Founder
December 2nd, 2004, 10:23 PM
Methylated Prohormone Summary and Information Guide
I want to be up front in stating that this article is not intended be a scientific article pertaining to methylated prohormones. Articles from a scientific side are widely posted information already from various sources.
Nothing in this article constitutes any type of recommendation whatsoever.
The intent here is to examine the different methylated prohormone products on the market, what they are used for, the dosage ranges, and predominantly, to help consumers decide which methylated products, if any, are right for them.
Keep in mind, as already stated, the information contained in this article is not from a scientific aspect, neither is it necessarily the opinion of the writer, it is based on user feedback.
Categories covered for each respective product &/or ingredient includes:
- A Brief Description
- Common User Feedback
- Dosage Ranges
- Common Stacks
- Product Notes
When examining the dosage ranges for these items, there will be two different types of listings. Here is a synopsis of what they are and what they mean:
- Normal Dosage Range – This category provides information on the dosage range that is normally the recommended dosage by various manufacturers.
- High End Usage – This category reflects the dosage ranges used by some individuals that feel the need to take their dosage levels to the extreme. In doing this, individuals are making a conscious choice to ignore manufacturers recommended dosages and should be willing to accept any risk involved in doing so.
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Methyl 1-Test
Methyl 1-Test is probably the most well known and talked about methylated product on the market. Due to its structure, it has superior oral bioavailability. It is widely stated that Methyl 1-Test has no conversion to estrogen and is up to 1600% as anabolic and up to 220% as androgenic as methyltestosterone.
Common User Feedback:
- Dramatic Muscle Gains (8 to 14 lbs. is not uncommon)
- Dramatic Strength Increases
- Better Pumps
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Various brands recommend between 10 and 20 mg. per day. The amount used for many depends on prior prohormone usage and experience. Many start off with 10 mg. per day for their first cycle, and go up to 20 mg. per day on subsequent cycles.
- High End Usage – There are reports of individuals trying higher doses on this compound, to put it simply, this is not a smart idea and generally should not be done under any circumstance because of the strength of this compound. This is not one to play with.
Common Stacks:
- 4-AD – Many individuals use 600 to 900 mg. daily of 4-AD with Methyl 1-Test
Product Notes:
- A somewhat common feedback while on Methyl 1-Test is feeling lethargic. Many report that by stacking 4-AD and Methyl 1-Test together, they notice less of the lethargic feeling.
- Methyl 1-Test is a very strong compound. It is best that individuals not consume alcohol on this product.
- Many people take Standardized Milk Thistle for liver support while using Methyl 1-Test.
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MOHN - Methyl 4-hydroxyNandrolone
MOHN is becoming a new favorite of many when it comes to supplementing with methylated prohormones. MOHN is an active hormone, it does not require a conversion. It is a nandrolone derivative, however the 4-OH group added inhibits a conversion to DHT or DHN, making this a mildly adrogenic and highly anabolic compound.
This product is becoming extremely popular due to its ability to be used for both bulking and cutting cycles. The average user seems to be looking to gain lean muscle tissue without gaining body-fat and water retention.
Common User Feedback:
- Lean Muscle Gains
- Moderate Strength Gains
- Improved Recovery Time Between Sets and Workouts
- Increased Fat Loss
- Temporary Relief of Joint Pain
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Recommended dosages for this compound generally fall into the 12 to 16 mg. per day range. A common method is to take 16 mg. per day if using it as a stand alone supplement, or to take 12 mg. per day if stacking it with other prohormone compounds.
- High End Usage – There are reports of individuals using as high as 32 mg. per day. This is something that people do at their own risk and that no responsible company should ever recommend to their consumers.
Common Stacks:
For Cutting:
- Methyl-1-Dien
For Bulking:
- M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL) – many individuals stack 30 to 60 mg. M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL) with 8 to 12 mg. of MOHN.
- 4-AD – many individuals stack 600 mg. of 4-AD with 12 to 16 mg. of MOHN.
Product Notes: Typical cycle lengths on MOHN vary from 4 to 6 weeks.
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M1,4ADD - Methyl-BOL
17a methyl-1, 4-Androstadiene-3, 17diol (commonly known as Methyl 1,4ADD or Methyl-BOL), is a methylated version of the boldenone precursor, 1,4diol. In this version, the methylated version of the diol pro-hormone has been used instead of the Dione. This will allow the hormone only direct conversion to its parent hormone, methylboldenone (Methandrostenolone) better known as Dianabol. Since this is a direct precursor to Dianabol, this would obviously be a very good mass builder, imparting gains in size and strength in a very short period of time. Obviously, due to the nature of this product, some individuals may experience fluid retention, similar to milder doses of Dianabol.
