ph,s and how long

[txcrusher]

all of these ph clones out when ph,s are supposed to be illegal. so how long will the clone ph,s be here and isnt a ph clone a ph just not as strong so will they have to keep makeing weaker clones or can u still get real ph,s untill a certain date and the companies have just stopped making them. i know this has prob been talked about already but im kinda new here and just started doing a little research on ph,s for a few months but havent looked at the laws just products, sides, and pct.

[rainman]

the real ph's, were banned a few years ago, these include:
Androstenedione (4-androsten-3, 17-dione)
19-Norandrostenedione (19-Nor-4-androsten-3,17-dione)
5-Diol or 5AD (5-androsten-3,17-diol)
4-diol or 4AD (4-androsten-3,17-diol)
Nor-diol (19-Nor-4-androsten-3,17-diol)
Nor-5-diol (19-Nor-5-androsten-3,17-diol)
1AD (1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol)
5-AA (5-alpha-androstanediol)
M1-T

Superdrol, PheraPlex, Ergo Max LMG, prostanazol, and the rest of the ph's that you can get clones of now were not banned. the FDA sent letters to the main companies that were selling them (AX, LG, and others) that warned them about selling these compounds, so they stopped making them, then smaller companies picked up were they left off. so they are not illegal at all.

hope that helps

[txcrusher]

yea thanks. i have been told the promgnon-25 is as good as the halo-50 was do you know if this would be the case im wanting to purchase my first ph stack for the spring. and i did find halo-50 but way over priced prob why they still have some.

[B-natural]

first pm 25 and halo aren't the same, which I don't believe you said they were, and as far as effectiveness, pm25 is more hit and miss and than halo, both have good reviews, some jus do not get the results they are lookin for

[solomon1979]

first pm 25 and halo aren't the same, which I don't believe you said they were, and as far as effectiveness, pm25 is more hit and miss and than halo, both have good reviews, some jus do not get the results they are lookin for

This is very true. I am one of the few that loves promagnon-25, but a Halodrol clone such as Hemadrol is effective for most everyone.

[SNS8778]

Attempting to reply to the whole thread in one post lol:
- Certain ph's were banned in Jan 05. There is not one clone out of an illegal product to my knowledge.
- PH clones are every bit as strong as the ph they are a clone of in most cases. No reason for them not to be. Example: Superdrol was 10 mg; Methyl Drol was 10 mg and it was a clone of it which we stopped making; M-Drol by Competitive Edge is 10 mg...see what I mean?
- If looking for a good Halodrol 50 clone, I would use this one: http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/CE01

[txcrusher]

Thanks guys for the info all is very helpfull im 1 wk into a mass fx and halo-gels stack but looking for the best bulking stack of ph,s for first ph cycle. In about 15 wks