Wedgy's Xfactor log

[wedgylx]

DOSAGE
~8:30am 2 pills (200mg)

~2pm 2 pills (200mg)

~8pm 1 pill (100mg)

TRAINING
SUN - Back
MON - Shoulders, traps, and abs
TUE - Bis, Tris
WED - Legs
THU - 45 min cardio on empty stomach
FRI - Chest
SAT - back

DIET
CALS - 3000
MACRO SPIT - 45-40-25

SUPPLEMENTS
Random WPC
Nature's Best Isopure Protein
VPX Micellean
Dorian Yates Propeptide
Random Vitamin
Nutrabolics Isobolic

[wedgylx]

i just started workin out again yesterday (bis and Tris). Shoulder's feeling a little better.

I also started taking Xfactor yesterday but was too busy to make a detailed log on the day. I did bi's and tris yesterday and today I am pretty damn sore

legs
squats - 315lbs X10, X10 (+ 2 reps)
________365lbs X6+ 50 lbs, - 2 reps)

1 Legged Leg Extensions - 160lbs X10, X9(+ 2 reps)
2 legged leg extensions - 260lbs X11

Leg Curls - 160lbs X12(+2 reps)
__________170lbs X10(+ 10 lbs)

Calf Extensions - 170lbs X10, X10, X10, X9 (+ 2 reps)

had an AWESOME workout. i think all the cardio has added some strength to my legs?

[max von]

wedge

looks good hope that your shoulder is doing better

max von

[Kingdime1332]

Goodluck Wedg. Hope this works out for you.

[italionstallionl]

good luck, im glad we have like 35 people running x factor at the same time, it should really let us know how most people respond to it. judging from other logs i have looked at, people love this stuff

[wedgylx]

Did cardio today, burnt some good cals

[wedgylx]

I just played half court. I'm trying to gain a little muscle thanks to Xfactor while I go for maintanance calories.

I'm going to start using SNS CVM extreme with this to give it an extra kick.

Had a real shitty workout, little tired today plus my shoulder was bothering me.

CHEST
Flat Bench - 255lbs X4 (STRUGGLED needed way more of a spot)
___________225lbs X 7, X6 (-1 rep)

Incline DB Bench - 80lbs X10, X9, X7 (- 2 reps)

Cable Bench Press - 110lbs X10, X10
_________________100lbs X12

Incline Flies - 40lbs X11, X10 X10 (-1 rep)

[wedgylx]

Cardio yesterday, back tonight

I'm stacking Syntrax SwoleV2 with it since i have a tub with about half left in it. I stopped using it when I got my SNS CVM extreme :wink:

[italndiesel]

Cardio yesterday, back tonight

I'm stacking Syntrax SwoleV2 with it since i have a tub with about half left in it. I stopped using it when I got my SNS CVM extreme :wink:

it will be interesting to see how you respond when dieting and doing cardio like you are

how long will the swole last you?

[wedgylx]

Cardio yesterday, back tonight

I'm stacking Syntrax SwoleV2 with it since i have a tub with about half left in it. I stopped using it when I got my SNS CVM extreme :wink:

it will be interesting to see how you respond when dieting and doing cardio like you are

how long will the swole last you?

i have like a half bottle of that and 1/4 bottle CVM extreme left. Also I have one unopened bottle of swole at home if i need it. Might as well use it up before my next purchase of E2 Matrix !

[wedgylx]

back
Lat Pulldowns - 180lbs X9, X8 (same)
_____________210lbs X4

1 arm lat pulldowns - 90lbs X9, X8 (+ 3 reps)
__________________80lbs X11 (+ 3 reps)

High Pulley Rows - 100lbs X10, X10 (never did these before)

cable row machine - 160lbs X6, X6 (+ 30lbs, - 3 reps)

2 sets of twists w/ a medecine ball (~30 reps each set)

3 sets of kneeling crunches - 85lbs X12
_________________________65lbs X20
_________________________70lbs X20

3 sets of leg lifts with my partner slapping my legs down at thier peak

I did back and abs today, i skipped on deads because I'm still not comfortable putting that much weight on my shoulders ( i skipped shoulders this week due to leering pain). I'm getting better so we'll see how I feel by next week. I felt a great "pump" in my back today but no real increases in strength

[max von]

looking good wedg keep up the good work

max von

[Kingdime1332]

Wedg how you like the Swole V2? I've never tried it before but I have some friends who swear by it.

