HI guys new to the forum!cutting stack

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

hi guys im new to the forum.ive been training in MMA for acouple of months now.i need to lose 30 pounds.i am very sensitive to caffeine and stimulants.do you guys have any suggestions about what a good weight loss stack would be without the jitters?i appreciate any advice .thanks!

[B-natural]

Been fightin MMA an need to cut that much weight now? what were they havin ya do? an how long do u have to cut the weight?

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

im not planning to compete for a while.i need to lose weight for health benefits.i have diabetes.im overweight so im looking for some supplements to lose weight (non-stimulants).

[B-natural]

diabetic? thats harsh man, i can't recommend anything, don't want to have u takin stuff detrimental to yer health

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

yeah i have to be careful with what supplements i take.I do take citrulline malate,bcaa's,ergopharms all in one (sugar free) and i just started using CVM EXTREME (sugar free).glutamine and a multi -vitamin.ive asked doctors what to take and they are clueless.now i just wanted to shed some pounds within the next couple of months.so im looking for some non stimulant fat burners.

[NemisisX7]

melting point+ NO-Xplode. I got my buddy on it and he loves it. He's droppin weight to compete in mma and i'm gainin lol. what do you usually train in?

[dinoiii]

Hey there - welcome to the forum. Not sure what your diet looks like which would be of utmost importance - considering insulin regulation (I am assuming you are a Type II?).

In addition, what meds do you take (oral hypoglycemics, insulin, etc...)?



I understand the pertinence of privacy in certain health matters so if you'd like to steer clear of the public forum, questions in this regard can be directed to:
absivs_revenge@hotmail.com

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

Hey there - welcome to the forum. Not sure what your diet looks like which would be of utmost importance - considering insulin regulation (I am assuming you are a Type II?).

In addition, what meds do you take (oral hypoglycemics, insulin, etc...)?



I understand the pertinence of privacy in certain health matters so if you'd like to steer clear of the public forum, questions in this regard can be directed to:
absivs_revenge@hotmail.com
i take glucatrol twice daily.my diet has not been too good either.i seem to be hungry at night all the time.

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

melting point+ NO-Xplode. I got my buddy on it and he loves it. He's droppin weight to compete in mma and i'm gainin lol. what do you usually train in?
i tried no-explode a couple of times .i was bouncing off the walls.lol.im using SNS CVM EXTREME right now .does melting point give you the jitters?ive been training in muay thai and a little of jiu -jitsu.the extra weight is making me gas out too quickly.

[NemisisX7]

Right on. I've been doin muay thai on and off for a few years. Melting Point doesnt use stims. Hydroxycut Hardcore is cool but it can give jitters and messes with your head. Most weight loss pills can. Melting Point is like Sesaglow by CL and Sesamax by Axis. Sesamin is good for weight loss but it can take a little while to see a big change. The caffein in the NO helps too. Drink green tea as well and someone else mentioned keep your diet good and clean.

[Dizzle1]

hi guys im new to the forum.ive been training in MMA for acouple of months now.i need to lose 30 pounds.i am very sensitive to caffeine and stimulants.do you guys have any suggestions about what a good weight loss stack would be without the jitters?i appreciate any advice .thanks!
First off your training should be cutting weight pretty quick off your body. I'm not sure your routine and what you pratice ,but when I was doing the stuff 4-5 days a week I would lose weight ,and be eating huge amounts of food, and still be pretty lean.I trained to fight once, and have been in and out of mma for the last 10 years, I've tried everything, but you should be pretty slim if you're training hard , look at your diet first, you should be eating very clean if you want to take this serious and s you should. I hope you know what you are getting into ,a lot of people say oh I can do that or I could kick his ass, but when you go head to head w/ somethng it is a whole different story when it's full contact and all you have is a mouth piece and some light gloves. I think one of the best guys to follow is Randy Couture, check this out.

