Did I screw up?

[fabfred]

I was on Halodrol/Orastan E for about 15 days. I got injured, broke my foot and fractured my hand at work. I stopped all supplements and training, but didn't do a PCT.

I feel fine............?

I am no newbie to Pro-hormones and know better, but it was a pretty bad and hectic time and let it slide.

I have PCT, should I hit the Novedex as a precaution?

[dinoiii]

15 days is not as likely as significatnt HPTA suppression (verified by labs, not how you feel) tends to take place at about 3-4 weeks. The two supps you mention aren't necessarily the heaviest culprits. Sometimes there is suggestion of AIs to offer more concern...if it were me, I would move on and lick those additional wounds you describe.

I may consider something for a little cortisol control...it is NOT a typical suggestion but your stress level is the biggest concern IMO at this time. DO NOT DECREASE CALORIES despite the likelihood that you will spend more time away from the gym. Caloric deprivation + fractures will send cortisol response through the stratosphere.

When was the injury?

[Brent]

I would suggest taking some Retain.

[fabfred]

My injury date was 10/28. So it has been a while. I have not reduced my calories much ( minus 300 or so calories per day)for fear of losing muscle. I have also kept up my omega 3's and glutamine.

It is really depressing not to be able to do cardio OR lift. I got me some 5-HTP to try to boost my serotonin. I hate to sound so chemical, but I figured it couldn't hurt.

What sucks is that without training and it is the holiday season so I have been straying on my diet. I was at around 205 prior to injury and droped down to 199. My weight is slowly creeping up, 202'ish.

Thanks for advice, motivation, words of encouragement.

BTW the doctor gave me oral methyl predisone(cortizone). It is a 6 day treatment. I haven't taken it because I have read it can make you fat or puffy.

[egodog48]

I like looking puffy, of course I like anything that makesme look bigger

[dinoiii]

My injury date was 10/28. So it has been a while. I have not reduced my calories much ( minus 300 or so calories per day)for fear of losing muscle. I have also kept up my omega 3's and glutamine.

Well, what kind of fractures were they if you are aware?

I am a fan of fish oil (which I am assuming to be your omega-3 source) all the time and glutamine at many different specialty times (this being likely a good choice).

The lack of reduction in calories significantly is likely a good thing...when reducing calories too much, you risk driving up cortisol as well. Immediately post-cycle, you usually run the risk of being hypOadrenal -or- suffering from low cortisol, so the two may have kind of "cancelled each other out." Nice balancing act (intended or otherwise).

avoidance of cortisone provided you can handle it and there is no infection potential was likely a good move as well. corticosteroids are tricky and there use at particular times are not so good...this being one of them. Was your doctor aware of your use of PHs?

[dinoiii]

It is really depressing not to be able to do cardio OR lift. I got me some 5-HTP to try to boost my serotonin. I hate to sound so chemical, but I figured it couldn't hurt.

Don't worry, I get you! ;)

The cardio, while increasing endogenous endorphins, would likely have only driven up your cortisol levels more...this may be a blessing in disguise.

What's your desired rationale for wanting to drive up serotonin???

[fabfred]

The MRI for my hand reads : Metacarpal carpal joint occult fracture of the index finger. The findings portion of the report is a rather long but basically says there is some edema but no dislocation and all tendons and ligaments are good. Some minor tenosynovitis of the extensor tendon to the second digit.

The x-ray report for the foot says I have an Intra-articular fracture of the interphlangeal joint, three pieces, slightly displaced.

I am taking fish oil *burp...yuk* for my omega 3's.

As far as the balancing act, in the infamous words of Erkel... "did I do that?"
I guess I lucked out. But good to know that if I ever run out of PCT all I have to do is break a bone...LOL

I also did not know about the cardio raising cortisol. Good Info.

I have been really bummed out about getting injured. That is why I was hoping to raise my serotonin. Not only was I in pain, I knew I wouldn't be able to work out or do cardio. Additionally I was stressed by workmens comp issues and lack of much needed overtime work as a result of the injury.

Dinoiii you are a scholar and a gentleman.
Thanks to all contributors.