[wedgylx]

Wedg how you like the Swole V2? I've never tried it before but I have some friends who swear by it.

I love it, i love CVM extreme more though lol.

[wedgylx]

bis and tris
preacher curls - 115lbs X 6, X5, X4 (same but almost no spotting)
standing DB curls - 50lbs X5, X4, X4 (+5 lbs, - 2 reps)
1 arm curl machine - 60lbs X8 (1st time i ever did these, hated them)
45degree lying hammer curls - 30lbs X12 (+ 2 reps)
__________________________35lbs X10 (+5lbs, equal reps)

Smith close Grip Bench - 205lbs X11, X10, X9, X8

reverse grip pushdowns - 55lbs X20
______________________70lbs X12, X12

Rope Pushdowns - 60lbs X8, X8

Rope overhead extensions - 60lbs X9, X8

not a bad day at all, felt big. I don't think the Xfactor kicked in yet but i just had a good day.

[wedgylx]

legs
squats - 365lbs X10, X9, X9 (+ 50lbs + 2 reps)
1 legged extensions - 180lbs X9, X9, X8 (+20lbs, +1 rep)
2 leg curls - 180lbs X10, X10, X10 (+20lbs, same reps)

seated calf extensions - 180lbs X11, X10, X10, X10 (+10lbs, + 3 reps)

GREAT day today, felt awesome and broke PR's in all 4 categories.

For future reference, the +/- placed in parenthesis after the weights is how i fared today versus the week before my start of Xfactor (been about 1 week)

[italionstallionl]

very nice

(the strength must come from the new 'master memer' name you have been awarded)

[wedgylx]

very nice

(the strength must come from the new 'master memer' name you have been awarded)

LOL yep, i think that was it. My legs are feelin great lately

[max von]

that a boy wedge keep it come people are going to be shocked and you will do really good looks awsome on legs

max von

[wedgylx]

cardio today, sweated hard

[Kingdime1332]

Wedg, thats a good way to show the weights going up, I'm going to have to use that my next review.

[Trans_Isomer]

Wed looking good,
Cant wait till my cycle for the summer
anyway, are you experiencing any sides like acne from the xfactor?

[wedgylx]

chest
flat bench - 255lbs X4, X4, X4 (didnt need a spot on the 1st or 2nd one)
Incline Bench - 195lbs X5, X4, X4
DB Bench - 80lbs X8, X7, X7
Cable Flies - 60lbs X13, X9, X9 (moved the seat forward after the 1st set, wasnt getting full ROM) (+2 reps)

[wedgylx]

Wed looking good,
Cant wait till my cycle for the summer
anyway, are you experiencing any sides like acne from the xfactor?

no sides at all..

noticed better pumps and harder muscles though

[italionstallionl]

wicked hard muscles, like hella pumpsv :lol:

[wedgylx]

back
deadlifts - 315lbs X8, X8, X7 (+3 reps)
Lat Pulldowns - 210lbs X5, X5 (+30lbs, - 4 reps)
_____________180lbs X9

1 arm pulldowns - 90lbs X8, X8 (+ 2 reps)
_______________100lbs X5 (+ 10lbs, - 4 reps)

bent barbell rows - 185lbs X9, X9 (same)

Bent DB rows - 80lbs X10, X10

[max von]

that a boy wedg glad to see that you are seeing the result all know is to grow

max von

[wedgylx]

shoulders, traps, and abs
Standing DB presses - 45lbs X10, X10, X9 (did these to take a little weight off the shoulder, felt pretty good)

