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foggia
January 10th, 2007, 10:19 PM
Hey guys.

I have a full bottle of dermabolics 4-ad and a small amount of 4-ad from Monster Combo(cant remember who made it) Obviously it is not enough to run a cycle and I am not able to get any more now that its banned, and as a transdermal that I have had a while, potency is also an issue. What would be the most effective thing to do with this left over stuff? Would there be any benefit to adding it to a ph stack of any kind at some point in the cycle, or even a small boost to a natural stack?

Really stumped and don't want to leave it sit much longer, any advice?

foggia
January 10th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Anybody? I really am confused about this dilema.

SNS8778
January 11th, 2007, 01:02 PM
If I had 4AD I know 100% what I would do with it.

I would run M1,4ADD for 4 weeks. Depending on how much 4AD I had, I would either spread it out over the 4 weeks with it or I would dose it up during the middle 2 weeks.

M1,4ADD and 4AD was one of my all time favorite ph stacks.

Imwithstupid
January 11th, 2007, 01:36 PM
what ive been doing is running ergomax lmg with it.
taking lmg everyday and 4ad 4o minutes before i work out only for intensity before the gym and protien synthesis afterwards.

got excellent gains. im 260 from 225 i stop on sat.

any questions?

egodog48
January 11th, 2007, 02:35 PM
You gained 35 pounds with that stack??? how long did you run it?

Moyer
January 11th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Hey guys.

I have a full bottle of dermabolics 4-ad and a small amount of 4-ad from Monster Combo(cant remember who made it) Obviously it is not enough to run a cycle and I am not able to get any more now that its banned, and as a transdermal that I have had a while, potency is also an issue. What would be the most effective thing to do with this left over stuff? Would there be any benefit to adding it to a ph stack of any kind at some point in the cycle, or even a small boost to a natural stack?

Really stumped and don't want to leave it sit much longer, any advice?

FWIW, most people recommended 200-300mg/day in a transdermal or 900mg oral for their first cycle of 4AD. It converts to test, so it's great to stack with pretty much any other hormone you want.

BillyB
January 11th, 2007, 03:08 PM
You gained 35 pounds with that stack??? how long did you run it?

:eek: :eek: :eek:

SAVAGEXP
January 11th, 2007, 05:19 PM
WOW 35lbs...

Do you have before and after pics?

Did bodyfat % go up or down?

How many weeks?

Imwithstupid
January 11th, 2007, 06:02 PM
i think its been about a month and a week my cycle ends this sat.
i think i gained about 10 pounds of fat, mebbe less. might be water wieght.
no wonder they outlawed the 2 compounds. im really happy. i also think i have a strong affinity for my steroid receptors.????
i dont know, but ive gone from alright to shibang, everyone thinks im juicing too. (wish i was) but eh.

the funniest part is its all upper body. i never worked my legs.(already big enough, got injured in august and couldnt work upper body so my legs are already big, think if i trained my whole body.any hoo i have a before pic i dont have an after........ yet. ill post it when im done.

Imwithstupid
January 11th, 2007, 06:04 PM
i ran nor at 400 mg and 4ad at 300. i though my heart was going to explode a couple times...........well worth it.

egodog48
January 12th, 2007, 03:01 AM
i ran nor at 400 mg and 4ad at 300. i though my heart was going to explode a couple times...........well worth it.


I dont know if I'd agree with that statement, but the gains are quite impressive. And to say you wished you were on the juice, I think you did alright with this one, nobody I know gains that much off of juice either, so I think you did quite well.

Im wondering how much you keep, it would be nice if all of it, but lets be realistic. If you could, do us a favor and not only post before and after, but also post one of the end of your PCT to see the total transformation.

Imwithstupid
January 13th, 2007, 07:54 AM
how do i post pictures?

SNS8778
January 13th, 2007, 02:32 PM
how do i post pictures?

For me, I would just use the 'manage attachments' icon below when u post a reply. Browse your computer, then upload the pics.

bigboy67
January 13th, 2007, 02:34 PM
you can also use photobucket. you upload your pics on there, then you can post the IMG code under the pic in your post and voila! i prefer the photobucket method because they show right up on the page full sized without having to click on a link, very convenient for viewers. just my $.02