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rosarionyc
May 2nd, 2005, 05:37 PM
Ive been doing research on these two supplements for quite some time now, and i have come to the conclusion that they both do the same thing. Is there something i am missing here? GH, Gaba same thing or different? Please comment. Thanx Lou.

italndiesel
May 2nd, 2005, 06:09 PM
Ive been doing research on these two supplements for quite some time now, and i have come to the conclusion that they both do the same thing. Is there something i am missing here? GH, Gaba same thing or different? Please comment. Thanx Lou.

growth hormone is GH, GABA can raise your GH, i think that is a simple non medical answer to your question (which is what i know lol)

wedgylx
May 3rd, 2005, 09:40 AM
also I've heard better reviews on GABA than on most GH boosters.

dinoiii
May 3rd, 2005, 09:59 AM
Rapid Fire response, so likely not all-inclusive, but there are some notable differences --> For starters...

1st: GH hits a different receptor than GABA of which there are two different GABA receptors we are currently aware of (A and B).

2nd: GABA is like one of the two predominate inhibitory NEUROTRANSMITTERS (not hormone like GH which is neither homologous nor synonomous) alongside glycine.

3rd: They have different potentiation effects - i.e. - GH stimulates the production of IGF-1 to exhibit its effects (provided we keep it on a muscle gain/fat loss spectrum), whereas GABA stimulates second messengers through tyrosine kinase cascade. Different modes of action can be enough to get to the same end point at a greater efficacy than one alone.

4th: Non-bodybuilding benefits (medicine wise vary) which would lead me to believe that bodybuilding effects would likely vary to some degree as well. GABA potentiators are like Benzodiazepines (i.e. - valium) which we have discussed at length in previous threads - again noting its inhibitory property and why GABA potentiators should NOT be used as professed PRE-workout as some would have you believe. GH analogs can be used to combat the effects of conditions like dwarfism - caveat here being they can produce acromegaly or gigantism if used in excess dependent on whether we are talking adults or children respectively.




This is just a start, non-exhaustive list. GABA has better oral efficacy which is what would explain why you would judge it to be "more effective" - take a shot of GH and challenge that argument.