Common User Feedback:
- Lean Muscle Gains
- Excellent Strength Gains
- Improved Pumps
- Minimal, if any Fluid Retention
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Recommended dosages on this compound fall between 30 and 90 mg. per day range. A common method is to take 60 - 90 mg. per day if using it as a stand alone supplement, or to take 30 - 60 mg. per day if stacking it with other prohormone compounds.
- High End Usage - There are reports of individuals using as high as 120 mg. and above per day. This is something that people do at their own risk and is definitely excessive.
Common Stacks:
- MOHN – Many individuals stack 8 to 12 mg. of MOHN with 30 to 60 mg. of M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL)
- 4-AD – Many individuals stack 600 mg. of 4-AD with M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL)
Product Notes: Typical cycle lengths on M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL) vary from 4 to 6 weeks
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Methyldienolone - Methyl-D
17a-methyl-17beta-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one, known in the industry as Methyl ‘D’ or Methyl-1-Dien, is structurally related to one of the most potent steroids ever available, methyltrienolone, the methylated bersion of trenbolone. It is highly anabolic, moderately androgenic, and many state that it is unlikely to produce estrogenic side effects.
Products in this category initially experienced a bad rap, simply because the first products that were marketed underestimated what seems to be the effective dosage. Some people discredited this ingredient for good, while others realized excellent results at higher milligram doses.
Common User Feedback:
- Lean Muscle Tissue
- Increased Fat Loss
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – The initial dosage range on this product was 1 to 3 mg. After it was found by many that this dosage was too low to experience dramatic results, 4 to 8 milligrams daily has seemed to become the norm.
- High End Usage – There are reports of individuals using as high as 15 mg. and above per day. This is something that people do at their own risk and is definitely excessive and not advisable.
Common Stacks:
- MOHN – many individuals stack 8 to 12 mg. of MOHN with 4 mg. of Methyl-1-Dein/Methyl ‘D’
Product Notes: Typical cycle lengths vary from 4 to 6 weeks. For most users stacking this compound, a 4 week or less cycle is most common.
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Methyl 4-AD
This is a methylated version of 4-AD. This compound has experienced a surge of popularity with strength athletes and people concerned with total strength gains. This is an extremely strong item, and there is a possibility of DHT and Estrogen conversion. There is a notable absence of negative feedback on side effects being discussed, but the possibility is there.
Common User Feedback:
- Dramatic Strength Gains
- Noticeable Muscle Tissue Gains
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Recommended dosages on this product fall between 60 and 200 mg. per day, with 200 mg. seeming to be the absolute top end.
- High End Usage – No dosage will be expressed here above that of the Normal Dosage Range. This is not an ingredient to be played with and the recommended dosages should not be exceeded under any circumstance.
Common Stacks:
- This is a stand alone item.
Product Notes:
- Do not consume alcohol while taking this ingredient.
- Typical cycle lengths vary from 2 to 4 weeks.
In conclusion, remember that:
- Nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, in this article constitutes any type of recommendation whatsoever.
- Nothing is presented as being scientific. It is simply to help consumers have a summary of information on these items.
- The High End Usage information is not to be replicated. It is provided as an example of to the extent of the extreme dosing that some people take. It is provided to show that individuals do not always adhere to manufacturer’s recommendations, and NEED to take personal responsibility for their actions.
- Prohormones/Prosteroids by nature have the possibility of presenting side effects. Read and heed manufacturer’s warnings, as well as information made available from knowledgeable sources.
- Make educated choices when using prohormone/prosteroid items.
An observation:
Prohormone/Prosteroid items can be very valuable training tools when educated decisions are made on product selection and the items are USED PROPERLY.
We will not have these items around much longer due to the October 8th decision by Congress to ban the sales of these types of product. Congress approved the ban on Friday, October 8th, and the bill must now be signed into law by the President. The industry expects a 90 day grace period to sell these products from the date that the President signs the bill.
From past industry experience, what would be expected is a spike in sales when the ban passes, and then many people will most likely wait until the very end to stock up, hoping to get good deals. From an industry perspective though, many of the products will be gone before the 90 days are up. Neither the manufacturers nor the retailers want to get stuck with items they are unable to sell, so the days to buy these items, especially the more potent methylated products, may come to a close before the end of the grace period (if there is one).
