Est Ph Q

[SwollOnIron]

Who would like to see a "pure" version of EST PH's without the extras (NO, Milk thistle, Yohimbine etc)? I would love it if they sold their M1P, M1AD, SD, etc as stand alone compounds as they do with their PP, Prop, and HD.

Instead of just sending an IM to Solomon or KT, I thought I would post this here to see how much public demand there was for this.

I for one would purchase more of their stuff as a result of them "trimming" the product down (esp if they offered 90caps on some things). This is not to bust on anyone - far from the contrary, I am a potential consumer letting the supplier know what I would like. I am sure there was a time when the inclusions added to the value of the product, but for me, I like my PH's pure bc it gives me more control over things - not to mention, there are times I do not want a certain ingredient with my PH.

So, if enough people chime in maybe EST will roll out a some revamped/trimmed products.

Also, want to congratulate them on getting Propadrol to the out. Keep pushing new stuff!!!

[RisingAgainst]

I second this, I would like to see the Methyl-Vol in particular without the vaso-plex and liver-dex.

[nilla]

I can tell you when i first got into "PH's" i was shopping around and when it came to deciding on which to go with i stayed clear of EST because i was unfimliar with the combo of additives in them.
I was looking for strict ingredients.
To me it seemed like a product that was trying to sell you on other things in it to hype it up.
Dont get me wrong,this was when i knew little.
So yes,i do now know and trust there products to be good.

[SwollOnIron]

I can tell you when i first got into "PH's" i was shopping around and when it came to deciding on which to go with i stayed clear of EST because i was unfimliar with the combo of additives in them.

Me too - I stayed clear bc I didn't want the additives.

[solomon1979]

Honestly,alot of the earlier incarnations are/were similar to LG's line and formulas. As newer products are released, they are being released with just the compound and not the extra's. I doubt the original line-up will change, but if you guys want to make some noise, I'm sure your voice will get heard;) .

[B-natural]

Keep this thread clean fellas, Solomon's my boy

[solomon1979]

Keep this thread clean fellas, Solomon's my boy

Thanks B-nat,
Its cool:cool: - no harm, no foul. IMO, it would be cheaper to maunfacture these products without the additives. I'll point Keith to this thread whenever he's not so busy. I just think that they're may have been an initial involvement with LG before the launch of the EST hormonal line. It might explain the ingredients, cycle recommendations, and quantities' of the bottles.

[NemisisX7]

I actually like the extras. Its not like those 10 pills would make that big of a difference. Though it would be cool to see the prods. without extras for those like SOI and Nilla.

[nilla]

Keep this thread clean fellas, Solomon's my boy

This is in no way bashing EST!
I believe peeps honest opinons here will be helpful if anything.
I was just stating that to a newb these products seem foreign.

As i said when i first started.
I was looking for what everyone else was talking bout,not these added type products so i avoided them.
Now that i know more i would definetly go with these products.

[nateedogg27]

I personally think its a good idea for them to put the extra's in it. There's so many idiots out there who are under age and don't have a clue what their doing. At least this gives them a little help for thier liver & etc.

[solomon1979]

BTW, I didn't feel like there was ever any negative intentions behind anything said in this thread. The Arnold Classic is coming up the weekend after next and EST has a few releases going on, so Keith is very busy with everything. After the Arnold, I'll fill him in on what you guys feel would be best, since quite a few things are being reformulated and released anyways. This thread was the "EXACT" way to go about expressing your feelings about EST products. PM's are great if you have want advice or have questions, but I really don't like the 10 or so I get a week telling me that EST is a shill company for IDS or that our products don't work. SOI did it right, and I appreciate that.

[SwollOnIron]

Thanks Solomon - glad you took the thread in the spirit intended.

[Imwithstupid]

EST is innovation at its best, but i too would like to see m1p with out the NO.

[Keith Thomas]

All,

Keep the feedback coming, I invite the constructive criticism. EST is here to give our customers what they want.... To
be honest, I had heard both sides...Some people like the liver dex/ vasoplex.....Added liver help, added nitic oxide (helps w/pumps, nutrient delivery, even assists with keeping blood pressure moderate...

In any event, Please share your thoughts -- as I will take them into consideration.

Thanx-
Keith Thomas, Ceo
EST

[RisingAgainst]

All,

Keep the feedback coming, I invite the constructive criticism. EST is here to give our customers what they want.... To
be honest, I had heard both sides...Some people like the liver dex/ vasoplex.....Added liver help, added nitic oxide (helps w/pumps, nutrient delivery, even assists with keeping blood pressure moderate...

In any event, Please share your thoughts -- as I will take them into consideration.

Thanx-
Keith Thomas, Ceo
EST

This is just a thought here, but maybe if you were to create both, kinda how prew/o drinks have flavors, have a check box for the additives? I understand that would be pricy not knowing who would buy what and at what quantity, (just a whim.) :D