First cycle...

[JrBirdMan]

a good friend of mine recommended a first cycle for me of Tbol, proviron and nolva for PCT. I'd do 20-30-30-40 mg. weekly for 4 weeks and possibly a fifth week at 40mg tbol, depending on how the gains are vs. sides. I take multi and anti-oxidants and calcium daily with or without cycle. I'll add liver supp. milk thistle on cycle. My diet is mostly clean. I take protein shakes with oats and such as well as middle of the night casein protein for night time recovery. I take a pre and after workout shake with amino's and such. PCT I would have nolva with trib\zma and fish oils. I usually get about 2200-3000 cals a day depending on work schedule. Lift 3x weekly, alternate upper body, lower body, M W F. Past PH use include M1P cycle, than m1p with masterdrol. m1p masterdrol cycle gave me no noticable sides with great strength and size gains but unfortunately I didn't get to keep much of it. I'm 24, 174lbs, 5'10" 15%bf, lifting seriously 2 years plus on and off for another 2 years prior. Healthly. Goals are bulking and lean mass gains. Also I want to avoid pumkin head, gynocomastia. Really I want anyone's advice. please let me know if you need any more info about me. thanks in advance.

[Int3nsE]

My personal thoughts on steroids is you work up all that muscle, get big really fast, do horrible things to your body, then lose most of what you've gained when your off your cycle. One can easily get addicted and I predict if you do decide to use them you will wish you had'nt after... not to mention your testosterone level will never be the same when you get off of it.

That's just my 2cents... not trying to bash you or anything.

[lifter1417]

My personal thoughts on steroids is you work up all that muscle, get big really fast, do horrible things to your body, then lose most of what you've gained when your off your cycle. One can easily get addicted and I predict if you do decide to use them you will wish you had'nt after... not to mention your testosterone level will never be the same when you get off of it.

That's just my 2cents... not trying to bash you or anything.
if proper pct steps are taken then you will NOT loose all your gains and your natural testosterone levels Will return to normal. Addiction? WTF didnt we just have a thread about a week ago that discussed this

[JrBirdMan]

I understand the importance of PCT. do I have all the bases covered?

[thechamp]

than m1p with masterdrol. m1p masterdrol cycle gave me no noticable sides with great strength and size gains but unfortunately I didn't get to keep much of it. .

what prevented you from keeping all of your gains the first time.. diet lack of exercise?