUNDS OUT OF IT. AND IT ALSO SAYS TAKE 2 BOTTLES . ALSO TRY LOOKING UP "BOLDIONE" THE SHIT IS CRAZY ITS ABOUT 30$ A BOTTLE AND YOU CAN TAKE IT UP TO 12 WEEKS I PUT INSAME POUNDS ON WITH THIS. STRENGTH YES BUT, SIZE OUT OF CONTROL. JUST LOOK IT UP. THE MAKER IS MOLECULAR NUTRITION BUT YOU CAN FIND ALMOST ANYWHERE JUST GO TO A GOOD SUPLEMENT SITE AND SEARCH FOR BOLDIONE, ALSO THE SAME MAKERS MAKE SOME STUFF CALLED 3 ALPHA ITS GOOD ITS LIKE A WINSTROL. TAKE THREE BOTTLE OF BOLD AND 3 BOTTLES OF 3 ALPHA AND SEE WHAT YA GET I KNOW ON THAT I COULD PUT 20 POUNDS ON AND KEEP 10 TO 15 CASE BY CASE BASIS

[wedgylx]

The problem is that alot of companies now are making second rate M1T products. I've never heard of Winnie Depot so i cant comment on it, but that may have been the problem

[BigDawg]

I'm about 275lbs, 6'2", and I usually try to get atleast 200 grams of protein in each day. I am very big in the back, shoulders and upper chest since I do a lot of shoulder work and incline bench due to the pain I experience from flat bench. I am just looking to put a little more size on to my overall chest and keep the fat from coming to my stomach. Now my twin brother is about 210lbs and bigger than the average guy but he is looking to keep his strength and cut his body fat down too (even though he has none). I am only bigger because I played football and powerlifted while he played b-ball and did track. We usually get the same results out of everything but fatburners and this time we both got no results out of what we took. I usually have one day of powerlifting for flat bench and then do everything else in a 15, 12, 10, 8 rep range. This is the first time I have ever took any of these kinds of products and I was not on anything at all before I took them except a CEA stack. Who know's? Maybe me and my brother are just not taking to these kinds of products. We both tried NO2 and creatine and they gave pretty decent results.

[AXResources]

What dosages were you taking?? With you being sooo much bigger than him, you would need a bigger dosage. Also, 200 grams of protein for someone your size is not enough. Minimum, you need 1 gram per body pound.

[SNS8778]

First thing, your dosages may have been off because of your body-size. I would have to know your exact dosages to elaborate further on that.

Also, for the purpose of gaining size, your protein intake is not nearly high enough. Like Myochem said, you need at least 1 gram per pound of body-weight. To top that off, many people further increase their protein intake when using these products. Just an example, I am between 200 and 210 and I consume about 350 grams per day myself.

[BigDawg]

I was taking the recommended dosage on the bottles:

2 Winni Depot tablets a day

2 Methyl-1 Test capsules a day

4 MOHN-XT Capsules a day


I was taking the recommended dosages becasuse the bottles said not to exceed those amounts and I did not want to waste the stuff if it wasn't going to do anything different. I agree that I need to get my protein intake up a lot higher although I do not really want to put on a lot more size. Let me know if I was not taking enough of the products and what dosages I could take that would be better for me.

[SNS8778]

I am surprised that at your dosages that you were not responding better, although I do think that your protein intake has alot to do with it. I would not exceed 2 capsules of Methyl 1-Test per day. It may be that that particular compound just does not work well for you.

If you were to use MOHN without the Methyl 1-Test, your dosage would go up because of your weight. It just depends on whether you wanted to give it another try.

You also mentioned though that you did not want to put on much more size, so let me know what results you want to achive and I can provide some stack suggestions based on your goals.

You can either do that on here or you can e-mail me at the address in my sig. It's up to you.

[The New Breed]

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I have been looking into methyl products for quite some time now and I could've sworn that at least half of the products warned not to take in conjunction with another methylized supplement. Am I wrong?

[SNS8778]

There are certain Methyl supplements that should not be taken together due to toxicity issues. It really depends on which ones you are referring to.

Examples of common cycles that incorporate Methyl's together:
- Methyl-BOL (M1,4ADD) and MOHN XT
- Methyl-1-Dien and MOHN XT (some people even put Methyl Intensity (Methyl DHT) with this one.

Example of what not to do:
- I am not fond of Methyl 1-Test being stacked with 4-AD Methyl Xtreme. It is a very strong stack. If I were going to do it, I would definately keep my dosages low.
- I am not fond of Methyl-BOL and MEthyl 1-Test being taken togehter. Again, too strong.

Note on a particular stack:
- MOHN XT & Methyl 1-Test - at first not many people were doing this, but as more became known about MOHN, the more people that started taking these two items together. I know that Discount Anabolics sells these items as a stack and by my best understanding, they receive a ton of great feedback and no negative side effects have been mentioned to me. This type of stack does need to be done sensibly - meaning proper PCT, liver protection, etc.

Siode note: Happy Holidays to everyone.

[italndiesel]

Truthfully, I think besides the protein being too low for a guy being 275 pounds is that Winnie Depot is not a great product. Are you sure it did not do anything, even increase strength or burn some fat?

As for Molecular nutrition, I love there "EQ" product as well. It is very good for the price as not many companies make an EQ precursor...I wonder why

[BigDawg]

Truthfully, I think besides the protein being too low for a guy being 275 pounds is that Winnie Depot is not a great product. Are you sure it did not do anything, even increase strength or burn some fat?

As for Molecular nutrition, I love there "EQ" product as well. It is very good for the price as not many companies make an EQ precursor...I wonder why


Yeah, regretfully I am sure it did not do anything for me. I only took winni for the 4 weeks and the other stuff for 2 but I will start it again after the New Year and I will be going for 300-350 grams of protein a day and see if that works. I never tried the "EQ" stuff. What does it do?

[skip]

if the winnie depot is not good and the methyl depot is supposed to be the same thing. i just got juised. has anyone had any luck with these products?

Say it isn't so!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why?!?!?!?!?!? :(

[SNS8778]

Skip:

I am not going to speak of the potency on Winnie Depot aka Methyl Depot because it would seem biased anyway. I will say that they are basically the same product with a name chagne though.

[dinoiii]

Yeah, at 215lbs., I ingest roughly 300-400 grams of protein/day depending on current goal.

With any anabolic addition, I usually up it actually to close to 400-500 grams/day.