Cardio

[UNCfan1]

When is the best time to perform cardio for cardiovascular health. My goal is to get back into basketball shape without without losing to much LBM. I know I will lose some. I will doing interval training and plyometrics.

[snakemw]

thinking of taking hansbrough's place? lol. i have always heard first thing in the morning or after your workout for fat loss, not sure if it changes if you are mainly doing it for cardio vascular health. when you figure it out let me know. we had a game tonight and after about the first 20 minutes i was dead tired.;)

[UNCfan1]

thinking of taking hansbrough's place? lol. i have always heard first thing in the morning or after your workout for fat loss, not sure if it changes if you are mainly doing it for cardio vascular health. when you figure it out let me know. we had a game tonight and after about the first 20 minutes i was dead tired.;)

LOL funny, I have a bet with a guy I work with. First weekend of May we are going to play. Its been sooooooooo long since I have done cardio much less play hoops.

[Trans_Isomer]

Uh oh you better not let dinoiii see this thread :eek: :D

[snakemw]

Uh oh you better not let dinoiii see this thread :eek: :D

i thought the same thing. ;)

[RisingAgainst]

Been my experience that cardio is best at a certain heart rate for cardiovascular health and a different one for fat loss, but I havent done it in a long time.. I prefer POST workout, the best.

[GunzandBunz]

If your goal is to avoid losing your precious LBM and fat loss is not the concern but more of a cardiovascular conditioning goal is at hand, Any time of the day would be fine given you have adequate intake of of carbohydrates and electrolytes. To my understanding cortisol secretion will increase and your muscles will "shrink" when you dont have an adequate amount of glycogen to maintain your current intensity level. If you intermittently sip on some cytomax or accelerade(gatorade sucks) you should be fine. As far as the plyometrics go, you may want to avoid the carbohydrate intake pre or peri workout as the insulin response would interfere with the proposed anabolic response your attempting to achieve. You want to be faster and more agile right? Well interfering with your muscles ability to adapt could hnder that goal. Take in carbs no earlier than 2 hours before training for plyometrics. For both occasion follow up with your typical postworkout supplement or shake(or both) to maximize replenishment of glycogen stores and muscular recovery.

[UNCfan1]

Thanks for the info guys.

[Wisconsin Home Grown]

I usually do cardio last thing for the day, whether it be after a workout, or by itself. I'm not sure why, but that seems to work best for me. BTW, got any secrects for the traps??

[UNCfan1]

I usually do cardio last thing for the day, whether it be after a workout, or by itself. I'm not sure why, but that seems to work best for me. BTW, got any secrects for the traps??

I get asked that alot, I don't see it.

My routine that really helped alot.

Barbell Shurgs- 4 heavy sets and the 1 light 20 rep set
supersetted
Rev Barbbell Shurgs- 4 heavy and 1 light

Performed on back and shoulder days. Back was done on Monday and shoulders on thursday.

Every other week I would used dumbbells supersetted with front shurgs. But the key was prob doing Rack Deads.

[snakemw]

Those rack deads will do it everytime. ;)

[Wisconsin Home Grown]

"If you don't see it then baby boy you got that cataract" <--- sorry for the Lil' Wayne reference. Ya, dude your traps are sick. I don't wanna change this cardio thread into traps, so I'm gonna post a new one in training, hopefully this discussion can be taken there. BTW, I worked chest/tri's today, then ran for a while. This is the first time I have ran this year (no treadmill....yet), but not the first time doing that workout. It has been seven hours since, and my chest still seems more pumped up than usual. I have no scientific backing for this, it's just what happened.

[Brent]

When is the best time to perform cardio for cardiovascular health. My goal is to get back into basketball shape without without losing to much LBM. I know I will lose some. I will doing interval training and plyometrics.

You are on X2, no worries man. haha :D

[UNCfan1]

"If you don't see it then baby boy you got that cataract" <--- sorry for the Lil' Wayne reference. Ya, dude your traps are sick. I don't wanna change this cardio thread into traps, so I'm gonna post a new one in training, hopefully this discussion can be taken there. BTW, I worked chest/tri's today, then ran for a while. This is the first time I have ran this year (no treadmill....yet), but not the first time doing that workout. It has been seven hours since, and my chest still seems more pumped up than usual. I have no scientific backing for this, it's just what happened.

Its cool I posted in ur thread about traps. Yeah I still see myself as a mix of the skinny high school dude and the fat freshman year dude. I see skinny everywhere but my stomach. Its etched in my mind and I can't shake it.

[UNCfan1]

You are on X2, no worries man. haha :D

I hear ya Brent:D

[Pike]

I hear ya on that skinny fat thing. I got up to 24% body fat for a few months (9% currently) and I swear it was all in my stomach. my arms, chest and shoulders were still semi lean. That was weird though cause I am naturally a rail. Anyways if you haven't done cardio for a while and are just getting back into it I would recommend high intensity interval training atleast to start. HIIT is the best kind of cardio for raising endurance, and if you haven't run in a while, then your endurance may be weak. Also if you are looking to avoid LBM loss I would limit it to 20 min. Cortisol levels shoot through the roof after that. Also like one scoop of whey before is a good idea to avoid muscle loss. And like Gunz said gatorade or some quick carb pre/post is important to keep your glycogen stores from getting too depleted because when that happens, your muscles start metabolizing protein (muscle) into amino acids to be converted into glucose.

Also if you are going to cardiovascular health it doesn't matter when you run. For fat loss - morning is best time on empty stomach (with maybe a scoop of whey right before), post workout is second best time. Basically for fat loss you want low blood sugar PRE cardio.

[UNCfan1]

Appreciate it Pike! Really good info.

[B-natural]

i think the carbs thing isn't the most important thing pre/pwo, they are an essential, but i think you can keep them lower than u think pwo. e-mail dinoiii or snake, as dinoiii designed a carb intake parameter for snake to help him with a recomp. dinoiii does not believe in cardio, and to a point, i don't feel its THAT essential. keep your cal's lower on non-workout days, namely your carbs, if you go lower carbs, be sure to get more protein and healthy fats, also start takin some creatine, not sure if beta-alanine works in the same cycle, but as far as i've read ATP is one of the main concerns during workouts that glycogen helps to create, with dosing creatine, you help combat this. gf is naggin, sry to cut this midthought, i'll reference dinoiii, so he can check this thread when he logs on

[UNCfan1]

B-nat, I wasn't talking about using cardio for re-comp. I believe everyone here knows his stand of cardio.

[B-natural]

damn, whatd i miss then? was it for oncreased endurance, i thought i saw u sayin u wanted to get into bball shape, my bad

[UNCfan1]

damn, whatd i miss then? was it for oncreased endurance, i thought i saw u sayin u wanted to get into bball shape, my bad

I did say I wanted to get into bball shape, but I didn't want it to infer with my mass gains. See when I was in high school I was in incredile shape. Endurance was sky high. My only problem was I could not gain weight. Even after I gain alot muscle and weight a couple of years ago when I did my cardio I would skrink back up. My question was answered and thanks for ur post so now I can bother Dinoiii about setting me up for some recomp:D