This article may not be replicated or reposted without the express written consent of Rick Riddle
I want to be up front in stating that this article is not intended be a scientific article pertaining to methylated prohormones. Articles from a scientific side are widely posted information already from various sources.
Nothing in this article constitutes any type of recommendation whatsoever.
The intent here is to examine the different methylated prohormone products on the market, what they are used for, the dosage ranges, and predominantly, to help consumers decide which methylated products, if any, are right for them.
Keep in mind, as already stated, the information contained in this article is not from a scientific aspect, neither is it necessarily the opinion of the writer, it is based on user feedback.
Categories covered for each respective product &/or ingredient includes:
- A Brief Description
- Common User Feedback
- Dosage Ranges
- Common Stacks
- Product Notes
When examining the dosage ranges for these items, there will be two different types of listings. Here is a synopsis of what they are and what they mean:
- Normal Dosage Range – This category provides information on the dosage range that is normally the recommended dosage by various manufacturers.
- High End Usage – This category reflects the dosage ranges used by some individuals that feel the need to take their dosage levels to the extreme. In doing this, individuals are making a conscious choice to ignore manufacturers recommended dosages and should be willing to accept any risk involved in doing so.
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Methyl 1-Test
Methyl 1-Test is probably the most well known and talked about methylated product on the market. Due to its structure, it has superior oral bioavailability. It is widely stated that Methyl 1-Test has no conversion to estrogen and is up to 1600% as anabolic and up to 220% as androgenic as methyltestosterone.
Common User Feedback:
- Dramatic Muscle Gains (8 to 14 lbs. is not uncommon)
- Dramatic Strength Increases
- Better Pumps
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Various brands recommend between 10 and 20 mg. per day. The amount used for many depends on prior prohormone usage and experience. Many start off with 10 mg. per day for their first cycle, and go up to 20 mg. per day on subsequent cycles.
- High End Usage – There are reports of individuals trying higher doses on this compound, to put it simply, this is not a smart idea and generally should not be done under any circumstance because of the strength of this compound. This is not one to play with.
Common Stacks:
- 4-AD – Many individuals use 600 to 900 mg. daily of 4-AD with Methyl 1-Test
Product Notes:
- A somewhat common feedback while on Methyl 1-Test is feeling lethargic. Many report that by stacking 4-AD and Methyl 1-Test together, they notice less of the lethargic feeling.
- Methyl 1-Test is a very strong compound. It is best that individuals not consume alcohol on this product.
- Many people take Standardized Milk Thistle for liver support while using Methyl 1-Test.
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MOHN - Methyl 4-hydroxyNandrolone
MOHN is becoming a new favorite of many when it comes to supplementing with methylated prohormones. MOHN is an active hormone, it does not require a conversion. It is a nandrolone derivative, however the 4-OH group added inhibits a conversion to DHT or DHN, making this a mildly adrogenic and highly anabolic compound.
This product is becoming extremely popular due to its ability to be used for both bulking and cutting cycles. The average user seems to be looking to gain lean muscle tissue without gaining body-fat and water retention.
Common User Feedback:
- Lean Muscle Gains
- Moderate Strength Gains
- Improved Recovery Time Between Sets and Workouts
- Increased Fat Loss
- Temporary Relief of Joint Pain
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Recommended dosages for this compound generally fall into the 12 to 16 mg. per day range. A common method is to take 16 mg. per day if using it as a stand alone supplement, or to take 12 mg. per day if stacking it with other prohormone compounds.
- High End Usage – There are reports of individuals using as high as 32 mg. per day. This is something that people do at their own risk and that no responsible company should ever recommend to their consumers.
Common Stacks:
For Cutting:
- Methyl-1-Dien
For Bulking:
- M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL) – many individuals stack 30 to 60 mg. M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL) with 8 to 12 mg. of MOHN.
- 4-AD – many individuals stack 600 mg. of 4-AD with 12 to 16 mg. of MOHN.
Product Notes: Typical cycle lengths on MOHN vary from 4 to 6 weeks.
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M1,4ADD - Methyl-BOL
17a methyl-1, 4-Androstadiene-3, 17diol (commonly known as Methyl 1,4ADD or Methyl-BOL), is a methylated version of the boldenone precursor, 1,4diol. In this version, the methylated version of the diol pro-hormone has been used instead of the Dione. This will allow the hormone only direct conversion to its parent hormone, methylboldenone (Methandrostenolone) better known as Dianabol. Since this is a direct precursor to Dianabol, this would obviously be a very good mass builder, imparting gains in size and strength in a very short period of time. Obviously, due to the nature of this product, some individuals may experience fluid retention, similar to milder doses of Dianabol.
