Milk Thistle vs SAMe

[Easton]

I want to take a liver protectant on my next cycle. I keep reading about both Milk Thistle and SAMe...which should I focus on using? Also, I assume I would need to use during cycle and during PCT? I have also read about preloading...

Any info on dosages would be great...

[snakemw]

use SAM-e. i cant remember the dosage i used but it was what Dinoiii recommended in his PCT article. if you have not read those i suggest you do that they are full of info.

[Dizzle1]

I want to take a liver protectant on my next cycle. I keep reading about both Milk Thistle and SAMe...which should I focus on using? Also, I assume I would need to use during cycle and during PCT? I have also read about preloading...

Any info on dosages would be great...
I am currently taking 400 mg of SAM-E to combat some liver issues, I believe dinoiii had a mention of this in his PCT threas,but i ran it by him and he said cool at the dose I'm at. I think running both is a good idea. The milk thistle I ran 3 pills spaced per day.

[dinoiii]

Following up:

Just remember that SAMe is supplied in various forms and do NOT forget to take into consideration the need for a stabilizing molecule.

let's say as Dizzle has suggested you are seeing a product list 400mg - likely only 200 of it is from SAMe while the remainder comes from a stabilizer. I talk about this in the articles (direction: PCT: ACV II and III specifically under "hepatoprotectants" section) as they have suggested in a lot more depth.

[Clickster]

I like SAMe, but Milk Thistle in my opinion is your "core" liver protecting agent.

My order of preference:
Milk Thistle
NAC
SAMe

Recomendation: All 3 of them together.

[dinoiii]

Just so everyone is clear though,
Milk Thistle is not without its own share of woes.

Most in a third-party testing scenario didn't meet label claims on standardization of silymarin etc...





Side Note:
I too, have not suggested to not use other items Click (namely Milk Thistle vs. NAC, the latter of which has been applied wrong orally) - in fact, I think there is some worthwhile data - presented in PCT:ACV II and III.

[Clickster]

I have experienced "break outs" and rashes due to what I have blamed on the Milk Thistle.

[dinoiii]

Really, as in acne when you speak of breakouts or just the rashes?

I ask about the acne because if we are talking strictly PCT time frame, your body's endogenous hormonal generation could contribute to an acneiform breakout.

[matt16]

funny you say you breakout from milk thistle. I kept breaking out pre cycle from that crap. I didnt think it would cause that

[Clickster]

Really, as in acne when you speak of breakouts or just the rashes?

I ask about the acne because if we are talking strictly PCT time frame, your body's endogenous hormonal generation could contribute to an acneiform breakout.


Rashes, would be all over my wrists and arms.

[fromkrypton]

Call me crazy, but I take SAMe, milk thistle, and Liv.52 Double Strength. Probably overkill, but I love my liver.