Legal Steroids

[IrishMedic24]

Hello everyone,m curious abut the websites that advertise legal steroids. You know the websites with very similar names to real steroids, i.e. the real dianabol and then the legal steroid called dianibol. There is a wesbite called www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com that lists some products that sound real promising. I'm just curious if anyone knows if they work, or if it is worth it to try them. Thank you for your help. The reason I ask is because I've hit sort of a peek, and I'm having a hard time making progress, I'm 23 6'3 204 lbs. I want to put on some good size, like 2-4 inches on my arms which are 16 1/4 inches right now, as well as gaining strength. Help?

[Expose191419]

i know for sure the legal steroids site is overpriced scam products just by reading their pitch, not worth it man, just alot of hype. not sure about the site you posted....anyway, you may not want to post other links to other sites that sell stuff or advertise for them, considering DA.com is a business and the forum is apart of it. not trying to be an ass or anything just wanted to let you know so they dont delete your posts or anything

[cuderbeast]

How long have you been lifting? 6'3" and 204Ibs and talking about steiroids and sticking points. What supplements have you tried?

[IrishMedic24]

Well heres the thing, I have a solid core. My legs and torso are strong. I used to play baseball in college and I was a pitcher. It was frowned upon if we did anything heavy with shoulders, and biceps were a no no. Basically as a training routine we went light on the upper body and heavy on the lower. My bench is currently 265, if that helps. As far as trying supplements, I have tried different nitric products, and recently just tried Luekic and AnatarP70. I have tried gear cycle from fizogen, but wasn't really impressed. I have liked Leukic and the AnatarP70. Muscles are harder, denser and I ahve put on a little bit of size. Thats about it as far as supplements. I take protein and do my best to eat healthy as possibly with high protein. 250-350 grams of protein a day. Can you suggest any products from DA.com that are worth trying? Thank you

[IrishMedic24]

sorry for mentioning any other site other than discountanabolics.com. Im very pleased with this website, I was just curious about the knockoffs.

[cuderbeast]

How has anatar and leukic worked out? I am curious about those? I'm on x-factor right now and i've gained 6Ibs. in about 2-3 weeks. Before that i had been at a sticking point since the beginning of February. BSN No-xplode/Cell-mass worked out GOOD for strength gains which yield size. SNS CVM Extreme/Arginine E2 matrix worked good also. It seems like your taking in the right amount of protein so keep that up and you should get some results. Whats your workout routine?

[IrishMedic24]

I'm in my 3rd week of Leukic and Anatar and Ive put on about 4-6 lbs. The thing I am noticing the most with these products is that my muscles are harder. ive gained a 1/4 inch in my arms over the 3 weeks I have used these 2. My workout routine is something like this.


Day 1- Chest (I go all the way down to my chest with the bar, no cheating)
Flat Bench
135X12 warm up.
185X10
225X8
245X4-6 (every other chest workout I max out which is 265 now.
Incline Bench
135X10
165X10
185X8
205 4-6
Decline
135X12
185X10
225X8

Dips-There is a free-weight machine at my gym I use, not a typical Dip machine
205X10
255X10
305X8

Flys- Cables
Incline
40lbsx10
40x10
50x10

Decline
40x10
40x10
50x10

Staright Flys on machine
205x10
235x10
255x8

Day 2 Off Day

Day 3 Bi's and Tri's

Preacher curls 6 sets 3 outer 3 inner
85x10
105x10
115x6

Skull Crushers 3 sets
85x10
105x10
130x8 W/ closer grip push outs at end 8 reps

Straight Bar Standing curls 45lb Bar
95x10
105x10
115x6

Tricep Behind the head with dumbell,(not sure what it is called)
95x10
105x10
115x8

Hammer curls 3 sets
50x10
55x8
60x8

Tricep Pull Down straight bar
100x10
120x10
140x10

Short curls with bent bar (Outer grip only, trying to build outside of Bicep)
80x10
90x8
100x6

