Cycles I would like to see done.

[Voodoo]

Some of you have been asking me what I want to see done (or am planning to do) So I thought I would write up a list. Feel free to add to this list.

Oh and for the various idiots who might want to try this first time out with a ph, NO! BAD! *swats with a newspaper* Any of the combos listed here on are suggestions and should be properly researched as well as supporting supplements to follow suit. As always, talk to your doctor.

M1,4ADD - 120mg+ Daily
I think it has potential to be a pretty good stack, the heavy sides with Methandrostenolone (dianabol) come at doses higher than 30mg a day, not to worry young squire Ive looked into it. At a dose of 150mg you're at 1050mg a week, bloodstream equivalent being right around 160mg break that down by 7 days and you're at 22.5mg daily. The only downside I see is the Michelin man water retention, which of course would go away..

Ecdysterone
I just wanna see what it does to someone with nothing else pumping through their veins in a real world scenario. Someone do a "cycle" of it.

Trenadrol and Methyl-Vol
Simultaneously. Candidates would be people who are clinically insane with low blood pressure and lots of previous experience with heavy ph's. I'm doing it the whole way through next time.:D

Propadrol/Phera
Movie announcer voice: Will the propadrol's anti estrogenic powers be able to ward of PheraVol's intense wetness? Coming Soon..

Hemaguno
Cause the name sounds funny, and its new, and I wanna see what happens. Apparently its the god of all ph's based on the advertising lol. I want to see a real would 5'100-6'2'' guy show some results/sides and let us know whats really going on.

AMS's 1-Androsterone and 4-AD
Because DA has them listed as Ph's and I consider them anti estrogen like 6OXO.

Extreme Lean - Winztrol/Bold/Trenadrol/Revolt
No methyls, so a 6 week if you wanted - but owie owie owie. Good luck staying hydrated (the reason I tossed the bold in there, hopefully it would lube the joints a little)

Finigenx Magnum
Cause Trenadrol was an absolute blast. So why not take the spoonful of sugar version?

[Sonny]

M1,4ADD - 120mg+ Daily
I think it has potential to be a pretty good stack, the heavy sides with Methandrostenolone (dianabol) come at doses higher than 30mg a day, not to worry young squire Ive looked into it. At a dose of 150mg you're at 1050mg a week, bloodstream equivalent being right around 160mg break that down by 7 days and you're at 22.5mg daily. The only downside I see is the Michelin man water retention, which of course would go away..


I have been considering this as of late as a next cycle. Doing more research on dose and weights/experience of past people. With water can come strength so this is why. Besides, Michelin man is not so bad. He looks tougher than Stay Puff.

[hpro]

I'm going to be doing Tren + Methyl-Vol and Propadrol + PPlex (the original not a clone).

I'll be doing one in about 2-3 months, which one would you like to see more?

[NightTrain]

voodoo how about.... methyl-drol XT by SNS and trenadrol? what do you think these two would do..... i mean run a cycle something like this....

MD @ 20/20/20/20 TD@ 1 capED first 2 weeks, then 2 caps ed last 2 weeks?

do you think it would kill me or could i go TD @ 2cap ED all 4 weeks?

[RisingAgainst]

I have no sides whatsoever besides some oily shoulders and very rare but occasional temper issues with tren. I add in the Methyl-vol at week 2, so as far as them together I will letcha know.

[UNCfan1]

One I would like to see and do would be Hemadrol/Trenadrol. Seems great a strength and recomp.

[RisingAgainst]

I opted to pass on that one, although it was my original plan. I think trenadrol is less of a cutting agent than people make it out to be.

[UNCfan1]

I opted to pass on that one, although it was my original plan. I think trenadrol is less of a cutting agent than people make it out to be.

I thought the same, but after reading Voodoo's thread it changed my mind. I still want to try it though. What about this:

Hemadrol
Propadrol
Trenadrol

[RisingAgainst]

that does look interesting. So far the only reason I'm slimming up at all is because I have dramatically increased the intesity of my workouts. I find tren to be excellent for strength and vasuclarity though. I like the propadrol/trenadrol idea, would be fairly safe, side-wise as well :) adding in hemadrol could be a helluva ride.

