Help! my weight isnt droping. dinoiii maybe?

[MUbodbuilder]

so ya basically my weight isnt droping and iv done everything in reason i know to do. and im not just worried about weight i can tell im not losing the body fat like i was 3 weeks ago. im stuck around 178-180. and im aiming for 162ish by may. heres my typical diet:
meal 1: 8oz chicken, .5 cup oatmeal(dry)
meal 2: 3eggs with 3/4cup egg whites, protein shake
meal 3: 2scoops protein shake, .5 cup oatmeal
meal 4: 8oz beef, 2cups veg
meal 5: 8oz chicken, 2 cups veg
i also usually add about 100g more carbs on wed. and sunday. my cardio is everyday 30-40 min in the morning and 2 times a day on wed, sat, sunday when i dont lift. mostly walking at 4mph for 15-20min with 20min of elliptical or stairmaster.

maybe its time to lower calories, change carb routine, or cardio??
please give me some suggestions

[dalvare1]

All of your carbs come from a cup of oatmeal and some veggies, even on your spiking days, your not getting much. Your metabolism has shut down after several weeks of dieting, its not uncommon. In my opinion you need a refeed/cheat day where you consume a large amount of calories to get the metabolic machine back in top gear.

[MUbodbuilder]

you know thats real good and obvious answer i didnt see...geez i must be low on carbs the way im thinking. and now that i think about it my weight stoped about a week after when i started to lower/take out my sugars.

thanks for the help i think you hit the nail on the head here. im gona go shoping tonight! then tomorrow eat! eat! eat! but im gona try and stay somewhat clean with this.

btw nice lat spread

[dinoiii]

dinoiii's random comments, which may not be so obvious.

(1) You're starving yourself. Are you aiming for recomp? Agree with Dalvare on the "refeed" aka - cheat.

(2) Where the hell are the fats outside of saturates found in meat product and eggs? You like many are actually deficient in fat ingestion!!! Where are the EFA's, etc... Going purely protein (in absence of any other macros) is NOT likely to aid your plight.

(3) Drop down to 6 oz. of meat per sitting where you have a suggested 8 oz. and ADD another meal (6 per day) - increased meal frequency will stimulate hypothalamic functioning.

(4) Consider thyroid stimulating supplements - i.e. - Thyrocuts II -or- Dicana (though you often have to dose this latter one double the recommendation on the label to see results per client review). Oftentimes when you opt for low carbohydrate in particular - you make yourself prone to something called Euthyroid Sick Syndrome, where you are essentially short of conversion to active thyroid hormone.




Regards,
D_

[MUbodbuilder]

yes i agree im going to make the changes today. i realy appreciate your time and looking at this. il let you all know how this works out :)

what other foods do you suggest for the other fats?

[dinoiii]

Fish Oil, CLA for supplements as you may already know.


Nuts, Avocados, NATURAL peanut butter, oils (like olive oil) are all great easy additions - don't forget to adjust for the caloric density here though.



Look forward to your results - whether here or on the AX board.



D_

[dalvare1]

Nice lat spread MU.

haha, our avatars are like the same.

[MUbodbuilder]

alright so i changed the diet and last thursday evening i ate an entire large pizza :) :) :) sence then i can tell iv already made improvments. energy and weights are back up in the gym. i have not weighed myself yet tho. my new diet looks like this:

meal1
8oz chicken,.5cup oatmeal, 2tbs peanut butter
meal2
3whole eggs, 3/4cup egg whites, box of raisens
meal3 postworkout
2scoops whey with 4oz soymilk, .5cup oatmeal
meal4
6oz lean beef, 2cups veggies or 1/4cup rice
meal5
6oz chicken, 2tbs PB, 1-2cups veggies
meal6
3whole eggs, 3/4cup egg whites, 1cup veggies

i know its not a lot more cals but im losing weight already eating this and keeping energy up. feedback or thoughts?