Posterior deltoid cable raises - 20lbs X12, X10

Upright rows - 75lbs X10, X8, X8

Circuit training doing medecine ball twists for 60 seconds, then ab crunches on the ball for 40 seconds. Did this for 6 minutes

Kneeling Cable Crunches - 85lbs X14, X14, X12

Leg Raises w/partner slapping my legs down at thier peak X15, X15, X14

[max von]

Wedg

weights look really good kept up all the hard work

max von

[wedgylx]

bis and tris
Preacher Curls - 120lbs X5, X5, X4 (+5lbs, - 1 rep)

DB curls - 50lbs X5, X4 (+5lbs, -2 reps)
_________45lbs X7

Cable Curls - 40lbs X 9, X9 (+5lbs, -1 rep)
___________35lbs X12 (+2 reps)

Tri Extensions - 100lbs X10, X10, X10 (+10 lbs)

Close Grip Bench Press - 200lbs X13, X10, X10 (+3 reps)

Tri Pushdowns - 85lbs X12
______________90lbs X10, X10 (+10lbs, +2 reps)

One Arm Reverse Grip Pushdowns - 20lbs X12
______________________________25lbs X9

had a great day actually. Feeling strong and lookin big. The pumps in my arms (especially tris) today were pretty awesome.

[max von]

Wedg

you the man all love reading this cause it quiets all the other people against it

max von

[wedgylx]

legs
Squats - 385lbs X10, X9, X9 (+70lbs!!!!! + 2 reps)
1 legged Leg Extensions - 180lbs X12, X11 (+20lbs, + 4 reps)
Decelerating Lunges - 70lbs X10, X9
Calf Extensions - 190lbs X12, X11, X11, X10 (+20lbs, + 4 reps)

had another amazing leg day. I think this stuff might be kicking in for me. The pumps are unbelieveable. I had to go to the bathroom and take off my boxers because they were hugging my quads too tight lol. My quads and my calves were pumped beyond belief and as you can see were strong as hell. My legs get strong fast, but not this fast. I'm up 70 friggen lbs on my squat in 3 weeks. Thats unreal.

[italionstallionl]

thats amazing wedgy, great work. kinda weird about the boxers, had to free ball it, huh :shock:

again, good work, keep it up

[wedgylx]

thats amazing wedgy, great work. kinda weird about the boxers, had to free ball it, huh :shock:

again, good work, keep it up

lol I wasnt going to type the boxer thing, but its true and its just ridiculous how pumped up my quads were.

[max von]

legs
Squats - 385lbs X10, X9, X9 (+70lbs!!!!! + 2 reps)
1 legged Leg Extensions - 180lbs X12, X11 (+20lbs, + 4 reps)
Decelerating Lunges - 70lbs X10, X9
Calf Extensions - 190lbs X12, X11, X11, X10 (+20lbs, + 4 reps)

had another amazing leg day. I think this stuff might be kicking in for me. The pumps are unbelieveable. I had to go to the bathroom and take off my boxers because they were hugging my quads too tight lol. My quads and my calves were pumped beyond belief and as you can see were strong as hell. My legs get strong fast, but not this fast. I'm up 70 friggen lbs on my squat in 3 weeks. Thats unreal.

Wedg i think that you have reached the peak buddy now its time to just keep growing your weights are incredable

max von

[Kingdime1332]

Wedg you ever get that kind of pump in your legs from any other product?

[wedgylx]

Chest
Flat Bench - 255lbs X4, X3 (-1 on the 2nd set...felt weak)
___________225lbs X8

Incline Bench - 195lbs X5, X4, X4 (same as last week)

Chest machine - 220lbs X14, X13, X11 (+ 3 reps)

Cable Flies - 70lbs X8, X8, X7 (+10lbs, - 1 rep)

I blame my shitty workout today on the weekend. It was spring weekend on campus so I drank Thurs, Fri, and Sat. My roomate and I finished 75 beers and a handle of vodka so I got pretty messed up. I stayed drunk form thurs night to sun morning. Pretty wild.