[UNCfan1]

that does look interesting. So far the only reason I'm slimming up at all is because I have dramatically increased the intesity of my workouts. I find tren to be excellent for strength and vasuclarity though. I like the propadrol/trenadrol idea, would be fairly safe, side-wise as well :) adding in hemadrol could be a helluva ride.

How would u run it?

Hemadrol- 50mg
Propadrol- 30-60mg
Tren- ?

[RisingAgainst]

I would do it something like this:

Trenadrol @ 60mg days 1-30
Hemadrol @ 50mg days 14-44
Propadrol @ 60mg days 31-60

[UNCfan1]

I would do it something like this:

Trenadrol @ 60mg days 1-30
Hemadrol @ 50mg days 14-44
Propadrol @ 60mg days 31-60

Thanks RA! I think I will do this a month after my BAM.

[RisingAgainst]

Aw dude that would be a sweet run, Any chance of a log?? (possibilities on that one are based on your goals to; the one I listed would probably be best for some bulk and some strength, whereas switching the trenadrol and propadrol would probably yield more strength and lean body mass)

[UNCfan1]

Aw dude that would be a sweet run, Any chance of a log?? (possibilities on that one are based on your goals to; the one I listed would probably be best for some bulk and some strength, whereas switching the trenadrol and propadrol would probably yield more strength and lean body mass)

Yeah I would log it. Ur saying switching the order could change the results? I would prob keep it the same as u laid out so I could get more strength and bulk.

[RisingAgainst]

You could probably run them both at the same time at 60mg, Today is my first day at 90mg on the tren, Voodoo mentioned some high bp, I will keep things updated as far as that goes. Its possible you could start and end with the tren on a 6 week cycle with the propadrol in between- something like:

Trenadrol @60mgs days 1-45
Propadrol @60mgs days 7-37

I would probably just run them both at the same time though,

Trenadrol @60mgs 1-30
Propadrol @60mgs 1-30

[JrBirdMan]

I'm on phera/prop. about half way through cycle.

[UNCfan1]

You could probably run them both at the same time at 60mg, Today is my first day at 90mg on the tren, Voodoo mentioned some high bp, I will keep things updated as far as that goes. Its possible you could start and end with the tren on a 6 week cycle with the propadrol in between- something like:

Trenadrol @60mgs days 1-45
Propadrol @60mgs days 7-37

I would probably just run them both at the same time though,

Trenadrol @60mgs 1-30
Propadrol @60mgs 1-30

Sweet thanks man.

[RisingAgainst]

Anytime :) I wanted to try that one this time actually, but I splurged on 4 bottles of bold :( .

[UNCfan1]

Anytime :) I wanted to try that one this time actually, but I splurged on 4 bottles of bold :( .

I thought about that too, but I already have the hemadrol and Propadrol. Plus all of the supporting supplements I need I said the hell with that lol. But I will do a log on it for sure.

[East1600plus]

has any1 done Tenaplex/ecdyplex stack? DA sells them together as a stack has any1 tried it?...any good mass gains? with maybe some leaning out factors?

[RisingAgainst]

You're gonna run then tren/hema/prop stack then?? I think that would be a ridiculously great stack... At least on paper

[RisingAgainst]

has any1 done Tenaplex/ecdyplex stack? DA sells them together as a stack has any1 tried it?...any good mass gains? with maybe some leaning out factors?

I havent seen anything on it yet. Companies usually make decent stacks though.

[UNCfan1]

You're gonna run then tren/hema/prop stack then?? I think that would be a ridiculously great stack... At least on paper

Yes, I have wanted to do something crazy, not sure if its really crazy lol.

[East1600plus]

I havent seen anything on it yet. Companies usually make decent stacks though.

o really thats a shame...i might have to try it

[RisingAgainst]

Its not totally nuts like.. "voodoo crazy" (hahah) but thats gonna yield some crazy results.

