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REPIT06
November 23rd, 2006, 02:16 PM
which one would b better i already have a bottle of inhibite E, but was wondering if i should use 6-oxo instead or should i use both?

dinoiii
November 23rd, 2006, 03:51 PM
Are those my only choices?

REPIT06
November 24th, 2006, 12:49 PM
anything for an anti estrogen would be fine. i have everything else and i wont 2 b set on my pct before i start my cycle

JrBirdMan
November 24th, 2006, 04:57 PM
I liked the ATD with I3C. thanks to dino for the I3C.

dinoiii
November 25th, 2006, 03:50 AM
I3C is more estrogen modulation though versus Anti-Estrogen. Does high enough though, shunting down appropriate metabolic pathways would likely bode you well - each year a few studies are published on I3C...while many tend to focus on breast cancer, the same hypothesis could be made surrounding males and PCT time frames.

Newer products are being established daily - the two mentioned in this thread actually have potential to convert to estrogen as well.

There are some natural anti-aromatases etc... I never had a chance to talk about in PCT:ACV but have spoken at length in other posts about....Resveratrol is a good one. The problem is that Resveratrol has also been postulated to STIMULATE breast cancer cell growth, perhaps implying it to have estrogenic components as well (perhaps its phytoestrogen suggestion). Thr tricky thing is no company has really extracted the appropriate portion of the molecule to consider it worthwhile, though some will do a good job convincing you. This would mean that they would have to offer you up the trans isomer of the molecule and they CANNOT per the LAW do this:

"First, trans-Resveratrol is excluded from the definition of a “dietary supplement” under 21 U.S.C. 321 (ff) (3) (B), because it is an article authorized for investigation as a new drug for which substantial clinical investigations have been instituted and made public in the U. S."

"FDA authorized trans-Resveratrol, which is also known as “resveratrol” or 3,5,4’-trihydroxystilbene, to be an Investigational New Drug on January 30, 2001. The Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA) of 1994 defined a “new dietary ingredient” as one that was marketed in the U.S. on or after October 15, 1994. This office does not have any information that indicates that trans-Resveratrol was legally marketed as a dietary ingredient in the U.S. before October 15, 1994."

summary: don't be fooled, right now...we are limited in the supplemental realms. There is a portion of one other product that does interest me, however, I am still running some tests. I will report how it comes back shortly.

rfdiesel
November 29th, 2006, 09:49 AM
ATD seriously messed my libido..but had great gains from my cycle and kept most, so itsa toss up.

ugab3737
November 29th, 2006, 01:47 PM
Go with the Rebound Reloaded if at all possible. ATD nor 6-oxo can touch it in my opinion. Ive used all of them several times and RR is just all around better.

njmuscle66
November 29th, 2006, 02:06 PM
ATD seriously messed my libido..but had great gains from my cycle and kept most, so itsa toss up.


The libido issue was exactly why Rebound Reloaded was brought to the market. You should not have the same issues as before:D