[wedgylx]

Wedg you ever get that kind of pump in your legs from any other product?

never, it was unreal

[wedgylx]

back
cable hyperextensions - 310lbs X15, X15
hyperextensions on ball X15, X15

Lat Pulldowns - 210lbs X6, X5, X4 (+30lbs, - 3reps)

Cable Row Machine - 160lbs X10 (+4 reps)
__________________170lbs X8, X7 (+10lbs, + 2 reps)
Bent EZ Bar Rows - 195lbs X7, X7

High Pully Rows w/ "u" bar - 130lbs X15
________________________150lbs X10 (+50lbs)

felt great today. Had good pumps in the back and felt strong too. I'm beggining to notice much increased size and definition in the forearms as have many other people who used Xfactor. Pretty nice since forearms have always been a weakness of mine. Tommorow I'm going light on shoulders one more time but I'm almost feeling 100%.

[wedgylx]

shoulders and traps
Cable Military Presses - 90lbs X10, X10, X9 (+ 30lbs, - 2 reps)

Cable Posterior delt extensions - 25lbs X10, X9 (+5lbs, - 2 reps)

Barbell Shrugs 295lbs X10, X10, X9

DB Shrugs 80lbs X25 (+15 reps from last time I did them, which was a long while back)
-------------------------------------------------
I did 3 revolving sets of russian twists (25 reps) with a medecine ball and crunches (25 reps) on an inflatable ball. I took no breaks and I was HURTING bad at the end. So i did 75reps of twists and 25reps of crunches with no breaks.

3 sets of leg lifts with my partner slapping my feet down. X15, X15, X13

2 sets of Kneeling crunches - 85lbs X20, X20 (+6 reps)

felt strong today even though I have a little cold. I cant wait to get out of dorms so I'm not sick so often.

What do you guys think of doing reps of 25 for DB shrugs? Am I better off to just use barbell? I feel it alot more with Dumbell, but my school DBs only go up to 80.

Also I've been putting frozen bananas in with my pineapple, strawberry, banana isopure. It tastes unreal.

[max von]

Wedg

things are looking really good your increases in weight are out of this work, glad to see this

max von

[w_llewellyn]

Good numbers! Great to see wedgylx.. Keep up the good work!

[wedgylx]

Good numbers! Great to see wedgylx.. Keep up the good work!

bill, do you think 1 serving a day of muscle milk would affect my gains? I got a bunch of RTD's to bring with me to class from a friend.

[wedgylx]

Good numbers! Great to see wedgylx.. Keep up the good work!

PS - thanks again for letting me try this stuff out. I'm loving it so far, and a few friends of mine are going to do cycles when I'm done.

[wedgylx]

bi's and tri's
Preacher Curls - 125lbs X4, X4 (+10lbs, - 2 reps)
______________105 X9

DB curls - 55lbs X3 (shouldnt have tried to move up yet)
_________50lbs X5, X4 (+5lbs - 2 reps)

Cable 2 handed curls - 65lbs X10, X10, X9

Close Grip Bench Press - 185lbs X13
_____________________205lbs X11, X10, X9 (same, absolutely no spotter)

Rope Push Downs - 60lbs X14 (+ 6 reps)
________________70lbs X8, X8 (+10lbs)

Pushdowns - 90lbs X10, X9, X8 (+10lbs, +2 reps)

French PResses - 75lbs X10, X10

my arms were pumped beyond belief today. My bis looked like inflated balloons. Felt great. I've felt under the weather the past few days but still had a great workout.

[wedgylx]

chest
Flat Bench - 255lbs X4, X4 (same)
___________225lbs X8

Incline Bench - 205lbs X4, X4, X4 (+10lbs, -1rep)

Incline Flies 40lbs X12
__________45lbs X9, X7 (+5lbs, - 3 reps)

Pushups on an inflatable ball supersetted with pushups w/one arm on a medecine ball.

