Stacking Advice for Big and Ripped

[Marauder]

I am a 36 year old male, former powerlifter and not new to the gym. In the last year I have really become serious about size and strenght gains. Just finished two bottles of Legal Gear Methyl 1 and have in the last year experimented with Fizogen on/off cycles, in addition to creatine and regular protein supplements. Now the problem - in six months my body weight has moved from 211 to 235 with nice muscle gains. However, the gains have also included a lot of fat and retention - a lot to carry on a 5'9" frame. I have about a 14 week window of trying to build giant muscle while trimming big fat, ripping up. Not sure of correct combinations/stacks/cycles to maximize muscle gains while dramatically trimming fat. Considering Winni Depot but need advice on additions or other considerations. Help!??

[SNS8778]

A couple of scenarios:

Methyl Deca/Test Stack -
Link:http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN08
- That would be Methyl 1-Test stacked with MOHN XT at a great price.
- This would be a good, inexpensive stack to help make great muscle gains while not adding any fat.

Now, if you want to know what I would consider an ideal situation:
Weeks 1 and 2: Methyl 1-Test (20 mg.) with either MOHN XT or 4-AD XT (3 caps daily)
Weeks 3 and 4: Off Methyl 1-Test (If MOHN is used, come off. If 4-AD XT is used, stay on)
Weeks 5 and 6: Methyl 1-Test (20 mg.) and 4-AD XT (3 caps daily)
Weeks 7-10: Creatine E2 Matrix along with a good thermogenic
Weeks 11-14: MOHN XT (12 mg.), Methyl-1-Dien 4 mg. caps (4 to 8 mg.), and Methyl Intensity (50 mg.) daily; possibly still use a thermogenic during this period.

**** Use proper PCT where necessary.

Diet and training play alot into this. E-mail me if you would like any suggestions on that aspect. I will be glad to help you with it if you would like.

The products that I am referencing are available here are the following links:
Methyl Deca/Test StacK: http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN08
Methyl 1-Test: http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN02
4-AD XT: http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN07
MOHN XT: http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN05
Methyl-1-Dien: http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN04
Methyl Intensity: http://www.discountanabolics.com/page/DA/PROD/SNS/SN09
Creatine E2 Matrix: will be available here at Discount Anabolics soon

[Marauder]

Steve, thanks for the great info. I like the "ideal scenario" you recommended but have three questions: 1) Could I take Methyl 1-Test, MOHN XT and 4-AD XT the first and second week? 2) If combining the three is not an option, which of the two MOHN XT or 4-AD XT is the preferred given my goal to bulk then rip? 3) Can you expand on using "proper PCT where necessary?" I really appreciate your responses. Thanks.

[SNS8778]

Marauder:

Question 1). Yes you could take Methyl 1-Test, MOHN XT, and 4-AD XT together for the first two weeks. I have not personally tried this, but have heard from customers that have. I would say the most common dosage that we have heard about would be 20 mg. of Methyl 1-Test, 12 mgs. of MOHN XT, and 600 mgs. of 4-AD XT. Make sure that you take something for liver support.

Question 2). If you decided not to take all three, then it's tuff to answer which would be a better stack for you, becuase individual responses will differ. If it were me, I would do Methyl 1-Test with 4-AD XT. I would incorporate the MOHN with Methyl-1-Dien and Methyl Intensity later on for a 'leaning and gaining' cycle.

Question 3). Proper PCT means Post Cycle Therapy. Post Cycle Therapy is using the proper supplements to make sure that your body's natural hormone levels are restored to the appropriate amounts. Also, PCT can encompass talking about anti-estrogen products. An example of PCT therapy would include 6-OXO, ZMA, and a good Tribulus product. (Some people would not agree with me on the good tribulus and ZMA, but I am only speaking from what works well for me.)

Hope that helps. If you have any more questions for me, just post them or e-mail me.

[italndiesel]

I can attest that MOHN and Methyl Dien is a good stack. I did it and had some tremendous results. Guys were asking me if I finally made the jump to roids and thats no bull lol.

I also like EQ from VPX as well as their 4HT CYP. That is a nice hardening stack where you can add in some Methyl Dien or a Methyl DHT product as well.