PH Stack for Fat Reduction??

[SomeGuy]

Hey Guys, I've got a coule of questions for you that I would really apreciate some feedback on.

For the last couple months I have been doing a lot of travel for work where I have been out of the gym for most of the time, sometimes for weeks at a time! With all the sudden job stress and the lack of gym going I have managed to watch some hard earned muscle melt away and watching some nasty fat slowly find its way to my waistline.

As of Monday of this coming week I will begin a new job, working from home and have lots more free time and no out of town traveling, so I will be able to jump back into a regular workout routine and easily control what I have available to eat, but I am wondering what would be the best combination of supplements would be to jumpstart my return to fitness and strenght training.
I am currently 5'10 170 lbs and (shamefully!) 15%BF.

I had previously purchased the <a href="http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/DA10">Discount Anabolics CORE 10 WEEK STACK</a>
and was planing on using it when I started my new job (this monday), but now I am wondering if this stack can help me lower my Body Fat while Increasing Muscle Size and Strength.

Can I expect this stack to help me lose the body fat while gaining muscle size?

Can/Should I combine this stack with a Fat Burner of any kind? I will be using CLA throughout the next few months, regardles of PH stack or other supplements.

I should mention that I have used PH stacks several time in the past, but never for (or along side) fat reduction.

ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL!!
THANKS!

[jw25558]

I definately would not add the fat burner to any ph cycle. There are several issues there. The only way to really deal with the body fat is through your diet. You may want to set the DA core stack to the side for now since your main objective is to drop the body fat. In my personal experience, a halo clone like Hemadrol + winztrol is a great stack to increase muscle mass while dropping some body fat. In my last stack of halo and winztrol, I gained 8lbs, while dropping my body fat 3%. It wasn't just the supplements though, I had a clean diet while on cycle.

[dalvare1]

I <3 tren for getting cut. Works really well

[SomeGuy]

So if the Tren is a good cutter then you are saying this stack would work well to help my lower by body fat %??

I am concerned about losing muscle mass while cutting, so I REALLY want to ensure that I am sparing Muscle and Losing Fat with my Diet and Exercise Routine.

Putting on extra muscle mass is never bad either :-)

[B-natural]

age? this tends to be a key factor, for now and future reference:)

[SomeGuy]

Sorry, forgot to mention. 25

[SomeGuy]

So unless anyone has any reasons why this might be a bad idea here is my plan:

I will run the Core Stack for the full 10 weeks as directed:
Products Included for ON cycle are:
1 Bottle of EST Phera-Vol, 75 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/ES14)
2 Bottles of BCS Labs TrenaPLEX, 90 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/BC04)*
1 Bottle of EST Methyl Vol, 80 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/ES11)
1 Bottle of Axis Labs HyperTEST, 120 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/AX09)( used for ON and OFF cycle)
1 Bottle of Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator, 90 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/NF18)

Products Included for OFF Cycle
1 Bottle of Legal Gear Formadrol Extreme, 60 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/LG02)
1 Bottle of SNS Reduce XT, 90 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/SN17)**
1 Bottle of Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator, 90 Caps (http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/../p/NF18)

Cycle Suggested Use:
Weeks1-3:
EST Phera-Vol 1 capsule 2 times a day ( 1 in the morning 1 6-8 hours later)
BCS Labs TrenaPLEX 3 caps a day ( 1 Cap in the morning 2 Caps 6-8 hours later )
Axis Labs HyperTEST 2 a day ( 1 in the morning 1 6-8 hours later )
Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator 3 a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )

Weeks 4-6:
EST Methyl Vol 1 capsule 2 times a day ( 1 in the morning 1 6-8 hours later)
BCS Labs TrenaPLEX 3 caps a day ( 1 Cap in the morning 2 Caps 6-8 hours later )
Axis Labs HyperTEST 2 a day ( 1 in the morning 1 6-8 hours later )
Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator 3 a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )

Week 7:
Legal Gear Formadrol Extreme 3 a day ( 3 caps ½ hour before bed )
Axis Labs HyperTEST 2 a day ( 1 in the morning 1 6-8 hours later )
SNS Reduce XT 3 caps a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )
Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator 3 a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )

Week 8:
Legal Gear Formadrol Extreme 2 a day ( 3 caps ½ hour before bed )
Axis Labs HyperTEST 1 a day ( 1 in the morning )
SNS Reduce XT 3 caps a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )
Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator 3 a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )

Weeks 9-10:
Legal Gear Formadrol Extreme 1 a day until the bottle is gone
SNS Reduce XT 3 caps a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day until the bottle is gone )
Now Foods Liver Detoxifier & Regenerator 3 a day ( 1 cap 3 times a day )

And while on the cycle I will be on a reduced cal diet to lose as much fat as possible without losing (and possible gaining) muscle mass.


2-week Workout Routine will be as follows:
Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Lats
Day 2: Biceps, Triceps, Abs
Day 3: Rest
Day 4: Quads, Calves, Lower Back
Day 5: Chest, Shoulders, Lats
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Biceps, Triceps, Abs
Day 8: Quads, Calves, Lower Back
Day 9: Rest
Day 10: Chest, Shoulders, Lats
Day 11: Biceps, Triceps, Abs
Day 12: Rest
Day 13: Quads, Calves, Lower Back
Day 14: Rest
Day 15: Repeat

Cardio will be Stationary Bicycle (in my home) 30 minutes everyday as soon as I wake up (about 7:30am) on an empty stomach. Three days a week will be High Intensity Interval and the other days I will keep my heart rate around 150bpm.
Strength training will come around 4pm.

