Superdrol & M1P

[nolekilla26]

Would it make sense to stack both of these supplements?? I saw "somewhere else" that someone was going to do this is I was a little suprised. I was just wondering if this was safe and what gains could be expected from a stack like this.

[pbk]

Did you mean "M1T", and not M1P?? Not sure what M1p is, but I would like to know about stacking SD with M1T.


Edited 5/9/05.....never mind....I know what the M1P is now. Just did not recall at 1st, and thought it might be a mis-print. See my post below.

[wedgylx]

you could possibly use M1T to jumpstart your Sdrol Cycle. I suppose M1P could be used in the same manner, but being as new as it is I'm not certain if it would benefit you or not.

[max von]

you could possibly use M1T to jumpstart your Sdrol Cycle. I suppose M1P could be used in the same manner, but being as new as it is I'm not certain if it would benefit you or not.

As wedg said i think that is a wait and see kinda thing, not that either is bad but need more research on mixing them. I know M1p has a pct built right into it so it would be nice to see if you could use that post cycle

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[TonkaL9]

I would wait too see from M1P results first. But since they are both methylated I would use M1P to front load the SD cycle. Thats it.

[italndiesel]

you could possibly use M1T to jumpstart your Sdrol Cycle. I suppose M1P could be used in the same manner, but being as new as it is I'm not certain if it would benefit you or not.

As wedg said i think that is a wait and see kinda thing, not that either is bad but need more research on mixing them. I know M1p has a pct built right into it so it would be nice to see if you could use that post cycle

max von

i wouldn't stack these two methyls together until you know the toxicity of each and how they mix

[wedgylx]

I know people that have used M1T and Sdrol, and it doesnt get much more toxic than M1T

[italndiesel]

I know people that have used M1T and Sdrol, and it doesnt get much more toxic than M1T

yea, but is that safe?

[TonkaL9]

No its not. It does not get any worse than M1T.

[max von]

I know people that have used M1T and Sdrol, and it doesnt get much more toxic than M1T

yea, but is that safe?

diesel
stay away from that

max von

[pbk]

Gee....everyone is now saying how toxic the M1T, but before the ban, it was the "cat's meow". I knew you needed to follow good pct with it, but now, your statements are somewhat alarming me. Is it so bad that one would just "flush" all that "stock"?? I do not like to waste $$ and product.

[wedgylx]

Gee....everyone is now saying how toxic the M1T, but before the ban, it was the "cat's meow". I knew you needed to follow good pct with it, but now, your statements are somewhat alarming me. Is it so bad that one would just "flush" all that "stock"?? I do not like to waste $$ and product.

I dont think I've ever recommended M1T to anybody, I've always been hesitant and I seem to grow more hesitant every day

[pbk]

Thanks for your input wedg. If any of you guys from Legal Gear, Steve from SNS, and Chris (owner of DA), and anyone else that can shed light, is following this post, I would very much appreciate your input and advice as to my previous question....concerning how toxic is MIT and whether one would be better to "flush" it or use it.??

[wedgylx]

Thanks for your input wedg. If any of you guys from Legal Gear, Steve from SNS, and Chris (owner of DA), and anyone else that can shed light, is following this post, I would very much appreciate your input and advice as to my previous question....concerning how toxic is MIT and whether one would be better to "flush" it or use it.??

if you're going to use it correctly then more likely than not, you'll be totally fine. I just would rather use regular 1-T since I get great gains from it.

[pbk]

Last fall, I did a cycle with MIT of 4 weeks building up to 40 MG a day. That was fairly intense, for an old guy like me. I think it is safe to say that I will not be doing that again. I just hope that I did not really screw up my liver in the process. I took 6 weeks off after that and toward the end of that 6 week PCT, finally added the Milk Thistle and Himalaya Liver Care, after reading how toxic M1T is to the liver. On my M1T cycles before and after that one though, I stuck with the two weeks and 20 mgs. And I always use some liver support during cycle and during PCT these days, on any PH type stack. Also have added a product that contains NAC for help with PCT. I cannot seem to tolerate more than about 150 to 200 mgs of milk thistle per day without getting bad indigestion.

My apologies....did not intentionally hijack this Superdrol & M1P thread. But there does seem to be a consensus concerning protecting the liver.

[wedgylx]

I personally wouldnt run a cycle of 40mg a day.

[pbk]

And I would certainly not ever recommend 40 mg of M1T per day to anyone either. That was just sort of a trial I decided to do, back before the ban, to see how much I felt I could tolerate and how effective it would be. To say the least, I was "rajin". No longer an issue now though....it is banned.....can no longer purchase. Too bad they did not have some of these new, less side effects, products back then. But the new stuff is so expensive compared to all the deals on the old stuff before the ban.

[max von]

Gee....everyone is now saying how toxic the M1T, but before the ban, it was the "cat's meow". I knew you needed to follow good pct with it, but now, your statements are somewhat alarming me. Is it so bad that one would just "flush" all that "stock"?? I do not like to waste $$ and product.

I dont think I've ever recommended M1T to anybody, I've always been hesitant and I seem to grow more hesitant every day

I agree with wedge i have and never will reccomed and methly product to anyone. Yes the results are great but the liver toxicity i do not believe is worth the risk.

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[italndiesel]

Gee....everyone is now saying how toxic the M1T, but before the ban, it was the "cat's meow". I knew you needed to follow good pct with it, but now, your statements are somewhat alarming me. Is it so bad that one would just "flush" all that "stock"?? I do not like to waste $$ and product.

I dont think I've ever recommended M1T to anybody, I've always been hesitant and I seem to grow more hesitant every day

I agree with wedge i have and never will reccomed and methly product to anyone. Yes the results are great but the liver toxicity i do not believe is worth the risk.

max von

agreed - i did methyls and now i am scared off by them because of the research and feedback

[italionstallionl]

i hate to burst everyones bubble, but i am 99.9% sure that superdrol is methylated

[wedgylx]

i hate to burst everyones bubble, but i am 99.9% sure that superdrol is methylated

yes it is. I'm not afraid of all methyls, just M1T specifically

[max von]

Suoerdrol is no where near the same when it comes to methys thats are out there. Superdrol gets its strength from the product not the methlating that is put into it. Superdrol is basiclly a winstrol in the same family and has a very low liver toxicity. When studies where done on people using Superdrol up to 12 week there liver toxicity was far less that that of people who took high doses of asprin for the same amount of time.

I think the M1T scare people cause of the speed at which they work and how short the cycles have to be

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[wedgylx]

methylation only affects gains indirectly. Methylation increases the bioavailability.

I've heard so many horror stories from M1T - people lactating, liver problems etc. I'd rather use Superdrol or M1,4ADD than M1T

[max von]

methylation only affects gains indirectly. Methylation increases the bioavailability.

I've heard so many horror stories from M1T - people lactating, liver problems etc. I'd rather use Superdrol or M1,4ADD than M1T

thanks wedge i was trying to get it our the right way but couldnt. You hit it right on the head

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[italndiesel]

methylation only affects gains indirectly. Methylation increases the bioavailability.

I've heard so many horror stories from M1T - people lactating, liver problems etc. I'd rather use Superdrol or M1,4ADD than M1T

i agree about the horror stories from M1T - made me wary of ever trying it again; any methyl is still somewhat dangerous regardless of the hormone that is methylated