[East1600plus]

Its not totally nuts like.. "voodoo crazy" (hahah) but thats gonna yield some crazy results.

ya i've seen some of his logs...wtf lol especially that Bold log of his like...wow so much money

[RisingAgainst]

At least his cycles are planned out well. He knows his limits very well. (hence the screams and shouts at night) lol

[solomon1979]

Here's few of my current cycle wishes that would be good for any forum member(+21) to start a log of-

iForce Bold 600mg 40 days
Hemaguno 37.5mg ed 40 days

EST Methyl XT
Kilosorts Trenadrol
(dosages and lengths would vary)

M1,4ADD 90-120mg ED 30 days
Propadrol 60mg ED 30 days

iForce Bold 400-600mg ed 40 days
EST Phera-Vol 40 days 15mg 5 days 30mg 35 days
EST Propadrol 60mg last 30 days

[NemisisX7]

If only I needed another cycle....... All these stacks look sooooo good. Tren+Methyl-vol is still def. a monster stack I think.

[solomon1979]

I think this Spring is gonna be a little nuts around this board as far as cycles go:eek: . New members are probably going to think these cycles are normal. If and when anyone logs any of these cycles, please put a disclaimer warning of the potential dangers of immediately running something like that without any previous experience. You guys are nuts, but I like you the way you think;) .

[Voodoo]

Here's few of my current cycle wishes that would be good for any forum member(+21) to start a log of-

iForce Bold 600mg 40 days
Hemaguno 37.5mg ed 40 days

EST Methyl XT
Kilosorts Trenadrol
(dosages and lengths would vary)

M1,4ADD 90-120mg ED 30 days
Propadrol 60mg ED 30 days

iForce Bold 400-600mg ed 40 days
EST Phera-Vol 40 days 15mg 5 days 30mg 35 days
EST Propadrol 60mg last 30 days

Dude Solomon whats with you and the bold man? I frankly think its a tad on the weak side. Yes I know thats the pot calling the kettle black cause I'm on it right now and was last cycle....
oh yes and for the love of god people if you decide to start running stacks put disclaimers in your sigs or something, cause were gonna have a lot of newbs wanting to run SD+Tren+Halo or something first time out for 20 weeks.... and its gonna get annoying quick.

[solomon1979]

Dude Solomon whats with you and the bold man? I frankly think its a tad on the weak side. Yes I know thats the pot calling the kettle black cause I'm on it right now and was last cycle....
oh yes and for the love of god people if you decide to start running stacks put disclaimers in your sigs or something, cause were gonna have a lot of newbs wanting to run SD+Tren+Halo or something first time out for 20 weeks.... and its gonna get annoying quick.

ROFL, this seems to be what most people currently have:D . IMO, I'd probably run it a bit longer and I honestly think its just an addition to bring out more positive benefits from the other products that would be used in conjunction with them. For the record;) , I don't think of Bold as being the main product being used in any of the cycles that I mentioned it being used with. More of like a serving of mashed potatoes(really expensive ones)along side a nice steak.

[RisingAgainst]

Here's few of my current cycle wishes that would be good for any forum member(+21) to start a log of-

iForce Bold 600mg 40 days
Hemaguno 37.5mg ed 40 days

EST Methyl XT
Kilosorts Trenadrol
(dosages and lengths would vary)

M1,4ADD 90-120mg ED 30 days
Propadrol 60mg ED 30 days

iForce Bold 400-600mg ed 40 days
EST Phera-Vol 40 days 15mg 5 days 30mg 35 days
EST Propadrol 60mg last 30 days

Sold, I will give this one a try, not any time VERY soon... looking at like September/Octoberish... but ya... I like the idea on that one.

[Voodoo]

like i said, i just wanna see someone torture their liver and push 150mg of m1,4add a day.

[Sonny]

like i said, i just wanna see someone torture their liver and push 150mg of m1,4add a day.

I have seen logs where the dose is even higher. ??? Many consider 120mg a starting point. Of course these are from seasoned lifters.

I am planning something similar with liver pannel test mid cycle. More data is being collected first.

[Voodoo]

I have seen logs where the dose is even higher. ??? Many consider 120mg a starting point. Of course these are from seasoned lifters.

I am planning something similar with liver pannel test mid cycle. More data is being collected first.

really?? thats gotta be murder on the organs though to do that much orally. I was suggesting 150 as a "this probably isnt a good idea, but hell you only live once stack."

hell i had great results at 60mg a day lol.

[Sonny]

really?? thats gotta be murder on the organs though to do that much orally. I was suggesting 150 as a "this probably isnt a good idea, but hell you only live once stack."

hell i had great results at 60mg a day lol.