[B-natural]

what weight class are u shootin for? u said in my post u were 160, so were u aimin for 154.25 las time or?

[B-natural]

I'd switch from PB to almonds or have almonds in 1 meal, and why are u eatin raisins, I also stay away from carbs after 5, even after my workout, if i'm really drained, i'll have somethin small for flavor, whatever fruit there is, but its maybe a slice (apple) or piece (strawberry) however I heard about glutamine helpin with glycogen production, don't really remember however i mix 5g pwo with some isolate (higher amounts of bcaa;s). it also looks like a lot of eggs, i'd get some tuna or more chicken, its actually nearly as cheap as tuna when u break it down to equal portions of protein.

1 can tuna = roughly .85-1.10 dependent on quality (the .60 stuff is nasty), roughly 32-35 g protein

chicken is usually around 1.99/lb, so its roughly 5oz's for 32-35g which converts into roughly .65. so its actually cheaper.:D

[MUbodbuilder]

i dont weigh 160 now thats what i weighed the night before last years contest. i weigh about 178 now and i was trying to aim for lightweight again. just like you. not so sure however thats gona happen :/

you bring up some good points. i eat raisens because their good and they dont hurt me lol. a littel fructose before working out is just enough to boost my energy but not enough to keep me from losing fat. atleast thats the way the results have been going. im interested as to what dinoiii thinks.

and ya carbs after 5 should be kept low but its just veggies and i get way to hungry if i dont eat veggies for carbs in the evening. (look at my before diet!) i stay away from tuna, im allergic. eggs are the most well rounded in BCAA's i believe. chicken is just easy to make. thats the best reason i can give for eating the food i do. and next time il buy some almonds.

[B-natural]

so last contest u were 160 a day before the show and still made weight?

[MUbodbuilder]

yep u got it. i quit drinking water about 5pm the night before and very little to none the day of. i was exactly 154

[dinoiii]

I eat raisens because their good and they dont hurt me lol. a littel fructose before working out is just enough to boost my energy but not enough to keep me from losing fat. atleast thats the way the results have been going. im interested as to what dinoiii thinks.

You're interested in what I think about fructose or your entire diet???

As for all types of sugar, much is the same, they can be good if used appropriately but also very deleterious to your plight if not. How is the proximity of the raisins to the actual workout (timing - "x" min/hours pre-workout?)?

While I could theoretically get VERY technical about fructose's inclusion, I will spare you this time...but I maintain in competition or otherwise, carbs are expendable...

As I have said in the past, if you go the remainder of your life and NEVER ingest another carbohydrate, you'll be perfectly fine...in your competition case...you will come off rather flat the day of your comp though. I'd be curious how you are planning on modulating your diet as your competition approaches. What are your plans as you get closer, and what is it you do to avoid peaking too soon/late?


D_

[MUbodbuilder]

i was wondering what you thought about my diet as a whole realy. the box of raisens only has 30g of carbs and i have it about 1.5hrs before working out.

i realy have no plan as to peeking other than past contest history. i know it took me about 4months to peek last spring and i was in worse shape to start and smaller then. im hopeing to peek around the end of april. if by peeking you mean the maximal amount of fat lost before losing too much muscle.

i usually lower my carbs first as my weight drops. protein stays the same pretty much. but i realy am not gona change my diet again unless i have to. idk why i went on the 5 meal a day thing a few weeks back but never again. i might extend the time between carb load days or add cardio closer to the show. if i am peeking too soon then i will add some carbs or shorten the time between loads.
im aiming for 100-120g carbs a day, 230-240g protein day, and 90g fat.

again i thank you for spending the time you have in helping me. its hard for me to see my mistakes.

[B-natural]

no carbs the rest of his life? alright, theres reason, whens this book comin out, i think we're all get housered here, i want answers, sry about the Houser thing, anyways, we need a book update thread D, I am very interested in that info, esp. diet & exercise