:?: When to take VPX's CEX b4 a workout...

[Love 2 Lift]

Does anyone know when the best time to take VPX's CEX before a workout? 15 minutes?? 2 hours? The bottle says "Always utilize the CEX™ and MICELLEAN™ supplement strategy 2 hours prior to resistance training to ensure that muscles have a steady supply of growth and recovery enhancing amino acids & bio-active creatine". ..but I'm not stacking the 2 so what do I do and when do I do it? Thanks.

[ghostwheel]

Well it tastes bad first off. I mix with water and ice cubes cause it is easier cold somehow to the taste. I mix it the last thing before i head out the door to the gym and start drinking it on the way form my shaker bottle. You have to drink it fast because creatine decays quickly in water into the useless form of creatinine so you HAVE to drink immediately upon putting it in water. You may be able to slow the decay process by using some type of designer ph balanced water as the ph level affects the decay rate. No one actually knows what the decay rate is, but chug it quick if you want it to work. When you finish the CEX load the shaker bottle back up with water, the more water, the better the pump will be.

After I finish my last bottle of CEX I am probably quitting creatine all together because it gives you cramps and an upset stomach if you take enough to be effective. I hate comeing from the gym and running to sit on the can cause of creatine. It does help with the pump, but there are other ways that don't result in GI distress.

There is a loading strategy of taking creatine but i never did that, just chugged it right before and during the workout.

By the way this is not a review thread so it should be in supplements topic section. Just noticed that.

[Trans_Isomer]

IMO,
I dont think creatine decays that fast in water. Creatine gets broken down in the stomach yes, where pH=2. Water is around 7, neutral, so the break down in water would be slow. I would say creatine is good in water for hours upon hours. Drinking immediately is not neccesary.
CreaEster reaches peak levels much quicker than creatine mono does. I suggest 30 minutes to an hour before your workout to take your CEX. If you just take it a few minutes before your gonna work out, itll reach peak levels when your almost done, and the digestion of it during your workout will make you have to hit the can.

As for the taste, just hold your nose and throw it down

[ghostwheel]

Well I must be timing it right then cause I always hit the can when I get back home. Great pump at the gym than back home on the can. There HAS to be a better way. Legal Gear NO infuse to the rescue!

THe decay rate of creatine is unknown, I would think tap water is more acidic than 7.

[kris]

Hehe, this crap taste makes a hard time for everyone. What I did was: put a scoop of cex into a glass of water, mix it and wait like a minute. The creatine sinks to the bottom, the thing that makes the bad taste, dissolves immediately. Spill out the water and refill the glass with your favourite beverage and drink it! Good luck! :)

[Trans_Isomer]

Well I must be timing it right then cause I always hit the can when I get back home. Great pump at the gym than back home on the can. There HAS to be a better way. Legal Gear NO infuse to the rescue!

THe decay rate of creatine is unknown, I would think tap water is more acidic than 7.

Maybe you should try it 30 mins to an hour before your workout and see how it goes.
Just because the decay rate of creatine is unknown, doesnt mean you cant accurately guess. Creatine dissolves in the stomach pH of 2. Water is around 7, and is not more acidic. Water can be an acid or a base. Tap water varies by a tenth of a decimal from 7 usually. Depends on what ions and such are dissolved in it.

Creatine would NOT immediately decay into creatinine once in water in a matter of seconds. It would take hours, maybe even a day or two. This is how you could set it up yourself, get 5 grams of creatine, add to a glass of water, stir. Let sit for an hour. Pour out only the water and let the creatine in the bottom dry and get the water all evaporated out. Then, put the creatine that is now dry into the original scoop from the bucket you got the creatine out of in the first place. If the scoop is 5 grams, and it is half full, then you now have 2.5 grams of creatine left from 1 hour. That means that the decay rate is 2.5 grams of creatine dissolve from 5 grams every one hour.
Thats an example of how you could do a homemade experiment to see how much dissolved. You could vary the variables obviously, but there you go ghost!

[dinoiii]

Hasnt this ALL been said before?

Am I just missing something.

You lose NO MORE than what was lost in manufacturing the product via the addition of tap water. Creatine does NOT spontaneously combust without environmental changes (i.e. - needs acidic environment for metabolite formation).

And mix it just prior to use already if it bothers you that much as it appears you will not stop its use b/c if it didnt "work" for you, you would have stopped it long ago!

[ghostwheel]

someone new asked about CEX and we were trying to help him dinoiii, sorry if that offends you somehow.

[Kingdime1332]

I tried the CEX just for taste because one of my friends was using it and oh my god this may have been one of the worst tasting supplements I've ever had. It was the fruit or something just a nasty nasty flavor. Tasted like bad medicine.

[kris]

Another suggestion: the original lemon juice also kills the bad taste!