[Kingdime1332]

Keep up the good work Wedg.

[wedgylx]

Keep up the good work Wedg.

thanks bro. I had a kind of shitty workout today because i was sick all week and also I got dragged into playing basketball all afternoon. I played for about 4 hours straight, my hall in my dorm had an organized boys vs girls game and after that all the guys just kept playing and playing. I figured its the last time I'll see some of them, so i just played til everyone quit.

[max von]

Keep up the good work Wedg.

thanks bro. I had a kind of shitty workout today because i was sick all week and also I got dragged into playing basketball all afternoon. I played for about 4 hours straight, my hall in my dorm had an organized boys vs girls game and after that all the guys just kept playing and playing. I figured its the last time I'll see some of them, so i just played til everyone quit.

just keep up the hard work

max von

[wedgylx]

back
Deadlifts - 335lbs X7, X7, X5 (+20lbs, -1 rep)
Lat pulldowns - 220lbs X5, X4, X4 (+40lbs - 4 reps)
Mid-level cable rows - 115lbs X15, X15, X14
High-level cable rows - 115lbs X12, X12

Highlevel cable rows drop set
115lbs X11
95lbs X6
80lbs X7

[italionstallionl]

good luck on all the finals, i get super stressed during finals and usually cant sleep to well. hopefully it goes better for you

[wedgylx]

good luck on all the finals, i get super stressed during finals and usually cant sleep to well. hopefully it goes better for you

its not the stress thats keeping me awake, its all the damn work :cry:

shoulders, traps, abs
Barbell Military Press - 185lbs X9,X9, X8

Superset:-------------------------1----2-
__Lateral DB Delt Raises 35lbs-----X8---X8 (+5lbs, - 2 reps)
___DB Front Delt Raises 30lbs-----X8----X7

Drop Set of Cable Upright rows
80lbs X9 / 60lbs X7 / 40lbs X7
80lbs X8 / 60lbs X7 / 40lbs X6
80lbs X8 / 60lbs X6 / 40lbs X6


3 supersets of russian twists and crunches on the ball.

3 sets of leg lifts w/20lbs weight X10, X10, X10

3 sets of kneeling crunches 85lbs X20, X20, X18

[max von]

looking good keep it up how is the soreness is that starting to go down for you yet

max von

[wedgylx]

looking good keep it up how is the soreness is that starting to go down for you yet

max von

yeah its back to normal

[max von]

good then you should be fully loaded and ready to really grow now

max von

[wedgylx]

bis and tris
preacher curls - 125lbs X5, X5, X4 (+1 rep)
Standing EZ curls - 115lbs X8, X7, X7

Cable Curls w/slightly bent elbows 35lbs X12
_____________________________40lbs X9, X8

Close Grip Bench - 205lbs X11
________________225lbs X8, X6 (+20lbs, - 3 reps)

1 arm pushdowns - 35lbs X16
_________________45lbs X8, X8 (+10lbs, - 3 reps)

Superset:---------------1---2---3
_Rope Pushdowns 85lbs X8, X8, X8 (+25lbs)
_"ball" pushdowns 20lbs X10, X10, X10

Felt huge today, had a great workout. My arms have gotten bigger. I was supposed to do measurements sunday, but the scale in my gym has been broken for a while. I'll do them friday night or saturday morning.

[wedgylx]

I missed my legs day today, I'll have to make up for them saturday

[wedgylx]

just to let everyone know, I've been doing maintenance-type workouts at home. I need to reactivate my gym membership tommorow (just moved home from school this weekend)

[Trans_Isomer]

Finally done with school Wed? Mine finished about a week ago, man am I glad! Well now you can really focus on being a 24/7 powerhouse!