Yes, I agree with that, it could pose problems. I was not suggesting anything "foolish" for everyone. We all react different and this is for discussion purposes. Except for SD, I found dosage recommendations for most things are low for me personally to get additional benefits to my training, which is why I am taking it anyways, especially for non-methyls.

[Voodoo]

sonny check pm's

[superdude1380]

Well Voodoo I would have to say that for my next leaning out and getting ripped phase that I wanted to do, I would like to use you Trenadrol, winztrol, revolt, combination. I was going to maybe add something else in there to lubricate the joints other than Bold....how about some flax seed oil...or Glucosomine Chondrotin....and would this cyle help drop some serious bf%...in my cut phase I want to put on muscle yet get down to 4to 6% bodyfat....I have about 9% right now... what do you think, or I guess this is for anyone to answer.

[Voodoo]

Well Voodoo I would have to say that for my next leaning out and getting ripped phase that I wanted to do, I would like to use you Trenadrol, winztrol, revolt, combination. I was going to maybe add something else in there to lubricate the joints other than Bold....how about some flax seed oil...or Glucosomine Chondrotin....and would this cyle help drop some serious bf%...in my cut phase I want to put on muscle yet get down to 4to 6% bodyfat....I have about 9% right now... what do you think, or I guess this is for anyone to answer.

dude if you have 9% thats what I say I have when I get "fat" trust me when I say thats going to lean you down so quick itll make your head explode. Try the tren solo first man, in 3 weeks I was from 9% to about 5 maybe less. Friggin ridiculous.

[superdude1380]

So what was your diet and everything...or did you diet very much....I know it was clean but I am talking about the calorie intake what was that like?

[Voodoo]

So what was your diet and everything...or did you diet very much....I know it was clean but I am talking about the calorie intake what was that like?

lol me diet? noooo way. I eat everything in sight moving or not. basically clean calories tons of protein and a lot of carbs. I was attempting to use this as a bulk, which it actually did well, but you just... you lean up so damn quick on the stuff.

[superdude1380]

How were your strength gains, and size gains that you recorded? I am just so curious...cuz this stack sounds amazing..

[Voodoo]

strength was through the roof on trenadrol, superdrol Im actually not that impressed with lol. At first I thought the strength was placebo, I dont wanna get you too fired up to where ya hurt yourself from pushing to hard but frankly, you have the strength of god.
Example bench was about 240max, now bench is about 315-320 max. Curls were struggling for 5X6 reps on 40lb dumbbells, now I do 45 or 50lb dbs. Hack squats were at about 400lbs, then i exceeded the machine, went to a leg press machine, been pushing 700lbs on the regular with it. Basically everything went up 10-25%
size gains i just posted actually here they are again

240lbs! 19lb gain so far..

My physical measurements (which I just had to take heh) have gone up...

Begin / 5 weeks later - Now / Change
Chest: 46 / 49.5 / 3.5 inches
Shoulders: 51.5 / 53.5 / 2 inches
Arms: 16.5 / 17.5 / 1 inch
Thighs: 24 / 27 / 3 inches
Calves: 16 / 16.5 / .5 inch
Neck: 17 / 17.5 / .5 inch
Forearms: 12 / 13.5 / 1.5 inches

[NightTrain]

strength was through the roof on trenadrol, superdrol Im actually not that impressed with lol. At first I thought the strength was placebo, I dont wanna get you too fired up to where ya hurt yourself from pushing to hard but frankly, you have the strength of god.
Example bench was about 240max, now bench is about 315-320 max. Curls were struggling for 5X6 reps on 40lb dumbbells, now I do 45 or 50lb dbs. Hack squats were at about 400lbs, then i exceeded the machine, went to a leg press machine, been pushing 700lbs on the regular with it. Basically everything went up 10-25%
size gains i just posted actually here they are again

240lbs! 19lb gain so far..

My physical measurements (which I just had to take heh) have gone up...

Begin / 5 weeks later - Now / Change
Chest: 46 / 49.5 / 3.5 inches
Shoulders: 51.5 / 53.5 / 2 inches
Arms: 16.5 / 17.5 / 1 inch
Thighs: 24 / 27 / 3 inches
Calves: 16 / 16.5 / .5 inch
Neck: 17 / 17.5 / .5 inch
Forearms: 12 / 13.5 / 1.5 inches

jesus, voodoo thats from your cycle you are on now? ima have to look into this.....hummph (gears meshing in head...... evil laughter....)

