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kyle33
October 18th, 2006, 08:36 PM
after a 4 week cycle of H-drol would you recomend anything more than 4 weeks of rebound reloaded would that be enough ?
Week 1 25 mgs
Week 2 25mgs
Week 3 25 mgs
Week 4 25 mgs

should i start anything mid ? and whats best for PCT i was thinking just Rebound Reloaded this is my first PH cycle when i start it whcih prob wont b soon but im just trying to get everything in line now

Tnutz
October 19th, 2006, 06:14 PM
I just got some Anabolic Extreme PCT, liver tabs, flax oil, and mulit-vitamin to follow four weeks of H-drol. I am hoping that will do the trick for me.

kyle33
October 19th, 2006, 06:36 PM
alright let me know how it goes
some one help me out what do u think is the best after 4 weeks of h drol

bigpetefox
October 20th, 2006, 09:17 PM
Take the Anabolic Xtreme product with your flax oil, this will help with absorbsion. Other PCT products worth looking into would be:

Jungle Warfare
Rebound Reloaded
Novedex XT
Restore
ActivaTe
Tribestan
LJ100 (Tonkat Ali)

I believe a SERM is best to start out with, as it acts faster than these..

kyle33
October 22nd, 2006, 10:41 AM
what SERM would you recommend

dinoiii
October 22nd, 2006, 12:35 PM
I am putting out 2 random comments.

(1) A SERM is likely not needed and overzealous on a 4 week cycle of Hdrol monotherapy.

(2) Flax Oil is better left out of ANY post-cycle due to its potential for PRO-estrogenic effects! Replace this item with Fish Oil, Sesame Oil, CLA, and others during this time for better efficacy in T-support.

bigpetefox
October 22nd, 2006, 12:35 PM
Look into these products available for "research"..

toremifene
tamoxifen
clomiphine

I do enjoy posting here, so linking to a site to purchase them is not in the cards.. ;)

kyle33
October 22nd, 2006, 01:09 PM
what about anything over the counter ? would novadex by gaspari do the trick? and im safe enough with rebound by itself ? or maybe inhibit e and rebound xt by sns ?

dinoiii
October 22nd, 2006, 01:12 PM
Again, the assumption here is that a 4-week cycle would cause considerable HPTA suppression which is not likely. Support supps are likely all that is needed. Novedex is fine if it will make you rest easier at night.

kyle33
October 22nd, 2006, 01:18 PM
i know that it is not likely i just wanted to make sure i cover my bases. that you i will just use Rebound Reloaded that should be fine if not tell me other wise

dinoiii
October 22nd, 2006, 01:44 PM
I can certainly appreciate your concern Kyle33. Good Lord, who would want to see any such side effect potential.

I really do think that you will be "fine" (as defined by me - no estrogenic sides, based on BOTH particular compound you describe as well as hormonal outlay during most PCT's that follow monotherapy in short-burst fashion -- i.e. - what you are describing 3-4 weeks -- see PCT: ACV series in Open Articles section for more if unsure what I mean).

kyle33
October 22nd, 2006, 03:17 PM
Thanks for your help

jdee297
October 26th, 2006, 09:07 PM
I did a 4 week haladrol-50 with novedex xt starting on the 3rd week like they recomend but it seems to me that my test levels are still not in balance. Im about 3 weeks off of everything and my sex drive is very low compaired to me alwasy want it like every minute of the day befor i started any cylcle.

does n e one have any recomendations becuse im thinking of takeing the other bottle of novedex xt to see if that helps.

i really hate how this is affecting my sex life with my girlfiend!!!!

dinoiii
October 27th, 2006, 09:05 AM
Any other info you could supply? (Other parameters of cycle and post-cycle comparatively - many think that post-cycle, ala this forum's heading is ONLY about what pill I can take to get me back in line)

I still don't necessarily think this is 100% suggestive of low T per se.

jdee297
October 27th, 2006, 11:33 PM
im not sure what else to say accept that ill be 21 in a few months and that im 5ft 11inch and wiegh 170 lbs on average. I really had no sides from the halodrol-50 and i never had any medical problems befor. i had blood tests befor i started the cycle and there was nothing to report. It could all be in my head but it just seems that my sex drive is not there. id like to know if any one else has had similar affects on them.

and i did start taking more novedex xt becuase im thinking 4 weeks was just not long enough to bounce back so ill give it another 2 weeks and see what that does. if things dont return to normal in like 4 to 6 weeks im going to go get a check up and ask the doc some questions

the stack was
week 1 = 1 haladrol-50 tab a day at 4pm
week 2 = same as week 1
week 3 = 1 haladrol-50 at 4pm and 3 novedex xt befor bed
week 4 = 1 haladrol-50 at 4pm and 4 novedex xt befor bed
week 5 = 4 novedex xt befor bed
week 6 = 3 novedex xt untill i got low then around wed or thurs i went to 2 befor bed\

i used whey protien and i drank a but load of water at work.
also take gnc mens vitamins

thats about it

dinoiii
October 28th, 2006, 09:33 AM
If you are solely judging this by low sex drive (true deviation from baseline - pre-cycle desire, et al), perhaps looking into a Eurycoma-based product versus ATD would be of more benefit.

jdee297
October 28th, 2006, 10:14 AM
thanks alot for the info

what would be a good example of a product that could help becuase im not sure what to look for.

i have no clue on the differnece of a atd or a eurycoma lol

and i plan on eventually reading all of ur pct articals i just havent really gotten the time to do so

dinoiii
October 28th, 2006, 10:37 AM
Don't sweat the PCT articles, hell - there is quite a bit of info (namely, a book)...when you get to it, I hope you find many of your answers. In the meantime - I will attempt to field as many questions as I can individually.

A few product examples include:

Biotest's Alpha Male
Biotest's Red Kat (though I am not sure if this product is still available readily)
Axis Lab's HyperTEST
BSN's Axis HT (not a huge concentration of Eurycoma in this product though)
Controlled Labs' Blue Up
iSatori Isa-Test
Palto Alto Labs' Paravol
Nutrablics HydroTest

jdee297
October 29th, 2006, 01:08 AM
thanks so much for the info ill do a little digging but accually since the first post i did im starting to feel a little more normal so ill see how the next 2 or 3 weeks are and if the problme sticks ill try something else

thanks again and your a smart guy wich is nice because it seems there are more and more dumb asses out there lol