Rookie help..???***

[jbvic15]

Well lets see, Ive worked out off and on the past 5 yrs decently but just the past 5 months Ive been really hitting it hard. I started off just taking CE2, then my friend got me started on a diet plan where I was eating ^protein and low fat yet that didnt work because I need to be bulking up, not slimming down. So I started a weight gain diet where I would be intaking 3600 calories a day with other specifics like carbs, fat, and proteins etc etc yet honestly that was just too many meals and I dont have that much time so as of now I am just on a good diet and taking protein shakes before and after I work out. Gains in strength have never been an issue, its more adding bulk...which im sure everyone has trouble with but I stand at 6' 1'' 170lb. and Im looking for something to take thats ACTUALLY going to get me where Ive wanted to be for quite some time. Some of my friends have taken roids and if I knew one cycle was harmless I might do that but it seems kinda a cheap way to go....but arent all supplements? Ha, anyways....Im looking for ideas on something that will honestly work?? Maybe Ive gone about this the wrong way....any help at all to lead me in the right direction would be great. Someones mentioned Superdrol? Is that legit?

[shuttaLCD]

Well honestly Supps. can only do so much. If you dont eat enough cals. or the right foods you wont see much results. Its just part of this game man. You gotta eat..I think that you have more to gain naturally yet so i would hold off on the AAS/PH's (like SDrol).. a good protein and Creatine (N.O. if you like these)

Good supplements (unbiased)

S.N.S CVM Xtreme - contains a very nice combo of N.O. products and Creatine
http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/SN12

if you like the pills better the E2 Matrix is nice

http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/SN11

this also contains N.O. and Creatine. I personally would go with the CVM.

a good protein that i personally use is Dymatize Elite Whey just about all of their flavors are tastey..

Syntrax Swole V2 is another nice prod. as well..


best of luck man!.. Please ask if you have any further questions.
-Colin

[Clickster]

Well honestly Supps. can only do so much. If you dont eat enough cals. or the right foods you wont see much results. Its just part of this game man. You gotta eat..I think that you have more to gain naturally yet so i would hold off on the AAS/PH's (like SDrol).. a good protein and Creatine (N.O. if you like these)

Good supplements (unbiased)

S.N.S CVM Xtreme - contains a very nice combo of N.O. products and Creatine
http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/SN12

if you like the pills better the E2 Matrix is nice

http://www.discountanabolics.com/p/SN11

this also contains N.O. and Creatine. I personally would go with the CVM.

a good protein that i personally use is Dymatize Elite Whey just about all of their flavors are tastey..

Syntrax Swole V2 is another nice prod. as well..


best of luck man!.. Please ask if you have any further questions.
-Colin


That is very good advice.

[Drewsrp]

Used the Dymatize protein and absolutely loved the taste, I'm currently using ON 100% Gold...it has alot for stuff in it but doesn't taste near as good. N.O. xplode is very good for pre workout, I only use 1 scoop. I'm currently not taking any creatine because I don't want to retain any water.

[shuttaLCD]

Used the Dymatize protein and absolutely loved the taste, I'm currently using ON 100% Gold...it has alot for stuff in it but doesn't taste near as good. N.O. xplode is very good for pre workout, I only use 1 scoop. I'm currently not taking any creatine because I don't want to retain any water.


Have you tried a CEE? Creatine Ethyl Ester? Alot of people say that they dont retain water with this type of creatine.. I personally dont..

-Shutta

[Trans_Isomer]

I'm currently not taking any creatine because I don't want to retain any water.

Why is this a bad thing? Cellular swelling can cause protein synthesis along with a host of other various beneficial processes.

[dinoiii]

Jb_V
hey man, welcome to the forum...sometimes our biggest asset provided we are not going an anabolic route is to actually bump up and not cut out fat which serves as the precursor for many of our various endogenous hormonal output.

You mention that you are looking for something that's going to actually get you where you want to be - where exactly is that? Its hard for me to suggest something like Superdrol without really knowing a lot. In addition, you make it seem like diet is very hard for you to follow at this time. It is just a suggestion, but something like PH do require some diet work for optimal cycles and it may better be left until you can figure out how to make diet work. Again, I am not trying to disuade your decision - but it is something you may want to think about.

Again, with respect to diet...
I know you have suggested your limitations, but what exactly are we working with here - I mean, are you able to post a regular diet example (with an understanding that it cannot be modified too much). I personally like to give diet advice because I most accurately feel supplements to do just that "supplement" a diet - so having a feel with what I am working with may provide a launching pad for the most optimal advice.

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Just an aside - no one really needs to read this but trans...

My goodness trans - when did you graduate to an ethyl ester? ;)

As an aside, I caught your email....all of it is coming, you just gotta bear with me like 20 days or so - I know...kinda weird but true - October I will be back full swing in October.

[Trans_Isomer]

Just an aside - no one really needs to read this but trans...

My goodness trans - when did you graduate to an ethyl ester? ;)

As an aside, I caught your email....all of it is coming, you just gotta bear with me like 20 days or so - I know...kinda weird but true - October I will be back full swing in October.

Hey no prob, just wasnt sure if it was acting up since I hadnt received word from you back.

Oh and the ethyl ester... I dont know.. but sounds cool right? :D

[dinoiii]

Oh and the ethyl ester... I dont know.. but sounds cool right? :D

Don't know ... it seems you need like a

hydroxy-methyl-delta-etioallocholane-delta-2-ene-17-b-ol-4-disulfide component or something.