Phera-vol PCT

[jsn]

I'm gonna do a 3 or 4 week cycle of phera-vol starting at 1 a day increasing to 2 a day. I'll probably stay away from 3 due to my weight. This will be my first ph cycle. At one per day my dose should be taken about an hour pre workout right? And once I up to 2 I should stay at 1 pill spaced atleast 8 hours apart correct?

For pct I have these products avalible: SAMe, milk thistle, hawthorne, mhp multi, blue up, restore, inhibit e, fish oil, saw palmetto, zma gaba.

i'm thinking of starting inhibit e the last week of my cycle until two weeks post and useing blue up for the first two weeks pct then swaping them both for restore. The reason for this is dinoii recommends not stating a cort blocker for 2-3 weeks post cycle. Can I continue either of those while taking restore or will it be sufficent to replace them both?

I will take mhp multi, fish oil, milk thistle, SAMe, saw palmetto, hawthorne throughout both cycle and pct. The zma and gaba i'm undecided on.
I used alpha male and zma for a while but once I added the gaba to my nightly routine I experienced some testicle soreness and some extreme heaviness. Sort of a chemically induced case of blue balls I'm not eager to relive. LOL. Probably not one in particular to blame but a combonation of the three together. However if I had to pick a culprit I would point to the gaba. Anyway are either the zma or gaba nessicary or overly helpful on cycle or for pct? if not I'll probably just skip them.

Please let me know what you think, and of the products I listed (specificly blue up, inhibit e, and restore) do I just follow the dosing on the bottle or do I need more/less due to use for PCT?
I see lots of talk about a serm, Do I need one? If so how would I go about finding one? Thanks!!

[jsn]

Anyone have an opinion?

[solomon1979]

It looks good so far. If legality is a concern, then you could get by without a serm, but that is entirely up to you. ZMA is something I like all the time, but haven't taken for a few weeks now, b/c the one I take has valerian root in it. As far as the GABA induced blueballs, I dunno, never heard of that. If you look at my log in the review section, then you can see a similar PCT plan, b/c I am taking Restore after being on 6-Oxo for ten days. Before my cycle started, I began taking Sam-e and it did improve my mood and well being substantially, so I believe it does have some benefits to its anti depression claim. I took sam-e throughout my cycle and even added milk thistle and phos. choline half way through, but I was running promagnon at above the recommended dosage and for a little longer than normal. I think you could run the blue up immediately post cycle and inhibit-e immediately post cycle. After 10-14 days discontinue inhibit-e and begin restore and continue blue up. This is if you already bought these products, b/c if you haven't, I believe inhibit-e and reduce XT would be cheaper than buying Restore and Inhibit-e. The blue up looks solid IMO, but I'd have to take the stim.-free one., b/c I like coffee. I'm going to have to buy some green bulge and white blood soon, b/c I'm really liking the look of their stuff.

[dinoiii]

I think Solomon has provided you some quality advice.

[jsn]

So your saying I should not start inhibit e the last week of my cycle but wait until my cycle is over. Right?

[solomon1979]

Yes, just wait until the end of you're cycle.

[jsn]

Cool thanks! What should my doseages be per day for:
Milk thistle, SAMe, inhibit e, blue up, restore?
Should I just follow the bottle or should I take more/less of some due to being on cycle or because I'm useing them for pct?

[solomon1979]

Milk Thistle should be 1000mg ed, sam-e @ 400mg ed, inhibit e-3 caps a day for the first 10-14 days, restore-3 caps a day until bottle is completely empty after the 10-14 days of inhibit-e, and blue up should be 2 caps ed. I would hold off on the milk thistle until PCT, b/c the sam-e should be fine, but you would still benefit from the additional liver support. Also make sure you take the blue up even on days that you don't work out. If you're taking the one with caffeine and yohimbe, then just take it in the a.m. on rest days. This looks fairly solid, good luck.

[jsn]

would taking an NO supplement while on cycle increase my results or would it cause extra useless stress on my liver?

[Sonny]

You can. You do want to cycle the NO products so some save it for PCT and run it 4 weeks PCT and another 4 after. Some do it on cycle and PCT. Phera should not give you those painful pumps that SD can give to some. So it is a matter of choice.

[mtcheral]

I'm not seeing the stimulant free blue up here at DA. Am I just missing it or should I look elsewhere? Thanks.

[mtcheral]

Nevermind, I found it. So you guys think a month of Reduce XT(a whole bottle, 3 ed) is needed after 2 weeks of inhibit-e? I'm all about being careful but that's a 6 wk PCT. Do you think 2 weeks inhibit-e then 2 weeks reduce xt would be enough along with blue up the whole 4wks?

[JrBirdMan]

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