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Trans_Isomer
April 25th, 2007, 12:59 PM
T_I's 1,3-Dimethylamylamine Experiments

*NOTE: DO NOT try this unless you have a scale that AT LEAST has one decimal place capability of measurement. DO NOT ingest more than 25mg of this chemical at a time. I DO NOT recommend you try this unless you have experience with stimulants and preferably some good math skills for the conversions.

Information:

1,3-dimethylamylamine is a derivative of geranium oil which resembles the body's own chemical messenger, epinephrine (adrenaline). Similar to adrenaline, 1,3-dimethylamylamine exihibits a powerful CNS stimulanting ability, for increased energy, mental clarity, and physical performance. 1,3-dimethylamylamine works through a similar pathway as ephedrine, causing an increase in cAMP (the chemical messenger that triggers fat release and provides potent appetite suppression and thermogenic action).

Purpose:

I like to experiment with bulk powders and try out various things. I am a fan of nootropics and stimulants, but it is usually hard for me to find something that I can actually feel in terms of energy. Caffeine does the trick, but it sometimes leaves me feeling jittery, sometimes I crash from it and when I take it on a regular basis I develop a tolerance for it so I continually need to up the dosage to feel anything. I also do not like it as it has estrogenic properties itself. So, in search of something similar in terms of energy I have stumbled across 1,3-dimethylamylamine. I decided to try it out myself and see how it effects me. I will update this thread periodically as I use the stuff, I won't use it daily.

Materials:

- Scale
- 1 mL oral syringe
- 1 gram 1,3-dimethylamylamine
- Water
- Cup

Procedure:

1 dose = 25 mg
Total 1 gram of powder

1) Weigh out .100 g of powder
2) Add to 10 mL of water. 1 mL of water = 1 g of water, so you can weigh 10g of water out as well. Each 2.5 mL of water now has 25 mg of 1,3-dimethylamylamine.
3) Using the 1 mL oral syringe, take out 2.5 mL from the solution of 1,3-dimethylamylamine, this again has 25 mg of active.

Trans_Isomer
April 25th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Dose 1 (25 mg)

I took 25 mg of 1,3-dimethylamylamine 30 minutes before my exercise routine. I noticed an increase in alertness, energy, and a feeling of euphoria as well. I felt more happier and was just really a lot more awake feeling than usual. At the gym, the workout seemed about the same in terms of lifting, but I felt more energized and not as tired as usual. After a few hours passed I felt the same as usual, no crash from the stuff. Nothing spectacular from the stuff like bouncing off the walls, but just a nice increase in alertness and energy.

RisingAgainst
April 25th, 2007, 01:46 PM
I wanna try this......... (hint hint...) c'mon man!

Trans_Isomer
April 26th, 2007, 01:27 PM
Dose 2 (25 mg)

Exactly the same as above. Only thing is this was taken the day after dose 1, so I thought I might feel a bit less from it as I adjust to it, but the exact same effect occurred. Nothing new, nothing different.

RisingAgainst
April 26th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Not tryin to hijack your thread here bro, Just wanted to say I tried something with a crazy mix of aceltyized aminos, ginko, huperzine, some vinpocetine, and a few other odds and ends, have to say, at a triple dose, it's actually not bad.. lol

Trans_Isomer
April 26th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Not tryin to hijack your thread here bro, Just wanted to say I tried something with a crazy mix of aceltyized aminos, ginko, huperzine, some vinpocetine, and a few other odds and ends, have to say, at a triple dose, it's actually not bad.. lol

Not hijacking at all, I am very interested in what exactly and what dose you used.

RisingAgainst
April 26th, 2007, 02:15 PM
Not hijacking at all, I am very interested in what exactly and what dose you used.
Ingredient list a'coming up!

Proprietary Blend of 1560mg:
Propionyl-L-Carintine
L-Pyroglutamate
L-Tyrosine
Glucuronolactone
CDP-Choline
Choline Citrate
Taurine
Bacopa
Monnieri
Ginkgo Biloba
Vinpocetine
Huperzine A (5%)

Trans_Isomer
April 26th, 2007, 02:33 PM
Ingredient list a'coming up!

Proprietary Blend of 1560mg:
Propionyl-L-Carintine
L-Pyroglutamate
L-Tyrosine
Glucuronolactone
CDP-Choline
Choline Citrate
Taurine
Bacopa
Monnieri
Ginkgo Biloba
Vinpocetine
Huperzine A (5%)

Looks really good, I think vinpocetine gives me terrible headaches in dosages over 10mg though. Is that a pre-made product? If so whats its name and brand?

dinoiii
April 26th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Looks really good, I think vinpocetine gives me terrible headaches in dosages over 10mg though. Is that a pre-made product? If so whats its name and brand?

HA...I hope so, propionyl-L Carnitine makes my nose hairs burn out in bulk. Goddammed bad ass product on the taste domain. (80% of taste is smell you see)...


No idea why I am posting...will sound more intelligent about your experiments there later T_I...I am just trying to throw in some points to talk about so I am subscribed appropriately rather than searching aimlessly again.

D_

RisingAgainst
April 26th, 2007, 05:31 PM
Of course T_I. Pm sent man.

Trans_Isomer
April 26th, 2007, 06:40 PM
HA...I hope so, propionyl-L Carnitine makes my nose hairs burn out in bulk. Goddammed bad ass product on the taste domain. (80% of taste is smell you see)...


No idea why I am posting...will sound more intelligent about your experiments there later T_I...I am just trying to throw in some points to talk about so I am subscribed appropriately rather than searching aimlessly again.

D_

Well that happens with PLCAR when you snort it... :D

Lookin forward to the input! Oh and the post im about to make on dose 3 was from last week, I just didn't make this thread till I got excited about the stuff... onto dose 3 :)

Trans_Isomer
April 26th, 2007, 06:41 PM
Dose 3 (50 mg)

Ok, I wanted to see how a double dose of this stuff would make me feel. I do not advocate anyone doing this. I took 50 mg of the active 30 minutes before the gym, it has been 2 days since my ‘dose 2’ trial. Arriving at the gym, I feel VERY euphoric, almost drunk like. I am very talkative and the best way to describe it was like having a strong buzz. I honestly felt GREAT. My confidence, happiness, energy, all was a 10/10. Going into the workout I start feeling a bit stumbly, like how you get when you drink to much and stagger around. After an hour at the gym I start coming down and start feeling tired. Finish the workout up and get home. I start feeling really tired, but still stumbly and drunk feeling. I go to bed soon after and wake up and feel fine. Would I do this dose again? Yes, but not before the gym! It feels very good, but its definitely too much for the gym, I think the best situation for this would be like wanting the drunk feeling without drinking.

dinoiii
April 26th, 2007, 06:45 PM
Well that happens with PLCAR when you snort it... :D

Good God...you have exploited my ultra-secret delivery system...snorted in lines. Well, FYI...I have a patent-pending - paid my $200 and everything kind sirs, so avoid thoughts of stealing it ya here?

That darned nose bleeding side effect I have to work the kinks out of still darn it all to heck.


D_