[max von]

enjoy your time being out and keep up the strong work outs

max von

[wedgylx]

yeah guys, my training this summer is going to be off the wall

[wedgylx]

shoulders traps and abs
Barbell Military Press - 205lbs X9. X9. X8
Reverse Pec Dec 120lbs X9, X8

Upright rows - 120lbs X17
____________160lbs X10, X10

Kneeling Crunches - 160lbs X25, X25, X25
3 sets of crunches on the ball
3 sets of russian twists

first time at my summer gym. New equipment means the weights are a little differant.

[wedgylx]

bis tris
Preacher Curls - 135lbs X4, X3 (+10lbs, -1 rep)
______________125lbs X4

Standing DB Curls - 50lbs X6, X5, X4 (+1 rep)

Superset------------------1----2----3
_2 arm Cable Curls 120lbs X10--X10--X8
_2 arm hammers___X80lbs X8---X8---X7

Close Grip Smith Bench - 215lbs X8, X7, X6 (-10lbs on a differant smith machine though)
Overhead Cable Extensions - 150lbs X14, X13, X12

Superset----------------1------2--------3
_Tri Pushdowns 150lbs X14-----X13-----X11
_Rope Pushdowns 110lbs X8----X8------X6

felt great today looked huge. Xfactor seems to be giving me crazy strength gains and pumps but after a few hours I look "normal" or the same i looked before the cycle. Strength is definitely through the roof but size hasn't caught up yet. I still have 1 bottle to go though.

[max von]

glad to see the result, and they look really good to, remember keep tose calories up as the x-factor is showing to use them up really fast.

max von

[Kingdime1332]

How's the weight Wedg?

[wedgylx]

How's the weight Wedg?

weight seems to be about the same as when I started. I think I may have lost a few lbs of fat actually. I'm going to do my measurements sunday.

[wedgylx]

Did Legs today, Chest is up for tommorow.

I didnt bring my notebook so looks like my weights and reps for today will have to go unlogged. However, I will say that my knees are bothering me more than usual. I'm going to contact Molecular tommorow and see if I can use MSM while on Xfactor

[max von]

I just wanted to let all you guys know, that i talked to Bill today and that he is keeping an eye on all of your logs and really appreciates all the hard work thats you are doing. He is watching them so keep up the good work

max von

[wedgylx]

chest
Flat Bench - 245 X6
____________255lbs X4, X4

Incline DB Bench - 90lbs X7, X6, X6

Drop Sets Hammer Strength Bench Machine -
225lbs X8, 205lbs X6, 185lbs X5
225lbs X7, 175lbs X8, 155lbs X7
225lbs X6, 175lbs X6, 155lbs X7

Incline DB flyes - 45lbs X10, X9

Cable Flyes - 100lbs X13
____________120lbs X11

all in all a good day in the gym. My chest is puffed up nicely. I've started using 3g L-arginine pre workout and I'm using swole V2 again to finish this cycle up strong

[wedgylx]

back
Very Wide Grip Pullups X5, X4, X4
Close Grip bent row station 90lbs X14, 115lbs X7, 125lbs X6
Low pulley rows with "U" bar 180lbs X6, X6 170lbs X8, 160lbs X10
Wide Grip Pulldowns - 170lbs X10, X10
Hyperextension Machine - Resistance level 16 X12, X10, X10

I was mad that i forgot my straps today, so i couldnt really do Deadlifts. Glad I can do wide grip pullups now though!

I cant do my comparison i used to do because of the new machines I used

[max von]

Wedge

things look really good for you and weight have really gone up. How many days did you say that you have left? and how has the third bottle worked for you compared to the first to

max von

[wedgylx]

9 days left - feels like the pumps have improved alot and I've been leaning out moreso lately. The first bottle was nice because it gave my muscles a super-hard feeling which is still present but not quite as noticeable

[wedgylx]

shoulders, traps, abs
Smith Military Press - 215lbs X6, X5, X5
Cable Lateral Raises - 50lbs X10, X8

