m1d in a pct???

[worm75]

i recently started my p.c.t was wondering about m1-d.... about a year ago i was given 2 bottles of m1d and thought that since it is ment to be a hormonal optimizer, would it make sense to throw it into my p.c.t? i figured why not give it a shot, it cant really hurt i guess... any thoughts on it?

[dinoiii]

There is unfortunately a dearth of information regarding this compound. My answer to your question is that M1D defeats the purpose intended with such efforts (i.e. - correction of potential hormonal disarray - read: the potential for HPTA suppression) and it would better be saved for an alternative cycle versus used during PCT. That's the long and short of it.

A lot of interest likely lies with this set of components in the product:

Hormonal Optimizer
3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-5-ene-17-one 100mg
1,4,6-etioallocholan-dione 4mg
Zinc Asparate 5mg

see the first and second molecules, essentially small modifications of etioallocholan except IMPORTANTLY SO through different metabolic processing pathways ... however, etioallocholan in any sense is a precursor to androsteron, a precursor to testosterone...welcome a true PH class once again...nope, this is NOT a "designer steroid" as is likely suggested but a pro-hormone.

Digression to Basic Definition:
Designer Steroid: Anabolically or androgenically active in the body
Prohormone: Requires conversion to active anabolic/androgenic species

There is only one good article (read: data worth quality interpretation in humans) I am aware of very promising for the second compound BUT it is the more potent of the two first listed cpds. The first molecule is a better known.

You guys are well aware of my opinions on zinc and how I feel it is a completely positive addition to this product (in fact, positive as a year-round addition), however, the intentions of "PCT" (per initial post) would be to restore hormonal order versus continue any supression, so...

Again as I have said in multiple other places on the forum, not a bad compound to stack based on A:A ratios DURING cycle namely, IMO - for better overall strength gains versus body comp as adds suggest. Stacked with a methylated compound is its best bet - their liquid masterdol product seems solid, but there is obviously limited feedback to date.

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[worm75]

so in short, u would say to take it out?? but thanks for responding dinoiii. u are a great help. and should i just throw it into the next cycle that i plan on doing? it will prob be a winni/cutting stack.

[dinoiii]

Yeah, I do think you should take it out of the PCT realm per definition of what PCT in effect is....that being said, I am sorry about the long post above.

Let me know how it works in the next stack as you suggest and what your plans are if you wouldn't mind...I am always curious to watch people's progress!!!

Take Care,
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