The Randy Couture Diet
Notes from “The Natural”

Over the past two years there has been a lot of interest in the nutritional program I used to come down from the Heavyweight division and compete in the light heavyweight division. A special thanks to Joe Rogan for bringing up the greens in the UFC 44 vs. Tito Ortiz broadcast.

Although most folks never have to fight in a cage for 25 minutes. The can use these same principles to enhance the quality f their lives by improving endurance, performance and health. It is well known that certain foods have either an acid or alkaline effect on the body. Animal products, sugar, dairy and processed grains are all acid forming foods, while vegetables, especially green leafy vegetables are alkaline. Since the stress of training is also acid forming, my primary goal is to reduce the amount of acid build up in my body.

Our bodies regulate the pH of our blood and tissues closer than it regulates body temperature. We must maintain a slightly alkaline pH to survive. Hard training, stress, high protein or high sugar diets can cause build up o acid. While there are mechanisms in place to deal with this acid (it’s a natural by product). When there is an overload, peak performance and health will often suffer.

Three main areas I focus on in preparation for my fights.

First is to increase the amount of energy rich live foods, in Vegas there is usually a trip to Whole foods to make sure I could continue right up to fight night. After making weight, I had a large green drink and lots of raw spinach and other greens.

Second is to decrease the amount of acid forming foods while making sure I am still getting all the nutrients I need. This includes reducing red meat and chicken and eating more fish, almonds and some beans. All dairy is eliminated as well.

The final component is to provide proper nutritional supplementation. I eliminated one of my carbohydrate replacement drinks and a few energy bars due to their high sugar content. Light Force greens are used daily along with some Flaxseed oil.

By including more alkaline foods into my diet and reducing acid forming foods, I felt better and experienced more energy. Believe it or not, I did not get tired at all in my five round fight with Tito. This is a testament not only to proper nutrition but also to understanding and applying the correct training principles so I was able to peak at the right time.

My diet includes green vegetables with each meal. Almost every morning begins with fresh vegetables and an alkalizing Light Force green drink. Grilled fish, soba noodles, high energy pancakes, wheat grass shots, and fresh vegetables and Avocados on yeast free toast are also on the menu.

Here are a few things to try:

-Start your day several times a week with fresh or lightly steamed veggies. Cucumber, broccoli, green peppers, spinach, kale… Eat again when you get hungry or at least include the greens with whatever you’re going to eat for bre4akfast. I prefer to spread hummus on my veggies to help them go down better.

-Reduce the amount of red meat and poultry. If you do want to eat them, get them from an organic source. There are some great books written on how unhealthy the meat is in the country. Don’t sweat the protein issue, you need less than you may think. Eat almonds (which are very alkaline) and other nuts, seeds, and fish.

-Drink lots of water. You may need to drink around a gallon a day. Everyone is different and it depends on a number of factors from training to temperature.

-Include water rich foods with each meal. Back to the live foods again.
Eliminate as much sugar from your diet as possible. Read labels, you’d be surprised where you’d find it. Soda is a major source and my hurt your conditioning.

-Add an alkalizing greens supplement to your water a few times a day. I use Light Force which is for sale at randycouture.tv or tqfc.com.


This is my nutritional program in a nutshell (no pun intended)! I try to maintain this better than 80% of the time, and it gets especially strict in the peaking phase 10 weeks before I fight. A special thanks goes out to Dr. Ryan Parsons, who not only developed the Light Force supplement, but has generously provided me with support in the way of nutritional advice, chiropractic care, and sports massage as well as friendship. I sincerely hope that you gain as much as I have from this knowledge. Best of luck!

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

Hey Dizzle thanks for the info.ive been doing the MMA 2-3 X a week.but like I said i havent been eating too healthy.im also hungry late at night .i will try to change my diet drastically.i really need to lose weight to help control the diabetes.

[dinoiii]

The big issue you will have following someone else's diet is that it doesn't apply to your particular health status (i.e. - Diabetes).

Has your Glucotrol (reg or XL?) controlled your blood sugars well? Personally, I don't care for the Sulfonuylurea group of drugs like that for my patients since the evolution of weight-reduction agents like Byetta (however, it is an injection. You may choose to inquire with your physician about it - it may not be covered adequately by your insurance in its infancy of availability though).

