Leviathan vs. Redline

[AsianSensation]

With summer coming around soon, I was thinking of getting a diet supplement. I've read a lot of good reviews for both, but which do YOU think is better? Also, are there any "supporting" supplements that will increase the effects from Leviathan and/or Redline?

[JLestar]

A little quick note, Leviathan has a test booster whereas Redline doesn't.

[B-natural]

Redline is extremely potent for me, and if it didn't give me crazy (and uncomfortable) energy, it woulda been the fat burner i was gonna use

[florencej]

Redline is extremely potent for me, and if it didn't give me crazy (and uncomfortable) energy, it woulda been the fat burner i was gonna use

I would have to agree with B-nat. I had just a sample of Redline and the energy was great. The problem tho it was too much energy. I was literally shaking during my workout, and heart rate was unreal.

FLO

[rainman]

i have never taken Redline, but you guys are making it sound like ephedra. i have a fairly large stock of ephedra, but i dont like to take it all the time. so i am just wondering if redline will give the same amount of energy.

ephedra is the only thing that has ever made me shaky during a workout

[solomon1979]

The old redline in the metal bottles was my favorite. Half a botle and you were good to go. Redline is fairly strong, but there's a crash involved, so in that regards, its similar to ephedra. IMO, there's better supplements out there. Leviathan, I enjoyed, because its nicely balanced. So, between the two, Leviathan for me was better, but Redline is stronger. My personal favorite is still Stimulant-X. One cap of Stimulant-X and one of X-Force is a solid stim. I got two sample packets of Gaspari's Cytolean that I'll post a quick-hit review of this weekend. I don't think it comes out for another month, so you guys will get a sneak peak of it.

[B-natural]

stim-x does seem to have good energy potential. the redline is more than ephedra energy, its an actual jittery energy, can be uncomfortable. Leviathan seems to be getting decent reviews, I think its the start of something good, it sounds like it needs more of a boost though

[TheKoos]

ALRI Venom for me hands down!

Start with one cap first thing in the am then two caps first thing in the am.

[solomon1979]

ALRI Venom for me hands down!

Start with one cap first thing in the am then two caps first thing in the am.

You mention this one alot, can you give me a quick break down of its effects. Is it more useful for energy or fat-loss?

[bLacKjAcK]

I think it really depends on what you can handle and what your tolerance is. Redline (as people above have already stated) is verry strong, and gives you tons of energy. Leviathan, in my opinion is a supplement that had a lot more thought go into it. It doesn't give near the energy in comparison, but on the other hand it is very solid. And I had great results with it.

I personally would recommend Leviathan.

[AsianSensation]

So from all these products mentioned, which is the best for fat loss? I dont really need an energy supplement because my purpose of going to the gym is to use the energy lol.

[solomon1979]

So from all these products mentioned, which is the best for fat loss? I dont really need an energy supplement because my purpose of going to the gym is to use the energy lol.

Between the two that you had initial interest, Leviathan. Although, its addition of Tribulus probably would be of little benefit to you, given your age(16).

[TheKoos]

You mention this one alot, can you give me a quick break down of its effects. Is it more useful for energy or fat-loss?

I like it so much because it's great for both. You get a clear focussed energy, appetite control and thermogenic all in one. It's very effective and very long lasting. The only downside for me is when I take two caps even first thing in the morning I may have trouble falling asleep that night. Be careful not to take them in the afternoon.

I have tried every stim out there and will not spend my $$ on anything else.

[AsianSensation]

Between the two that you had initial interest, Leviathan. Although, its addition of Tribulus probably would be of little benefit to you, given your age(16).

There wouldnt be any adverse effects from the tribulus from leviathan, right?

[solomon1979]

There wouldnt be any adverse effects from the tribulus from leviathan, right?

Nope, but your libido should be through the roof anyways. ..............Oh, to be sixteen again:eek: :D :(
JK, at worst you might need a little more bathroom time.

[GunzandBunz]

I would recommend some Leviathan. I am logging this product right now and have been very pleased with it. I f I could go back to the beginning of the cycle I would have included more fatty acids and some green tea extract. Youll get a little more energy from the green tea and the fatty acids help the lypolysis.

[rainman]

So from all these products mentioned, which is the best for fat loss? I dont really need an energy supplement because my purpose of going to the gym is to use the energy lol.


i remember the days when i had lots of extra energy to burn, seems like sooo long ago, lol:D

[AsianSensation]

Alright then, Leviathan it is!

Hoping this product will be as good as everyone says it is :D

[RisingAgainst]

Stack it with some seasamin dude, thats killer.


And for the rest of you!!! Ephedra < Ephedrine hcl AND Ephedra > Redline

And IMO... Redline is great... so in terms of energy be careful what you wish for because sometimes, its just tooo much. Best all time fat burner/energy combo was Ephedrine HCL @ 25mg, stacked with 200mg caffeine, and White willow bark to mimic some asprin... And yes... thats serious weight loss right there.

[NemisisX7]

Definitely stack with sesamin. :D

[AsianSensation]

Which sesamin product should I buy, amount and price wise?

[GunzandBunz]

Scivation makes the best one IMO as far as quantity and quality is concerned. Prices about the same as every one else but more sesamin lignans in thiers. you probably want to pick up about 3 or 4 bottles to really max out your cut but depending on how long your cutting for you could tailor the amount towards that. If you really want to get down right bonkers, you should pick up some CLA too as sesamin and CLA will have a synergistic effect. CLA and sesamin combined could lower the amount of sesamin you would need. Dinoiii posted an articel about fats and oils for cutting and recomended for a 200 pound person 12-14 g of CLA each day with 4 g of EPA+DHA as well as 1500 mg of sesamin 3x/day. Thats a lot but I would trust him. You may notice results with a smaller dosage but expect less results with a lesser dosage respectively.

[AsianSensation]

Scivation makes the best one IMO as far as quantity and quality is concerned. Prices about the same as every one else but more sesamin lignans in thiers. you probably want to pick up about 3 or 4 bottles to really max out your cut but depending on how long your cutting for you could tailor the amount towards that. If you really want to get down right bonkers, you should pick up some CLA too as sesamin and CLA will have a synergistic effect. CLA and sesamin combined could lower the amount of sesamin you would need. Dinoiii posted an articel about fats and oils for cutting and recomended for a 200 pound person 12-14 g of CLA each day with 4 g of EPA+DHA as well as 1500 mg of sesamin 3x/day. Thats a lot but I would trust him. You may notice results with a smaller dosage but expect less results with a lesser dosage respectively.

For dosing, should I use the recommended dosage on Leviathan and increase the dosage after a (couple) week(s) or the same throughout? And during which times of the day should I take the CLA, sesamin, and EPA and DHA.

[GunzandBunz]

Follow the leviathan to the bottle. CLA should be taken in the morning, midday and a couple of grams in the evening with the bulk of it being taken earlier in the day. spread out the EPA+DHA. Sesamin with the CLA.