Single hand Tricep pulldown, reverse or forward Depending on Day
40x10
40x10
50x8

Cable Curls toward head
40x10
40x10
50x8

Day 4 off Day or legs

Day 5 Shoulder and Back
Close Grip pull-ups 3 sets of 8 to warm up

Sitting Dumbell Shoulder press
50x10
60x10
75x6

Upright rows, close grip and wide grip
135x10
160x10
180x10
205x8

Shoulder shrugs with Large straight bar
225x10
275x10
315x8
365x6

Lawn Mowers, dont know the proper name, hope you can figure it out, it works ur lats
90x10
95x10
100x8

Seated shoulder shrugs w/Dumbells
90x10
100x10
105x8

Lat pulldowns
165x10
190x10
205x8

HammerStrength Shoulder press
180x10
230x10
265x6

Shoulder raises to fron and side (breaks inbetween both)
30x10
35x10
40x10

Thats pretty much the idea of my workouts, sometimes they change a little bit. Any suggestions, criticism? Im open for anything.
Also, I was thinking about trying stack of the Hydrotest and 17Hd with PCT as well as my Leukic and Anatar. SOund good, bad, no idea? My thing about the nitric products is to me they gave a false sense of bulding muscle. When I worked out my muscles would increase, but the size never stayed. I think it was more of water retention than anything else. Thank you for you help.

[Clickster]

I tend to agree. I am not a big fan of "pump" products.

I would reccomend trying X-Factor. I have heard some people that are just IN LOVE with it. I would try a full cycle of X-Factor and a good creatine like SNS CVM Xtreme. Just my thoughts.

[IrishMedic24]

What kind of gains could I expect with a full cycle of X-factor and a good creatine? Thank you for your help.

[shuttaLCD]

What kind of gains could I expect with a full cycle of X-factor and a good creatine? Thank you for your help.


I kept all of mine :)....

Keep the diet in check. and training on the dime...you'll be set.

remember u must add more cals to sustain the new muscle..

-Shutta

[IrishMedic24]

How many cals should I be taking in?

[cuderbeast]

I'm doing straight x-factor. I'm on week 3 with about 6Ibs. added from it. I've been stuck with my weight since February so this is a good product to break that weight barrier. I will add creatine towards the end so they will overlap cycles. I would try it though. I just eat ALOT and drink 3 protein shakes a day.

[IrishMedic24]

thanks cuder...no complaints on the workout routine?

[cuderbeast]

No complaints really. Lawnmowers lol... i called them chainsaws. Do you do squat? You should add deadlift it really helps overall. And also have you heard of Arnold Press?

[IrishMedic24]

Yes I squat and I will add deadlifts, but havent heard of the arnold. can u explain? How many cals should I be eating as well?

[cuderbeast]

The Arnold press is like the military dumbbell press.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/DeltoidAnterior/DBArnoldPress.html

Thats the best i can do at the moment for the explaination. It seems to work better that everything else i've tried for shoulders. And for cals on x-factor or just normal?

[IrishMedic24]

on x-factor

[cuderbeast]

Just increase it over 1000 from what your current cals a day are

[IrishMedic24]

So something like 3500 cals a day?

I am getting ready to order 2 bottles of X-factor, Cvm-xtreme (2 servings a day) and the 10lb bag of Optimuim Nutritions protein. Other than a multivitamin, and joint therapy anything else I should take, should I add a testosterone booster?

[cuderbeast]

I think that should be fine... and have you read about x-factor and what foods to not eat?

[IrishMedic24]

I have read some of the information on X-factor, but not all of it. What foods shouldn't I eat?

[cuderbeast]

You should not supplement fish/flax oil and eat excess amounts of omega 3 fatty acids( tuna, peanut butter).

[wedgylx]

Xfactor gets generally good reviews. I didn't see much from it, but many people love it. I'd say its worth a try, definitely a better option than those scam legal AAS sites