DB Shrugs - 110lbs X15, X13, X12

Crunch Machine - Resistance 7 X15, resistance 8 X10, X10

Kneeling Crunches - 150lbs X25, X25, X25

Knee Raise/leg raise combo - X10, X9, X8

[wedgylx]

bis and tris
Preacher curls - 135lbs X4, X4, X4
Hammer Curls - 40lbs X6, X5, X5
Cable curls - 60lbs X12, 90lbs X6, X6

Dips - BW +90lbs X6, X5, X5
CGBP machine - 200lbs X10, X9, X9
Rope Pulldowns - 90lbs X8 X8
Tri Pushdowns - 110lbs X9, X9

One of the cable machines is alot heavier lb per lb than the other in my gym. As you can see i used the lighter one for curls and the heavier one for tris. I'm glad i figured that out because i maxed out the lighter one last week for tris and was getting mad :evil:

All in all a great day in the gym!!

[wedgylx]

we had a bad noreaster last night and my gym had a power outage. Nstar (the electric company) is on strike so I'm thinking its going to be a while. I have another membership to a gym a few cities away, so I'll go there tommorow if I have to

[italionstallionl]

O/T
Wedgy, how do you break up quotes?

you do it when people ask multiple questiongs like

1
2
3
4


thanks

[wedgylx]

1

2

3

4

you mean like that? are you familiar with HTML at all? type [ quote] before the section you want to quote, and [ /quote] after the section you want to quote, but without the space.

BOLD - [ B] -- [ /B]
Underline - [ U] -- [/U]
Italic - [ I] [ /U]

works for adding pictures, URLs, everything.

[italionstallionl]

yep

thanks wedgy, i havent done much in html, one of my classes at college touched on it, but it was in dreamweaver-a program that automatically codes everything, just hit the big "B" and it becomes bold :roll:

[wedgylx]

I'll be taking the pics this week and writing up a final evaluation. Due to a death in the gf's family I've missed out on the gym recently. Gettin back in there tommorow!!

[EDAWG146]

1st, how long does this stuff take to kick in and can it be used as part of a pct and 2nd I wanna send pics of myself (just don't laugh) but all I have is a phone I don't have a printer.

[max von]

1st, how long does this stuff take to kick in and can it be used as part of a pct and 2nd I wanna send pics of myself (just don't laugh) but all I have is a phone I don't have a printer.

There is in general a 2 week loading phase till it has fully kicked in. It will be after loading phase that you will notice the most soreness, that will be how you know that the loading phase is over.

For some people it does take less then 2 weeks to kick in but that is how long it takes on average.

hope that helps

max von

[wedgylx]

2-3 weeks

[wedgylx]

i want everyone to know i didnt forget about this. Moral of the story - don't trust a woman with anything lol. I had my gf take my after photos a week or two ago and she hadnt given them to me yet. Now she "may have deleted them". we'll see how it goes. I'll write up my final review within a few days photos or no photos

[wedgylx]

MY BELATED FINAL REVIEW
Sorry this took so long. I havent had the time to sit and type this out, but with the new bottles in I wanted to comment. The pictures unfortunately fell through but the words will speak for themselves.

STRENGTH CHANGES
PREACHER CURLS +10lbs, -1 rep
---Decent rise here. 10lbs in 50days thought is nothing too crazy
INCLINE BARBELL BENCH +10lbs, -1rep
---again, nothing spectacular
FLAT BARBELL BENCH no change
---this really got me mad. I have since smashed my record though :)
DEADLIFTS +20lbs, -1rep---this was a pretty good increase. I attribute alot of the increase to stronger hammies even though i try to isolate lower back with these.
LAT PULLDOWNS +40lbs, -4reps
----40lbs is clearly a big increase however you must realise i also dropped 4 reps.
CLOSE GRIP BENCH +20lbs, -3reps
----Pretty good increase.
SQUATS +70lbs, +2reps
---This was the best increase i had. I attribute alot to the Xfactor, however due to my knees i hadn't worked my legs religiously in a long time before this cycle. So some muscle-memory, some recrutement, but alot of gains.

