For Dinoiii:steroid use/abuse continued

[Quick]

Hello dinoiii. My Prior post:My brother in law, years ago was taking injections and also other pill forms of steroids at the same time with no regard to PCT. His buddies got him into it and none of them were taking anything but steroids including therapy for the liver.
He finally got off of them and he has always had a very thin frame but shortly after taking them he gained weight big time. Including a puffy and soft chest and fat all around the waist area. Years have past and he has been dieting and jogging 4-5 times a week for 3-4 years. Nothing seems to work for him. He has lost a few pounds but not much. I was just reading some of the posts and it caused me to wonder if his internal environment is wacky. Maybe his estrogen levels are to high or something? What do you guys think or suggest?
Thank you for refering me to your prior posts on this subject. You told me to get back to you once I read them.
Ok, I learned I think, here it goes:
According to you prior post an adrenal insufficiency could be what my brother in-law is suffering from? I did read mention of some products such as 7-keto/oxo type pdts/sns reduce xt post cycle?? Is there anything else that I could be missing?
My question: Could his body still be in a hormonal inbalance after all these years?? Could the lack of PCT still be causing a crossover feedback in regard to adrenal insufficiency? OR AM I STILL CLUELESS AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M SAYING?
Thanks again,
Quick

[dinoiii]

Ok - Settle down. ;)

What I was saying is:

(1) Through copious cycles, it has likely left him in a hypOadrenal state that has been supercompensated by overproduction of ACTH with subsequent elevations in Cortisol, amongst others. Keep in mind - if the adrenal is out of whack...when it supercompensates, we are also talking about another source of estrogen.

(2) This situation becomes increasingly complex as fat deposition allows for increased aromatization of current test levels. But for a significant time frame, your T:E, et al. levels are totally unopposed and out of whack.



I will ask the obligatory what is his diet like and his other (i.e. - resistance) workouts centered on?

One thing he must stop doing is CARDIO. I know, you think I am crazy. Let me ask you this...has cardio and all the cardio he does done absolutely ANYTHING for his physique...the answer is a resounding NO and he is continually raising cortisol levels to boot.

Products like Reduce, et al - while I don't agree with their use in the immediate post-cycle realm...may offer some true benefit now....one kicker is the potential expense for efficacy. I would be hard pressed to suggest something under 200-300mg spread out over the day. Alternative hormonal modulation can be achieved through diet, lifestyle, etc... Let's say this is a starting point.

I await your posting his diet...

[Quick]

Wow, very interesting. Just so you know he will be getting some blood work and tests done as you suggested. His doctor has strangely said he has symptoms of Hypoglycemia as well, which they will test also.

Here is his diet and exercise information:
Monday-Friday
8:00am=1 boiled egg without yoke
10:30am=1oz reduced fat moz. cheese stick
12:00pm=2egg beater sandwich on whole grain tortilla wrap, 1apple, a handfull of pecan nuts.
3:00pm=apple,pear, or strawberries
5:00pm=Chicken breast, steak or whole wheat pastas(portions to fit in hand)
Low sugar veggies(beans)(handful size)
Dessert=small bowl of no sugar added ice cream(only twice a month)
8:30pm=4 saltine crackers with no sugar added peanut butter. An apple, pear or strawberries.
Sat.-Sun.
10:00am:
2 regular eggs over easy
5pcs. of bacon(uuhhhh)
2 slices of organic ezekial bread
01:00pm=a cheese stick and piece of fruit
5:00pm=same as Mon-Fri
8:00pm=Miller time 1 6pk of miller lite
(once a month 3 six packs of miller lite in a week)
11:00pm=4slices of cheese or no sugar peanut butter on whole wheat bread.
Exercise:Stopped weight training
Jog 3miles 4-5 times per week at moderate speed.

[dinoiii]

I will comment on the diet later, but

the hypoglycemia makes sense in an adrenal sense. With productive ACTH stimulation (this indirectly from Ghrelin, btw) - you must also take into consideration postprandial hyperinsulinemic states. [layman's: increased insulin equals decreased glucose/blood sugar]

While this gets VERY complex...again, it doesn't change my initial thought and is a good thing to check, but results would come back in a basic BMP or CMP (basal or metabolic profile).