i'd like to start a cycle ... what to take as a beginner?

[slimwarrior]

I am 25 and I have been training for 3 years . I'd like to get some anabolics, but I'm afraid of the side effects so I'd like to try something relatively "safe"... some advice is needed
thank you :)

[zombull]

Phera-Plex would be my suggestion first time out but several people like Prostanozol wich is not methylated.

[Sonny]

I am 25 and I have been training for 3 years . I'd like to get some anabolics, but I'm afraid of the side effects so I'd like to try something relatively "safe"... some advice is needed
thank you :)

Well the relatively safe ph's (since you posted in the prohormone section) are the non-methylated ones. And in my opinion, they are not that special solo. This is not to say they are worthless but may not be worth the mental anguish for you-unless I have overestimated your concern, which is a valid one.

Have you tried/considered products like CEE, arginine-NO, X-factor, etc. Many report nice gains.

[slimwarrior]

thank you, which is the difference between methylated and non-methylated ones?

I posted my question in pro-hormones since I think they are safer and it's easier to get them, is this the case?

I am obviously concerned about my health but not eccessively, i.e. I'd like to take something that will help me pack muscle visibly faster ...without serious side effects

I'm already taking vitamins, omega3 and 6 oils, whey protein and creatine, but I 'd like to try some prohormones or steroids to see the difference between "normal" supplements and hormonal ones )

what is the difference from steroids, anyway?
what do you mean by "mental anguish"? sound bizzarre:)
thank you a lot for your help!

[Clickster]

I think Halodrol would be one of the safest AND most effective that you could take.

Be careful.

[Sonny]

Ok-just checking. Wanted you to make the right choice for you. Just meant getting stressed out about what it may be potentially doing to your body. Plus I think I had low blood sugar at the time and was overly sensative. (lol)

It's a methyl group attacked to a certain carbon atom la da da...ie does not break down as fast....ie harder on the liver.

Steriods are more effective and they are illegal-that's the difference.

Read some logs and product info-give you some ideas.

[UNCfan1]

yeah go with X-factor and some creatine if u are worried about sides. Also as stated by Sonny Non meth PH's don't have as many sides but don't work that well alone. Anyway I ran a cycle of Halodrol and Orastan-E(discoutinued now) and had very little sides, a little temper problem but I have always had one and some minor acne.

[slimwarrior]

I want to try something that works " a lot" ... maybe steroids instead of prohormones would be better?

[jram]

I am 25 and I have been training for 3 years . I'd like to get some anabolics, but I'm afraid of the side effects so I'd like to try something relatively "safe"... some advice is needed
thank you :)

I want to try something that works " a lot" ... maybe steroids instead of prohormones would be better?

Hey sw;

Not to get on a soap box but, what you should do since you’re a beginner is first do some research on your own. So much advice right off the bat can be very confusing because there are so many opinions. One thing you should keep in mind is that what works for one individual may not work for you. At this point IMPO, I wouldn’t even think of steroids before you at least understand the concept of PH’s.

After you make some selections, check out what they can and can’t do for you, then read some logs some of the guys on the board may have made. You’d be surprised how much you can learn.

Then depending on your health and condition you’ll by able to make a selection of what you may want to use. By then you should have enough information to ask some good questions and hopefully have some good answers for you to make an intelligent selection as to what to take, how and when.

Peace:cool: