H-Drol P.C.T

[adoyne]

I am about to start a cycle of Fast Action H-drol (4 week cycle)

My P.C.T looks like this so far:

Novedex XT
Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle
Anabolic Xtreme Retains
NOW ZMA
NOW ADAM multi vit
Milk Thistle
Controlled Labs green magnitude
Controlled Labs purple wraath
Controlled Labs glycergrow
100 percent Optimum Whey


I want to know if Novedex is better to take or SNS Inhibit-E

also if you think anything should be added or remove let me know thanks guys

[adoyne]

anyone out there?

[Garzanamos]

I am about to start a cycle of Fast Action H-drol (4 week cycle)

My P.C.T looks like this so far:

Novedex XT
Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle
Anabolic Xtreme Retains
NOW ZMA
NOW ADAM multi vit
Milk Thistle
Controlled Labs green magnitude
Controlled Labs purple wraath
Controlled Labs glycergrow
100 percent Optimum Whey


I want to know if Novedex is better to take or SNS Inhibit-E

also if you think anything should be added or remove let me know thanks guys


Inhibit-E is an estrogen blocker, while novedex is a Test Booster. You should be fine to run both, I'm curently on my 2nd week of a h-drol/prop stack and for pct im running SNS reduce-xt, Inhibit-e, Blue up, and supporting supps milk thistle ect.

[adoyne]

well money plays an issue also but what would you consider the best p.c.t.....i have NOW ADAM multi vit..milk thistle..green mag/purple wraath/glycergrow already..i was thinking of AX perfect cycle/novedex/retain

[adoyne]

dont wanna go over 120...

[Garzanamos]

You should still throw in a anti-estro other than that you should be fine. I went a different way but ended up around the same price. Anyone else have any suggestions??? You might also want to throw in a good NO along with your PCT, just a suggestion:cool:

[adoyne]

Novedex XT or SNS p.c.t of inhibit-e and reduce xt....or novedex xt and inhibit-e for the anti estrogen and naty boost

[Garzanamos]

Novedex XT - Test Booster
Inhibit-E - Estrogen Blocker
Reduce-XT - Cortisal blocker
milk thistle or Perfect cycle - liver support
saw palmetto - prostate support
A good CEE, BCAA, ZMA, multi vit., and whey protein
Also as i mentioned a good NO wouldnt hurt either, EST, VPX or BSN are pretty good

This is how it should look, you should run with the novedex a anti-estro which is what the Inhibit-E is. I wanted to make sure that i have all my angles covered and didnt go with any products that claim to do to many things all with that product. And if you dont want to go with SNS then AX has their own cort. and estro blockers, I believe its Retain and Rebound.

Good luck with your cycle :cool:

[SNS8778]

Inhibit-E is an estrogen blocker, while novedex is a Test Booster. You should be fine to run both, I'm curently on my 2nd week of a h-drol/prop stack and for pct im running SNS reduce-xt, Inhibit-e, Blue up, and supporting supps milk thistle ect.

Inhibit-E is ATD; Novadex contains ATD. Both products are estrogen blockers. Both can help increase natural testosterone somewhat, but I would still suggest another natural test booster be added. At least a good quality Tribulus.

[SNS8778]

My personal PCT would be:
- Anti-E - Inhibit-E
- Cotrisol Suppression - Reduce XT
- Natural test booster - a good quality trib or other options
- Creatine
- Standardized Milk Thistle

In direct reply, protein is a constant. ZMA is fine. The CL products are fine since you already have them. Perfect Cycle would be a fine substitute to my above Milk Thistle inclusion.

[Garzanamos]

Inhibit-E is ATD; Novadex contains ATD. Both products are estrogen blockers. Both can help increase natural testosterone somewhat, but I would still suggest another natural test booster be added. At least a good quality Tribulus.


Im just curious to why add another test booster?? Isn't that what novadex XT is?? or do most people use it as an estro blocker?? I was wondering about this and thats the reason i didnt purchase it

[SNS8778]

Im just curious to why add another test booster?? Isn't that what novadex XT is?? or do most people use it as an estro blocker?? I was wondering about this and thats the reason i didnt purchase it

Novadex XT is an estrogen blocker as is Inhibit-E. Both can raise natural testosterone somewhat, but at same time I still think that a natural testosterone booster should be added.

[Garzanamos]

Thanks for clearing that up for me steve, with my stack i decided to go with SNS's pct stack and with controlled labs Blue up for test booster, i was confused by Novadex's explanation of their product...sometimes too much info can be really confussing

[adoyne]

thanks for all your help but i have been getting shit about being 20 although its 1 year away and i am 6'2 done growing..and h-drol not a powerfull ph like superdrol that i know kids have taken...so in your opinion what you think i should do..a h-drol cycle or something like jw/bam/restor or just a glutamine/creatine/protein stack?

[SNS8778]

Thanks for clearing that up for me steve, with my stack i decided to go with SNS's pct stack and with controlled labs Blue up for test booster, i was confused by Novadex's explanation of their product...sometimes too much info can be really confussing

No problem. Glad I could help. In product write ups, frequently companies want to state all of their products advantages and there is nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Novadex XT and Inhibit-E can both help increase natural testosterone, but that still doesnt mean that a natural test booster shouldnt be added to the PCT.

[SNS8778]

thanks for all your help but i have been getting shit about being 20 although its 1 year away and i am 6'2 done growing..and h-drol not a powerfull ph like superdrol that i know kids have taken...so in your opinion what you think i should do..a h-drol cycle or something like jw/bam/restor or just a glutamine/creatine/protein stack?

I cannot advise against anyone under 21 doing a ph cycle.

I will say this....if you use the logic that you shouldnt do a ph at your age, you also shouldnt do a jw/bam/restore stack either.

You mention protein in a stack context. Protein should be used regardless.

If you decide to go the non-ph route, normally I would say X Factor and CVM Xtreme (but we are reformulating CVM so its hard to find right now), so I would say X Factor and our Creatine E2 caps.

Link for X Factor:http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/MN04
Link for Creatine E2 caps: http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/SN13

[adoyne]

i thought jw/bam/restore not ph's at all just natural anabolics and are fine....i have controlled labs green mag/glycergrow/purple wraath i just wanted to throw in something stronger like a ph or natural anabolic..i heard x-factor best for cutting and you have to buy 2 bottles...which is 100 bucks i feel like you can get more for 100 but if its good for bulking thats different

[SNS8778]

i thought jw/bam/restore not ph's at all just natural anabolics and are fine....i have controlled labs green mag/glycergrow/purple wraath i just wanted to throw in something stronger like a ph or natural anabolic..i heard x-factor best for cutting and you have to buy 2 bottles...which is 100 bucks i feel like you can get more for 100 but if its good for bulking thats different

The logic behind not taking ph's at your age is that your body is most likely already producing plenty of testosterone. That carries over into the logic of no need taking natural test boosters at your age as well.

X Factor is excellent for lean muscle gains. Lean muscle gains are beneficial whether cutting or bulking.