Dianabol

[Boxing=Life]

Looking for Mass, strength, and the "ripped" look, and after doing some research i found that d-bol will do all of this. however i also know that it isn't very effective by itself and that it can aromatize and cause water retention.

so, First question: what would be good to stack with it to keep all gains permanant/ increase strength mass and "ripped" gains?

Second question: for PCT....nolva and clomid? possibly nolva also while on cycle to stop aromatization? what would be good to stop water retention?


Thanks for your time guys

[MUbodbuilder]

try a totaly diff illegal compound, dbol wont make u look ripped...diet does :)

[GlockGuy]

I agree, D-bol will do the exact opposite of making you look ripped. It will make you look bloated and swol. You will get very big strength gains, but they are very hard to retain at the end of the cycle. The size you will gain will be even harder to retain because it will be mostly water weight.
If you want to look ripped, change your diet and do some research on your training technique. If you have your mind made up on using the D-Bol, stack it with something like Deca or Equipoise. The D-Bol will fill the gap in the beginning before the injectable starts to show it's affects and together they will make for a more productive cycle. However, I would just avoid the D-Bol all together since it's con's outweigh it's pro's.


While using dianabol high blood pressure and a faster heartbeat can occur which may require the intake of an anti-hypertensive drug. Additive intake of Nolvadex and Proviron may be necessary as well, since dianabol strongly converts into estrogens. Dianabol can trigger a serious acne vulgaris on the face, neck, chest, back, and shoulders since the sebaceous gland function is stimulated. If a hereditary predisposition exists, dianabol can also accelerate a possible hair loss.
After discontinuation of the compound, a considerable loss of strength and mass often occurs since the water stored during the intake is again excreted by the body. In high dosages aggressive behavior in the user can occasionally be observed.

[Boxing=Life]

thanks for the advice so far guys. so will that cycle help with mass, strength, and the "Ripped" look? I'm assuming you take each steroid one after the other correct, or should they be taken seperately at certain times of the day?

Once again, thanks so far with the advice guys, this actually has been one of the more helpful places that I've been to.

[GlockGuy]

Dam dude, don't think that's a little advanced and just a little STRONG for a first time user? I would think a good Decca + Winny or EQ+ Winny would be a better beginning cycle for someone that has no idea how he is going to react to not only the injections, but the actual substance itself. What you outlined above looks like a KILLER stack for someone that has been around the block and knows what to look for when things aren't right, but for someone that is a novice, I'd say it's WAY too much.
Not to mention that with the amount of substance you are recommending would require a huge investment and an even larger dedication to diet. Without that dedication to diet, the entire stack would be a waste of money, time and sups.

Just my opinion here, but I would stick to a lighter stack to test your tolerances. EQ at 600mg for the first two weeks and then 400 mg for 10 weeks to follow. Added to 75mg of Winny orals for 3 weeks, tapering to 50 mg in week 4 and 5 ending at week 5. That should give you a great stack and also allow you to gauge your tolerances with injections as well as orals. First off, there is a low amount of aromatization and secondly there is very little water retention while taking equipoise. It is thought to be a cutter but allot of users, but the way it increases your appetite gives it great potential to make it a stacker as well. Winstrol is also a relatively low androgenic steroid which does not seem to aromatize. It can be toxic to the liver in excessive dosages but if you use it with a steady intake of Milk Thistle and reduce other liver toxins like alcohol during use, you should not have any major issues. Keep the Winny to 4-5 weeks at most.

I have not done any of the above cycles and I am not a big steroid user, so I can't say I have 1st hand experience, but I do considder myself somewhat educated in the topic as I considder the topic to be a hobby interest of mine.