My Diet will be as follows:

*MEAL 1
--One whole egg
--4 egg whites
--5 oz. some lean meat source
--1/2 cup oatmeal
--3 NOW Super Omega 3-6-9

*MEAL 2
--5 to 7 oz. lean meat source, one apple
or
--2 scoop protein shake (EvoPro or Syntha-6) with 1 tbs. flax oil

*MEAL 3
--5 to 7 oz. chicken breast
--1/2 cup cooked brown rice
--small green salas with oil/vin dressing

*MEAL 4
--Tuna or Chicken Salad (1 tbs. mayonnaise, celery, relish)
--one apple

*MEAL 5
--5 to 7 oz. lean meat (steak, pork loin, chicken, turkey, or fish)
--two to three cups non-starchy vegetables
--small green salas with oil/vin dressing

*MEAL 6
--Protein Shake/Pudding with one tbs. almond butter or walnuts.

At each meal I will be taking 3 Amino Acid Tabs.
Also will be taking New Chapter Multi Vit in the morning w Meal 1.

Snack (if hungry) - handful of almonds or roasted mixed nuts.

I would really like to hear what people think about this, or if any modifications should be made.

Thanks for the help guys!

[RisingAgainst]

That actually looks really good man. You know your body better than anyone else on here. And DA put a ton of thought into that stack. When you start the methyl vol dont be scared to hit the carbs every now and then, the SD will chow through em man.

[NemisisX7]

Adding sesamin on cycle could help lean you a bit or at least keep some of the fat off while gaining and wont hamper your gains at all.

[llllern]

Week 8:
Legal Gear Formadrol Extreme 2 a day ( 3 caps ½ hour before bed )


there was a type O it should say



Week 8:
Legal Gear Formadrol Extreme 2 a day ( 2 caps ½ hour before bed )


It is a good stack but I didn't resond at all to it ??? :confused: dant ask me why.


the Phera-vol will not lean you out and I do reccomend that you run the Phera-vol for @ least 30 days


I'm in my 2nd week of Pct right now and every thing is good I had went up to 30 mg of methyl-vol for a week trying to get something out of it . I decided to stop eairly and wait 10 weeks to try again . Make sure your diet is good and clean if you want to lean out.

[SomeGuy]

Thanks for the info everyone.

I orderd some Sesamin, but what is the recomended dose??

I plan on starting this stack a week from today

[solomon1979]

Thanks for the info everyone.

I orderd some Sesamin, but what is the recomended dose??

I plan on starting this stack a week from today

What brand did you buy?

[SomeGuy]

I bought 2 bottles of the SAN (60 softgels) Sesamin.
The bottle claims "Ultra Pure Sesame Oil (standardized for 500mg sesamin) 1000mg" per softgel

Are there any other products that will help me in fat loss while on this cycle?
Earlier in this thread I was advised not to take a fat burner (though I am not sure what the problem would be - explaination would be appreciated) while on cycle... is this true for stimulant free products, such as Dicana or SAN Blaze?

[solomon1979]

I bought 2 bottles of the SAN (60 softgels) Sesamin.
The bottle claims "Ultra Pure Sesame Oil (standardized for 500mg sesamin) 1000mg" per softgel

Are there any other products that will help me in fat loss while on this cycle?
Earlier in this thread I was advised not to take a fat burner (though I am not sure what the problem would be - explaination would be appreciated) while on cycle... is this true for stimulant free products, such as Dicana or SAN Blaze?

Some hormonal products have the tendency to elevate blood pressure, so that's the rationale behind avoiding stims on cycle.

[NemisisX7]

I'm using MAN Vaporize (sesamin) at 3 ed. Then again I weigh 178. B-Nat I think dosed it at 4-6. Can't remember.

[Denzel]

Hey Guys, I've got a coule of questions for you that I would really apreciate some feedback on.

For the last couple months I have been doing a lot of travel for work where I have been out of the gym for most of the time, sometimes for weeks at a time! With all the sudden job stress and the lack of gym going I have managed to watch some hard earned muscle melt away and watching some nasty fat slowly find its way to my waistline.

As of Monday of this coming week I will begin a new job, working from home and have lots more free time and no out of town traveling, so I will be able to jump back into a regular workout routine and easily control what I have available to eat, but I am wondering what would be the best combination of supplements would be to jumpstart my return to fitness and strenght training.
I am currently 5'10 170 lbs and (shamefully!) 15%BF.

I had previously purchased the <a href="http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/DA10">Discount Anabolics CORE 10 WEEK STACK</a>
and was planing on using it when I started my new job (this monday), but now I am wondering if this stack can help me lower my Body Fat while Increasing Muscle Size and Strength.

Can I expect this stack to help me lose the body fat while gaining muscle size?

Can/Should I combine this stack with a Fat Burner of any kind? I will be using CLA throughout the next few months, regardles of PH stack or other supplements.

I should mention that I have used PH stacks several time in the past, but never for (or along side) fat reduction.

ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL!!
THANKS!

Dude, give it some time first. Start the getting back process first then think about prohormones. If I were you, I'd clean my diet, hit the gym consistantly then start with basic supps and after a while look into something more serious.