[Sonny]

strength was through the roof on trenadrol, superdrol Im actually not that impressed with lol. At first I thought the strength was placebo, I dont wanna get you too fired up to where ya hurt yourself from pushing to hard but frankly, you have the strength of god.
Example bench was about 240max, now bench is about 315-320 max. Curls were struggling for 5X6 reps on 40lb dumbbells, now I do 45 or 50lb dbs. Hack squats were at about 400lbs, then i exceeded the machine, went to a leg press machine, been pushing 700lbs on the regular with it. Basically everything went up 10-25%
size gains i just posted actually here they are again

240lbs! 19lb gain so far..

My physical measurements (which I just had to take heh) have gone up...

Begin / 5 weeks later - Now / Change
Chest: 46 / 49.5 / 3.5 inches
Shoulders: 51.5 / 53.5 / 2 inches
Arms: 16.5 / 17.5 / 1 inch
Thighs: 24 / 27 / 3 inches
Calves: 16 / 16.5 / .5 inch
Neck: 17 / 17.5 / .5 inch
Forearms: 12 / 13.5 / 1.5 inches

WOW!

You sure those are not misprints? (LOL) I would kill for 3 inches on my thighs.

[Voodoo]

WOW!

You sure those are not misprints? (LOL) I would kill for 3 inches on my thighs.

no im legit. i measured before hand because i was skeptical my gains would be on the 20lbs level like they were last time. of course i was proven wrong and my body seems to have jumped at the chance to grow yet again. so yeah, those measurements are totally truthful.

lets just say Im loving the (close to) 18inch arms thing. though at my size to be "big" in the arms Im sure I would have to be rocking 20inch arms.

[superdude1380]

no im legit. i measured before hand because i was skeptical my gains would be on the 20lbs level like they were last time. of course i was proven wrong and my body seems to have jumped at the chance to grow yet again. so yeah, those measurements are totally truthful.

lets just say Im loving the (close to) 18inch arms thing. though at my size to be "big" in the arms Im sure I would have to be rocking 20inch arms.

Yeah that's what my arms are at right now...I want to have like my buddies.. he has 22 inch arms...he is fricken enormous...I guess the weight that I want to get to is about 265, right now I am at a rough 233, so i have a ways to got...for my frame I am genetically heavy...prolly like yours, you look pretty tall. Well I think that I am going try out that trenadrol stack, I will put up a log if anyone wants to see how is goes...I don't have all this techinical stuff to measure...but I will try and do my best with what I have to make a log.

[NightTrain]

goodluck superdude...... as soon as im done with my safe time off period im gona hit a stack like this real hard, maybe the hulk stack that ole VOOdoo is doing.....

[Garzanamos]

I was think for my next cycle (coming up in about month and 1/2) I'd try Methyl XT possibly stacked with either Propadrol or Trenaplex. I just haven't found any logs on here for Methly XT. If anyone has tried just a solo run or a stack with Methyl XT, let me know i'm curious to see what gains people have gotten from it. Solomon your opinion would be really helpful here :cool: :cool: Thanks in advance

[RisingAgainst]

I was think for my next cycle (coming up in about month and 1/2) I'd try Methyl XT possibly stacked with either Propadrol or Trenaplex. I just haven't found any logs on here for Methly XT. If anyone has tried just a solo run or a stack with Methyl XT, let me know i'm curious to see what gains people have gotten from it. Solomon your opinion would be really helpful here :cool: :cool: Thanks in advance

I have done the ph that methyl xt is based on, it was a very good cycle, (probably because it was my first) but I gained 12 solid (lean) pounds, and the strength gains put tren to shame. (so far anyways) I had a really 'sick-to-my-stomach' feeling on cycle though, but that was my only side.

[GunzandBunz]

I too tried a methyl XT compund in the form of methy 1-alpha. I had a good 18 pounds gained during the cycle however towards the end of the cycle, I got real bad lethargy and loss of appetite. Of those 18 pounds gained by the middle of the cycle, I ended up keeping 15 by the end. I did like the compound and plan on running it again at some point in the future. Just be sure to have a solid PCT set up.