Common User Feedback:
- Lean Muscle Gains
- Excellent Strength Gains
- Improved Pumps
- Minimal, if any Fluid Retention
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Recommended dosages on this compound fall between 30 and 90 mg. per day range. A common method is to take 60 - 90 mg. per day if using it as a stand alone supplement, or to take 30 - 60 mg. per day if stacking it with other prohormone compounds.
- High End Usage - There are reports of individuals using as high as 120 mg. and above per day. This is something that people do at their own risk and is definitely excessive.
Common Stacks:
- MOHN – Many individuals stack 8 to 12 mg. of MOHN with 30 to 60 mg. of M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL)
- 4-AD – Many individuals stack 600 mg. of 4-AD with M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL)
Product Notes: Typical cycle lengths on M1,4ADD (Methyl-BOL) vary from 4 to 6 weeks
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Methyldienolone - Methyl-D
17a-methyl-17beta-hydroxyestra-4,9(10)dien-3-one, known in the industry as Methyl ‘D’ or Methyl-1-Dien, is structurally related to one of the most potent steroids ever available, methyltrienolone, the methylated bersion of trenbolone. It is highly anabolic, moderately androgenic, and many state that it is unlikely to produce estrogenic side effects.
Products in this category initially experienced a bad rap, simply because the first products that were marketed underestimated what seems to be the effective dosage. Some people discredited this ingredient for good, while others realized excellent results at higher milligram doses.
Common User Feedback:
- Lean Muscle Tissue
- Increased Fat Loss
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – The initial dosage range on this product was 1 to 3 mg. After it was found by many that this dosage was too low to experience dramatic results, 4 to 8 milligrams daily has seemed to become the norm.
- High End Usage – There are reports of individuals using as high as 15 mg. and above per day. This is something that people do at their own risk and is definitely excessive and not advisable.
Common Stacks:
- MOHN – many individuals stack 8 to 12 mg. of MOHN with 4 mg. of Methyl-1-Dein/Methyl ‘D’
Product Notes: Typical cycle lengths vary from 4 to 6 weeks. For most users stacking this compound, a 4 week or less cycle is most common.
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Methyl 4-AD
This is a methylated version of 4-AD. This compound has experienced a surge of popularity with strength athletes and people concerned with total strength gains. This is an extremely strong item, and there is a possibility of DHT and Estrogen conversion. There is a notable absence of negative feedback on side effects being discussed, but the possibility is there.
Common User Feedback:
- Dramatic Strength Gains
- Noticeable Muscle Tissue Gains
Dosage Ranges:
- Normal Dosage Range – Recommended dosages on this product fall between 60 and 200 mg. per day, with 200 mg. seeming to be the absolute top end.
- High End Usage – No dosage will be expressed here above that of the Normal Dosage Range. This is not an ingredient to be played with and the recommended dosages should not be exceeded under any circumstance.
Common Stacks:
- This is a stand alone item.
Product Notes:
- Do not consume alcohol while taking this ingredient.
- Typical cycle lengths vary from 2 to 4 weeks.
In conclusion, remember that:
- Nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, in this article constitutes any type of recommendation whatsoever.
- Nothing is presented as being scientific. It is simply to help consumers have a summary of information on these items.
- The High End Usage information is not to be replicated. It is provided as an example of to the extent of the extreme dosing that some people take. It is provided to show that individuals do not always adhere to manufacturer’s recommendations, and NEED to take personal responsibility for their actions.
- Prohormones/Prosteroids by nature have the possibility of presenting side effects. Read and heed manufacturer’s warnings, as well as information made available from knowledgeable sources.
- Make educated choices when using prohormone/prosteroid items.
An observation:
Prohormone/Prosteroid items can be very valuable training tools when educated decisions are made on product selection and the items are USED PROPERLY.
We will not have these items around much longer due to the October 8th decision by Congress to ban the sales of these types of product. Congress approved the ban on Friday, October 8th, and the bill must now be signed into law by the President. The industry expects a 90 day grace period to sell these products from the date that the President signs the bill.
From past industry experience, what would be expected is a spike in sales when the ban passes, and then many people will most likely wait until the very end to stock up, hoping to get good deals. From an industry perspective though, many of the products will be gone before the 90 days are up. Neither the manufacturers nor the retailers want to get stuck with items they are unable to sell, so the days to buy these items, especially the more potent methylated products, may come to a close before the end of the grace period (if there is one).
This article may not be replicated or reposted without the express written consent of Rick Riddle