Do you know either your latest Hemoglobin A1c level or do you take your blood sugars at home?

As far as your nighttime hunger pangs....when is the last time you eat prior to bed and is that you get up in the middle of the night or that you are sleeping but just feel you should not go to bed hungry, etc...?

You could in theory be suffering from hypOglycemia (low blood sugar levels) during the night if your glucose is not controlled adeuately.

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

The big issue you will have following someone else's diet is that it doesn't apply to your particular health status (i.e. - Diabetes).

Has your Glucotrol (reg or XL?) controlled your blood sugars well? Personally, I don't care for the Sulfonuylurea group of drugs like that for my patients since the evolution of weight-reduction agents like Byetta (however, it is an injection. You may choose to inquire with your physician about it - it may not be covered adequately by your insurance in its infancy of availability though).

Do you know either your latest Hemoglobin A1c level or do you take your blood sugars at home?

As far as your nighttime hunger pangs....when is the last time you eat prior to bed and is that you get up in the middle of the night or that you are sleeping but just feel you should not go to bed hungry, etc...?

You could in theory be suffering from hypOglycemia (low blood sugar levels) during the night if your glucose is not controlled adeuately.
the glucotrol is working alright.i did hear about byetta and asked 2 doctors.they never gave it to anyone so they were really hesitant to give it to me.i wouldnt mind trying it.i also tried other like diabetta ,actos,glucaphage and they all gave me side effects.i think its a bad habit eating late but i always wake up hungry in the middle of the night.when i test my sugar it is usually high in the morning.

[dinoiii]

This may sound strange, but if you can do it, it may get to the bottom of your situation.

Set an alarm for 3:00am and get up and take your blood sugar.

If it is low, you have confirmed my suspicion despite the fact that it may IN FACT and likely is HIGH by the time you take it in the AM. This is a sign that your medication needs to be changed.

If it is high, this is a sign that your medication too needs to be changed.





As far as Byetta is concerned, I would push harder with your physicians (it may be a "life-saver" so to speak) - there is a side effect of nausea for the first couple days, but it tends to go away with use. We are seeing great success with it in the office.

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

This may sound strange, but if you can do it, it may get to the bottom of your situation.

Set an alarm for 3:00am and get up and take your blood sugar.

If it is low, you have confirmed my suspicion despite the fact that it may IN FACT and likely is HIGH by the time you take it in the AM. This is a sign that your medication needs to be changed.

If it is high, this is a sign that your medication too needs to be changed.





As far as Byetta is concerned, I would push harder with your physicians (it may be a "life-saver" so to speak) - there is a side effect of nausea for the first couple days, but it tends to go away with use. We are seeing great success with it in the office.
yes i will try this out.thanks for the advice.i would really like to try the byetta.are there any dangerous side effects?

[dinoiii]

Because it is very new to the market, I can only offer what has come out of the research and a bunch of patients I have experience with plus case-report and the early word is a very short-lived nausea, otherwise side effects have not been suggested in great detail.


I would be curious to learn of your over night glucose levels if you care to share them.

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

Because it is very new to the market, I can only offer what has come out of the research and a bunch of patients I have experience with plus case-report and the early word is a very short-lived nausea, otherwise side effects have not been suggested in great detail.


I would be curious to learn of your over night glucose levels if you care to share them. hi sorry ive been busy.i took my sugar tonight after sleeping for 4 hours and my sugar was 213.during the day though i have noticed my sugar to be around 116.especially when i dont eat bread.im trying to avoid it.

[razore22]

I fight mma when I'm not out saving the world, the best meathod I use for cutting weight is eat small meals every three hours, and if you a fighter your best friend is a sanna. Good luck man

[NUJACKTERMINATOR]

thanks alot good luck to you too.i tend to eat too much at one time.especially at night.im trying to change these habits.hopefully training and eating better will help.