BOLD conversion ?

[Sonny]

I did a search and I thought I read it on DA, but could be wrong. Maybe it was in another thread not originally started about BOLD....???

I was looking for the conversion rate of BOLD to determine dosage.


Any help or other comments are appreciated.

[JrBirdMan]

I'm not sure of the exact conversion, the only help I can offer is PM Voodoo, I think he's ran bold twice. He'd be the one I'd turn to for help.

[jw25558]

I was told that a dione will only convert at 5-6% but am not exactly sure. It is typical of a diol to convert at 14-16%. For the bold, I've heard it both ways. Looking forward to hearing the true conversion rate though!

[Sonny]

I'm not sure of the exact conversion, the only help I can offer is PM Voodoo, I think he's ran bold twice. He'd be the one I'd turn to for help.

I may do that.

Log is looking good JBM!

[Sonny]

I was told that a dione will only convert at 5-6% but am not exactly sure. It is typical of a diol to convert at 14-16%. For the bold, I've heard it both ways. Looking forward to hearing the true conversion rate though!

Appreciate that feedback. I will be scanning other places as well. If I find out, will let you know.

[Voodoo]

standard ingestion rates are 15% of whatever you're taking. I forgot where I learned that so in a Ron Burgundy voice I'm just going to say "its science"

assuming that rule is correct - 600mg is recommended dose, which would be a total consumption of 4200mg(4.2g) at the end of the week.

4200mg X .15 = 630mg floating around in your bloodstream.

Taken from Wikipedia on Boldenone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boldenone)

Use in doping

The activity of boldenone is mainly anabolic, with a low androgenic potency. It has a very long half-life, with minimal blood levels present up to 8 weeks after discontinued use.
Boldenone will increase nitrogen retention, protein synthesis, increases appetite and stimulates the release of erythropoietin in the kidneys. The drug is commonly used in doping within bodybuilding, even though this use is illegal. If intended to assist in bodybuilding, the drug is taken as part of a steroid stack of other anabolic steroids, usually with a potent androgen like testosterone as the 'base' of the stack.
Common bodybuilding doses range between 200 mg to 400 mg/week but could be as high as 800 mg/week.
Boldenone has a low rate of aromatization (about 50% of Testosterone), which means it does not convert to estrogen easily and does not cause very much water retention. Many Bodybuilders will find that it is a good replacement drug for Nandrolone.
Boldenone is among the substances banned by Major League Baseball, as well as most other major athletic organizations. As of November 2005, Matt Lawton is the only baseball player known to have tested positive for it.
It is a poor drug of choice for any athlete who will be subject to a blood test due to its long metabolic half-life. Trace amounts of the drug can easily be detected for months after discontinued use.


Even at 5% absorption;
4200mg X .05 = 210mg in the bloodstream.

Though I think thats low, Granted I went as high as 1000mg a day for a week which would be 7000mg - but the sides were ridiculous, acne all over the place no increase in gains not noticeable effect other than added oil, aggression, appetite, and anger.

7000mg X .15 = 1050mg bloodstream
7000mg X .05 = 350mg bloodstream

All told I would probably guess that 10-15% is dead on, cause I usually require a higher dose of ph's to get the effects of others based on my size.

However in my hulk stack I'm only using 600mg daily for the length of the ph use, frankly I just use it as a base / appetite enhancement during cycles.

[Sonny]

Appeciate the feedback.

"Tickets to the gun show"

[jw25558]

Excellent post voodoo. I appreciate the info.

[RisingAgainst]

Now... since we're on the subject of bold, I'm guessing 6 weeks should/would be ideal... my problem is, I can only afford 4... LOL any thoughts on this one?

[dalvare1]

I talked to the people who actually formulated bold because I am doing a log for them. There is no exact convrersion "rate." They said that everyones rate would be different. So A guess of anywhere between 5-15 % is accurate, but that doesnt really help seeing as the difference is substantial.

They reccommended to begin at 4 a day 2/1/1 morning/afternoon/night. and work your way up to 2/2/2 for 6 caps a day if you feel neccessary. Hope this helps.

[Sonny]

I talked to the people who actually formulated bold because I am doing a log for them. There is no exact convrersion "rate." They said that everyones rate would be different. So A guess of anywhere between 5-15 % is accurate, but that doesnt really help seeing as the difference is substantial.

They reccommended to begin at 4 a day 2/1/1 morning/afternoon/night. and work your way up to 2/2/2 for 6 caps a day if you feel neccessary. Hope this helps.