[RisingAgainst]

Just as a thought, I read someones log on finigenx magnum a while back... so that one has been done.

[solomon1979]

I was think for my next cycle (coming up in about month and 1/2) I'd try Methyl XT possibly stacked with either Propadrol or Trenaplex. I just haven't found any logs on here for Methly XT. If anyone has tried just a solo run or a stack with Methyl XT, let me know i'm curious to see what gains people have gotten from it. Solomon your opinion would be really helpful here :cool: :cool: Thanks in advance

There aren't any logs for Methyl XT around here. I'd be willing to sponsor one myself(non-EST related), just to have the compound tested and used by another forum member for a reference point. IMO, Trenadrol would be an awesome stack with this.

[RisingAgainst]

There aren't any logs for Methyl XT around here. I'd be willing to sponsor one myself(non-EST related), just to have the compound tested and used by another forum member for a reference point. IMO, Trenadrol would be an awesome stack with this.
I'm so against this.. Now that I look back I did have lethargy with the m1a as welll... and I have had a helluva time so far with tren... I dont think I would be able to hang with both at a decent doseage. I think a good addition to m1a would be something like Winztrol. I say this because I did have a small amount of bloat for the first few days due to my appetite increase. I still have my log somewhere, I havent tried to find it yet, If I come across it I can post it for everyone.

[solomon1979]

Methyl XT has the added yohimbine in it to help with letheargy, but I know what you mean. Lethargy from a PH is something that is rough. BTW, I don't think this would be as bad as Methyl-Vol/Trenadrol, like so many are currently recommending.

[RisingAgainst]

Thats actually what I'm going to be running, But I made the decision to run the tren for 3 weeks alone before I add the methyl-vol. (several reasons behind this, the main one being that I dont want to EFF myself)
and I want to give tren a fair judgement. I actually planned on running methyl-xt as a solo next year sometime. There's a chance I might have some bold to stack it with to... LOL

[solomon1979]

Thats actually what I'm going to be running, But I made the decision to run the tren for 3 weeks alone before I add the methyl-vol. (several reasons behind this, the main one being that I dont want to EFF myself)
and I want to give tren a fair judgement. I actually planned on running methyl-xt as a solo next year sometime. There's a chance I might have some bold to stack it with to... LOL

;) That should be a worthwhile stack.

[stevenukes]

One I would like to see and do would be Hemadrol/Trenadrol. Seems great a strength and recomp.
I know this is a ways off but I will be running this cycle in april and I will run a log and try to post pics evry week depending on computer availibility on my ship.

[VolPower]

i plan on running this one unless it gets too much liver-hugger feedback, lol --->
http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7352

[Jimbo63]

I have run several cycles of methylxt and a stack of that and pp. I am wanting to try a methylxt stack with a non methyl now. I have a bunch of trenaplex and couple bottles of finigenx magnum. I weigh almost 280lbs and wanting to do some kind of cutting stack if possible. Would running the methylxt (with its dry gains) with the trenaplex/fingenx magnum be decent??? Also need to know what kind of dosages to use for my weight with the trenaplex and fingenx magnum if possible. I hope somebody takes the time to answer my post, would be greatly appreciated. Seems that nobody every answers my posts for some reason, lol. Maybe this will be a first for me.....thanx all. Jimbo

[RisingAgainst]

You might try Methyl XT with Trenaplex, that could be nice. Keep both at 2ED to start. Methyl XT gave me wet gains btw.

[hpro]

Would Trenadrol added to Hemadrol + Propadrol be to much? I'm going w/ a yes, but I want to see what the intelligient people say. :)

[Voodoo]

Would Trenadrol added to Hemadrol + Propadrol be to much? I'm going w/ a yes, but I want to see what the intelligient people say. :)

Technically no, but I grow wary of tossing halodrol clones and Trenadrol together. besides those are two very dry phs and tossing trenadrol is might really play hell with joints. if you do decide to do it, make sure you have glucosomine at the least for joint support.

[superdude1380]

Well, I just thought I would post that I am starting the ultimate lean cycle on Monday, if anyone would like for me to post a log of diet, results, and so on.... just let me know...if there isn't any interest then I won't bother...
The stack again is
Trenadrol
Revolt
Winztrol