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tek
August 7th, 2006, 11:12 PM
Rebound XT ? what else ?? thinking about trying Methyl-Drol.

UNCfan1
August 7th, 2006, 11:23 PM
You will get alot of different answers. Read Dinoii's PCT articles is great to find some soild info on PCT. But anyway, rebound is good, u need something for ur liver SAMe seems to be the best, IC3, DIM gets thumbs up, Inhibit-E and Gaspari Novedex Xt are great ATD's.

Checklist:
SAMe or Milk Thistle- liver aide
ATD- Inhibit-E or Novedex XT
Anti-Estrogen- IC3 or DIM
Blood Pressure- CoQ10
Antioxidants-L-carnitine, ALA, and ACES
Prostate- Saw Palmetto
Nat Test Boost- ZMA and Trib

DeL
August 7th, 2006, 11:40 PM
Checklist:
SAMe or Milk Thistle- liver aide
ATD- Inhibit-E or Novedex XT
Anti-Estrogen- IC3 or DIM
Blood Pressure- CoQ10
Antioxidants-L-carnitine, ALA, and ACES
Prostate- Saw Palmetto
Nat Test Boost- ZMA and Trib


Thanks for this checklist but are they to be taken seperately or all while on cycle pre-during-post? I am interested as well...Planning on a Methyl 1A cycle. Thanks!

tek
August 7th, 2006, 11:46 PM
sweet thanks bro :)

UNCfan1
August 7th, 2006, 11:48 PM
Thanks for this checklist but are they to be taken seperately or all while on cycle pre-during-post? I am interested as well...Planning on a Methyl 1A cycle. Thanks!

Checklist:
SAMe or Milk Thistle- liver aide- pre and post
ATD- Inhibit-E or Novedex XT-post
Anti-Estrogen- IC3 or DIM-post
Blood Pressure- CoQ10-pre adn post
Antioxidants-L-carnitine, ALA, and ACES-pre, during and post
Prostate- Saw Palmetto-pre and post
Nat Test Boost- ZMA and Trib-pre and post

Now with the Anti-Estrogens and ATD, they work differently I believe not real sure Dinoii could chime in and help, or u could go here-http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2076

UNCfan1
August 7th, 2006, 11:49 PM
Now it will work for me-
http://www.discountanabolics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2076

DeL
August 7th, 2006, 11:53 PM
Thanks UNCfan1..It's a lot to read but a must read.

UNCfan1
August 7th, 2006, 11:55 PM
Honestly I never knew what PCT was until I got on here, first cycle I ran was Pinnacles Andro Poppers and like a fool I took them longer than I should have, I was too young on top of that, anyway glad I could help, but Dinoii has the science down on all of that stuff, I know what to take and why but can't explain it u know what I mean.

tek
August 8th, 2006, 12:08 AM
hey UNC, Tribulus is Natural Test Boost right. it really doest Supress ur Test am i correct ?? just helps keep it normal levels ??

UNCfan1
August 8th, 2006, 12:09 AM
It boosts it some not sure how much though, no it doesn't suppress it at all.

tek
August 8th, 2006, 12:15 AM
ok i see. so it doest matter how long i take it for. been taking it for like 4-5wks or so. something i want crash when stop taking ??

UNCfan1
August 8th, 2006, 12:26 AM
right u'll be fine when u stop using it.

jakedown
August 8th, 2006, 08:28 AM
hey unc im running a cycle of methyl-drol right now and am taking the milk thistle durring cycle is that okay as well or should i only be traking it post cycle ?

UNCfan1
August 8th, 2006, 12:00 PM
Its ok to take while on, most would not. Its not going to affect ur gains.

Clickster
August 15th, 2006, 10:00 PM
CLICKSTER'S PCT CHECKLIST

Liver Aid: Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle & SAMe
Blood Pressure: Hawthorn Berry
Prostate Aid: Saw Palmetto
Anti Estrogen: Serious Nutrition Solutions Inhibit-E
Antioxidants: L-carnitine
Testosterone Enhancer: Dymatize Z-Force (ZMA) & SAN Endotest-PRO
Cell Volumizer: Serious Nutrition Solutions CVM Xtreme
NO/Arginine Enhancer: Serious Nutrition Solutions Arginine E2 Matrix
Anti Cortisol: Serious Nutrition Solutions Reduce XT

-This is my reccomendations of a very good PCT along with exact products that I perfer. This is just my opinion, some may feel differently.