This is helpful. But most supps are aimed at what weight. For example are we talking a 180-200# or are we talking 230-240+. I was thinking minimum of 6 per day. Any additional thoughts per your conversation? Or is there a rep somewhere I can email? PM me if so-thanks.

[Sonny]

Now... since we're on the subject of bold, I'm guessing 6 weeks should/would be ideal... my problem is, I can only afford 4... LOL any thoughts on this one?

Not sure about this either. As far as non-methyls go I would agree with you. But if it acts similar to EQ than it will take some time to kick in. Most EQ cycles seem to be run in the range of 10-16weeks? Any thoughts?
(besides the oral toxicity vs injectables)

[RisingAgainst]

As far as I know Eq is like minimum of 12 weeks, and it is almost always frontloaded. I am guessing I would be best off to save up until I can afford an 8 week run? (minimum*)

[NemisisX7]

I think for me a good cycle of BOLD would be 4 bottles lasting I think 40 days. Then again I weigh 178. :rolleyes:

BTW I got that from soloman maybe he could chime in.

[RisingAgainst]

Ya... I've got between 15-20 pounds on you... I have 4 bottles currently, would love to get at least 2 more...

[solomon1979]

;) I think they're about to be at least 5-6 BOLD logs going on the next few months. I hope iForce pays attention and realizes that they could move a heck of alot more bottles at a better cost.

[NemisisX7]

;) I think they're about to be at least 5-6 BOLD logs going on the next few months. I hope iForce pays attention and realizes that they could move a heck of alot more bottles at a better cost.

Speak of the devil lol. Better cost.......yea.:o

[RisingAgainst]

;) I think they're about to be at least 5-6 BOLD logs going on the next few months. I hope iForce pays attention and realizes that they could move a heck of alot more bottles at a better cost.

;) iForce has some good street credit already, high priced or not, I know some kids at the gym who swear by primed. haha, But ya I can see a lot of people wanting to do some BOLD logs in the near future

[hpro]

;) I think they're about to be at least 5-6 BOLD logs going on the next few months. I hope iForce pays attention and realizes that they could move a heck of alot more bottles at a better cost.

Seriously EST needs to make a bold product.

[solomon1979]

Seriously EST needs to make a bold product.

I'd personally love it. Free Bold for Solomon!:eek: :D :)

[Voodoo]

A good bold stand alone is 10 weeks. Do what I did. You'll put on 1-2 lbs a week for 10 weeks. The problem I have is I have as much acne on bold as I do superdrol. Hell methyl vol has been the least side riddled ph Ive ever taken. at 30mg!

I would take ecdysterone (testabolan from iforce if you wanna go through their line) with it, so you get a little more out of it. I loved the results, though I wouldn't run it (mostly) solo again. If I wanna go lean before summer Im running friggin Trenadrol again. That stuff is magical :D
But yes, someone needs to produce:
A) a more concentrated version of bold. Basically 2 pills = 600mg.
B) a cheaper version of bold. 45 bucks (while DA is great) is friggin ridiculous when you go through a bottle every 8-10 days.

Oh and thank you all for your emails concerning bold and various other um sources, it made me cry - I just bought 4 bottles for the hulk stack and all.

[solomon1979]

A good bold stand alone is 10 weeks. Do what I did. You'll put on 1-2 lbs a week for 10 weeks. The problem I have is I have as much acne on bold as I do superdrol. Hell methyl vol has been the least side riddled ph Ive ever taken. at 30mg!

I would take ecdysterone (testabolan from iforce if you wanna go through their line) with it, so you get a little more out of it. I loved the results, though I wouldn't run it (mostly) solo again. If I wanna go lean before summer Im running friggin Trenadrol again. That stuff is magical :D
But yes, someone needs to produce:
A) a more concentrated version of bold. Basically 2 pills = 600mg.
B) a cheaper version of bold. 45 bucks (while DA is great) is friggin ridiculous when you go through a bottle every 8-10 days.

Oh and thank you all for your emails concerning bold and various other um sources, it made me cry - I just bought 4 bottles for the hulk stack and all.

Yeah, sorry about that one. I've got about 6 of these bottles on their way and I'm probably gonna wait and run one of EST's newer PH's with it. I also managed to score a couple of bottles of ALRI Ergomax LMG from a guy on sell.com($20 each). This was an eventful weekend as far as sweet deals are concerned. I'll post specifics on any future cycles when they manifest themselves. I can't guarantee any logs, b/c of my involvement with EST(conflict of interest), but I'll let you guys know.

[dalvare1]

4-6 per day for 8 weeks is pretty standard. But as they said, 12 weeks isnt unheard of either.