SIZE CHANGES
CHEST -1in
---seemed more defined
QUADS +1in
---increased in size and strength
CALVES +.15in
---decent increase
ARMS -.3in
---very upset about this drop, because i know i didnt lose .3in of fat
BF% ~-1%
---if anything my calories were increased slightly, so i didnt expect to lose much if any
WEIGHT no change
---strange that i had no real change in weight - that means I gained around 2.5lbs of muscle in 50 days.

A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SUPPLEMENT
The pumps on Xfactor were tremendous, unlike anything I have used aside from ph/ps. However the 2.5lbs of muscle gained in 50 days was a huge disapointment to me. After reading MaxVon's log i was hoping for hormone-like gains but instead I experienced monohydrate-type gains.

I don't think this supplement is a total loss. I think if you are a wrestler or fighter, this may be a good way to increase strength without increasing mass. Also its pretty good for pumps for anyone who's willing to spend over $100 for pumps (like ghost maybe ;) ).

I thank Bill VERY much for letting me try this product, but its just not the product for me. I don't think I'll use it again, and I think I'd stick to creatine instead.

[italionstallionl]

MY BELATED FINAL REVIEW
Sorry this took so long. I havent had the time to sit and type this out, but with the new bottles in I wanted to comment. The pictures unfortunately fell through but the words will speak for themselves.

STRENGTH CHANGES
PREACHER CURLS +10lbs, -1 rep
---Decent rise here. 10lbs in 50days thought is nothing too crazy
INCLINE BARBELL BENCH +10lbs, -1rep
---again, nothing spectacular
FLAT BARBELL BENCH no change
---this really got me mad. I have since smashed my record though :)
DEADLIFTS +20lbs, -1rep---this was a pretty good increase. I attribute alot of the increase to stronger hammies even though i try to isolate lower back with these.
LAT PULLDOWNS +40lbs, -4reps
----40lbs is clearly a big increase however you must realise i also dropped 4 reps.
CLOSE GRIP BENCH +20lbs, -3reps
----Pretty good increase.
SQUATS +70lbs, +2reps
---This was the best increase i had. I attribute alot to the Xfactor, however due to my knees i hadn't worked my legs religiously in a long time before this cycle. So some muscle-memory, some recrutement, but alot of gains.

SIZE CHANGES
CHEST -1in
---seemed more defined
QUADS +1in
---increased in size and strength
CALVES +.15in
---decent increase
ARMS -.3in
---very upset about this drop, because i know i didnt lose .3in of fat
BF% ~-1%
---if anything my calories were increased slightly, so i didnt expect to lose much if any
WEIGHT no change
---strange that i had no real change in weight - that means I gained around 2.5lbs of muscle in 50 days.

A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THE SUPPLEMENT
The pumps on Xfactor were tremendous, unlike anything I have used aside from ph/ps. However the 2.5lbs of muscle gained in 50 days was a huge disapointment to me. After reading MaxVon's log i was hoping for hormone-like gains but instead I experienced monohydrate-type gains.

I don't think this supplement is a total loss. I think if you are a wrestler or fighter, this may be a good way to increase strength without increasing mass. Also its pretty good for pumps for anyone who's willing to spend over $100 for pumps (like ghost maybe ;) ).

I thank Bill VERY much for letting me try this product, but its just not the product for me. I don't think I'll use it again, and I think I'd stick to creatine instead.

good review, i like the honesty, and i feel that i had a VERY similar....almost identical experience as you

[Brandon]

very thorough wedge, great review.

[Kingdime1332]

Good Review Wedg, just goes to show that just because one supp works great for one person doesn't mean it works great for all.

[EDAWG146]

big up wedgylx :!: I appreciate the honesty bro, although I never had intentions on using it, your honesty shows me alot. Like tehy say "what works for some might not work for others".

[Trans_Isomer]

Nice review Wed, got some nice strength increases