UNCfan1
August 15th, 2006, 10:01 PM
CLICKSTER'S PCT CHECKLIST

Liver Aid: Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle & SAMe
Blood Pressure: Hawthorn Berry
Prostate Aid: Saw Palmetto
Anti Estrogen: Serious Nutrition Solutions Inhibit-E
Antioxidants: L-carnitine
Testosterone Enhancer: Dymatize Z-Force (ZMA) & SAN Endotest-PRO
Cell Volumizer: Serious Nutrition Solutions CVM Xtreme
NO/Arginine Enhancer: Serious Nutrition Solutions Arginine E2 Matrix


-This is my reccomendations of a very good PCT along with exact products that I perfer. This is just my opinion, some may feel differently.

I don't it could any better than this.

Clickster
August 15th, 2006, 10:06 PM
I just added my anti-cortisol product to the list, can't forget that.

UNCfan1
August 15th, 2006, 10:08 PM
Right on I forgot that. You may want to think about taking something for joint pain. I had a little discomfort, nothing major. Just something to consider if they start to hurt alittle.

Clickster
August 15th, 2006, 10:09 PM
Yeah, I also like to take some GABA + Magnesium before bed with the ZMA.

But that is just me.

UNCfan1
August 15th, 2006, 10:11 PM
I am going to have to check into Gaba and melatonin for sleep aides, I have trouble getting a good nights rest.

DeL
August 16th, 2006, 01:05 AM
CLICKSTER'S PCT CHECKLIST

Liver Aid: Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle & SAMe
Blood Pressure: Hawthorn Berry
Prostate Aid: Saw Palmetto
Anti Estrogen: Serious Nutrition Solutions Inhibit-E
Antioxidants: L-carnitine
Testosterone Enhancer: Dymatize Z-Force (ZMA) & SAN Endotest-PRO
Cell Volumizer: Serious Nutrition Solutions CVM Xtreme
NO/Arginine Enhancer: Serious Nutrition Solutions Arginine E2 Matrix
Anti Cortisol: Serious Nutrition Solutions Reduce XT

-This is my reccomendations of a very good PCT along with exact products that I perfer. This is just my opinion, some may feel differently.


Hey Clickster,

Just curious as to the amount you take on these? Also for the GABA + Magnesium? Thanks.

Clickster
August 16th, 2006, 01:48 AM
Hey Clickster,

Just curious as to the amount you take on these? Also for the GABA + Magnesium? Thanks.

Liver Aid: Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle & SAMe - Reccomended Dosage
Blood Pressure: Hawthorn Berry - Reccomended Dosage (start 1 week before cycle)(could go to a half more than the rec. dosage)
Prostate Aid: Saw Palmetto - Reccomended Dosage (start 1 week before cycle)(could go to a half more than the rec. dosage)
Anti Estrogen: Serious Nutrition Solutions Inhibit-E - PCT: Week1:75mg,Week2:75mg,Week3:50mg,Week4:25mg
Antioxidants: L-carnitine - Reccomended Dosage
Testosterone Enhancer: Dymatize Z-Force (ZMA) & SAN Endotest-PRO - Reccomended Dosage
Cell Volumizer: Serious Nutrition Solutions CVM Xtreme - Reccomended Dosage
NO/Arginine Enhancer: Serious Nutrition Solutions Arginine E2 Matrix - Reccomended Dosage
Anti Cortisol: Serious Nutrition Solutions Reduce XT - Reccomended Dosage (Not needed until 3rd week of PCT.)
GABA - 3-5g (start out with 3)(before bed)
Magnesium - 250mg (before bed)
Vitamin C - 3g total (1G 3 x a day)

-A little hard to read I know, but I hope this helps.


---~~LET ME MAKE SURE I MAKE THIS CLEAR~~---
-This is just MY opinion, it may be different from someone elses.

DeL
August 16th, 2006, 02:09 AM
IMO Looks great. Planning on a M1A PH cycle soon and what concerns me most is the Post Cycle. I have been reading and reading as much on it as possible and getting advice from the forum, and I have a PCT close to yours but I like the extra supps you have in there. I Really appreciate the reply.