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balls
July 30th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Hello everyone! I am 28 and am getting ready to order some bottles of methyl-plex/methyl-drol and needed some questions answered. This is my second time using ph's (I used some of the products from LG) and I'm looking to build serious muscle. I was planning on using the cycle in the add on this website and wanted to know if that was o.k.? I am currently also taking vitargo creatine, ZMA nightly, multi-vitamin's, fish and flax-seed oil and drinking protein shakes twice daily. For my pct I was planning on taking Reduce-XT and Inhibit-E. I wanted to know if I should take anything else while on and off the cycle and how long my pct should be and how long I need to rest after I finish my pct and start a knew cycle? Thank you for your help.

Easton
July 30th, 2006, 06:30 PM
You are going to hear an overwhelming response resposnse not to mix those two. YOu should stack Methyl Drol with prostanazol. I just purchased a couple of bottle os methyl drol and had the same question.

Wuss
August 2nd, 2006, 02:50 AM
I think you're going to need to eat a lot more and take in whopping amounts of protein.. more than just two shakes a day (of course, if you're getting a shit-ton from your meals, that's ok)... at least 1.5 to 2.0 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. If you want to add bulk, them's the rules my friend.

jram
August 2nd, 2006, 08:30 AM
Hello everyone! I am 28 and am getting ready to order some bottles of methyl-plex/methyl-drol and needed some questions answered. This is my second time using ph's (I used some of the products from LG) and I'm looking to build serious muscle. I was planning on using the cycle in the add on this website and wanted to know if that was o.k.? I am currently also taking vitargo creatine, ZMA nightly, multi-vitamin's, fish and flax-seed oil and drinking protein shakes twice daily. For my pct I was planning on taking Reduce-XT and Inhibit-E. I wanted to know if I should take anything else while on and off the cycle and how long my pct should be and how long I need to rest after I finish my pct and start a knew cycle? Thank you for your help.

As you know Methyl-Drol is the same compound as LG: Masterdrol and Methyl-Plex is the same as AX-Phera-Plex. Are you cutting or bulking? If your bulking, why use R-XT? You should consider liver protection (like-AX-PC or some other liver product and additional Silymarin) since your taking 2-methyls. Inhibit-E is good but, IMPO I think AX-PCT has more to offer. Also, think about including Fenugreek, Anti-Oxidants, BCAA’s, CoQ10, EFA’s, etc., in your PCT. During your cycle and PCT, make sure you drink plenty of water at least 1.5 - 2 gallons per day. Better yet start drinking that amount of water before you start your cycle because it’ll help reduce the lower back pain you’ll be getting at the start of you cycle.

Consider taking a percentage of your PCT for liver/estrogen protection pre-cycle and on-cycle. Your PCT should last at least as long as your PH cycle. Before starting a new cycle I always wait at least 3 months (my choice, just to play it safe), some individuals wait 2 months. Also, it may depend on your health and physical condition. I finished an LG: Masterdrol cycle this past April and I’ll be starting another PH cycle (LG: M1-A/M1-P) in September.

Good luck on you cycle.

Peace:cool:

balls
August 2nd, 2006, 05:05 PM
I'm not married to this stack I was just trying to learn more about it. I'm lookin to bulk-up. I eat clean a lot throughout the day (cleanly). I need to find the right stack to bulk-up and be able to keep the results (as much as possible). I need help with dosages and pct cycle. Thanks again!!

Sonny
August 2nd, 2006, 06:23 PM
You can follow the suggested stack.

You will/may need saw palmetto (prostate) and hawthorn berry (blood pressure) during/pct. Look into I3C along with/instead of inhibit-E.

If you want to keep your gains you better keep the cortisol control. Some start it right after, some wait a week or two.

May also want to add a test booster like trib, stinging nettle, ActivaTE-DS, etc. during pct.

Safest route-don't take anything. Next best choice: time on=pct=time off.
ie 6 weeks on, 6 weeks pct, 6 weeks off minimum.

Opinions vary on what products are better but concepts are the same.

Good luck.

balls
August 2nd, 2006, 06:46 PM
What can I take for cortisol control? Do I take that during my pct or during the stack?

Sonny
August 2nd, 2006, 09:39 PM
What can I take for cortisol control? Do I take that during my pct or during the stack?

You already got it-it's your reduce XT-for pct.


There is a lot that goes into it. Make a list.

balls
August 5th, 2006, 08:26 AM
What is I3C? Do I take that during the cycle and during pct? How much?

Easton
August 6th, 2006, 02:02 AM
JRAM...I got really bad lower back pains last month when I took SD. My strength went through the roof (6 weeks, ending at 40 mg a day) but on week 3 I started getting very bad lower back pains. My water intake was about .75 gallons a day, but I didn't load up on water before the cycle. What are the pains from? Don't mean to take away from this thread, but you noted this on your response, and thought it could help others.

NightTrain
August 6th, 2006, 10:06 AM
easton, the lower back pains you were most likey experiencing are what has become known as lower back pumps and they are not uncommon while taking SD or PP. the best way to combat them is to include Taurine in your support supplements while taking either SD or PP. i'm taking around 1000mg each day and have not really experienced any back pumps
hope this helps.....

jram
August 6th, 2006, 05:32 PM
JRAM...I got really bad lower back pains last month when I took SD. My strength went through the roof (6 weeks, ending at 40 mg a day) but on week 3 I started getting very bad lower back pains. My water intake was about .75 gallons a day, but I didn't load up on water before the cycle. What are the pains from? Don't mean to take away from this thread, but you noted this on your response, and thought it could help others.

Hey Easton;

I believe I answered this question on a post by Pike referring to your back pain on 07/12/06. If you missed it, here it is again. Take care.

"Hey Pike:

SD is very similar to Masterdrol. Some of us react differently to PH’s or any supplement for that matter but, IMPO I don’t think it’s the connective tissue theory (fascia) in Easton’s case. He’s just not consuming enough water for one. When taking supplements one should always drink in excess of a gallon of water per day and depending on the supplement(s), even more water. Easton cannot use SD and hope that 8 glasses of water per day will suffice. Could also be that other supps may be required."

Peace:cool:

Easton
August 6th, 2006, 08:17 PM
Nighttrain...
I took NO Xplode with SD...doesn't that have Taurine? If it's not enough, what shoudl I be looking at?

ripped218
August 6th, 2006, 08:43 PM
Nighttrain...
I took NO Xplode with SD...doesn't that have Taurine? If it's not enough, what shoudl I be looking at?
I would dose at least 5 grams of taurine or if need be more along with magnesium,also kep some banana's on hand,they can help alleviate the back pumps

NightTrain
August 7th, 2006, 02:51 AM
easton, every person is different 1000mg seems to be enough for me, but maybe you need more. i have read alot of posts that recommend from 500-1000mg each day. as far as NO xploid goes, i have no clue as to the ingrediants..... you might also ensure that you are drinking at the minimum 1 gallon of water each day, and more so if you drink alot of caffine products... ie soda, coffee, etc.......
i am using am energy drink called rip it, and it has 1000mg of taurine per drink, they are 8 oz and i get them free, so thats why i use them. it also saves me form having to buy the taurine. hope this helps you out......