whats the best stack to have while taking Nutrex 1-TU?

[shortbutnotshort]

who knows what the best stack is to have while taking Nutrex 1-TU?

[dinoiii]

You may want to try something from the 4-AD class. Seems to be the thing of choice.

[shortbutnotshort]

would takind an anit-e wth it be good?

[dinoiii]

It could be. I say this b/c of the aromatizability value of the 4AD.


I have survived cycles of that kind of stack without an anti-E. By "survived" mean HAVE ACTUALLY HAD E levels drawn to show no appreciable changes, but there is a susceptibility facotr to consider and the thought that many people don't have the easy access to testing.


I know many people however that choose not to use them and don't necessarily regret it though.

[shortbutnotshort]

okay, i have 2 questions.

1: when on my cycle should i take my anti-e's

2: do i need to take a natural testosterone booster during my 2 week off cycle?

remember, this is for Nutrex's 1-TU, so please only respond if you have info on this product. thanks guys

[dinoiii]

Again, I repeat - this is highly a consideration of choice. I have taken a nano dispersion liquid cap of 1-T/4-AD in the past - no not nutrex, but the suppliers are the same and I have seen patients who were worried post-cycle who have used it (some with a conglomerate of stuff they perhaps should have waited on at the same time)... it comes down to proper formulation (i.e. - did company x add the right amt.).

If you opt to go with 1-TU alone, it is a matter of choice. Some say yes, some say no. I was being very liberal.

Honest opinon via science: Post-cycle - yes...during cycle - no IF YOU WANT TO USE IT AS A STAND ALONE WITHOUT THE 4AD - it is your choice, but the receptor argument makes sense here.

The natural test boosters receive mixed reviews, but (as I just stated in another post) I have taken and just ordered 2 more bottles of Biotest's Alpha Male sold here at DA. I used Tribex from them as well in the past that I could verify certainly gives the perception of "working" although it is the one product I never got lab work for.

I hope it helps some - sorry I never took it, but I still feel the comments I offered are really going to be what you'll get - "mixed reviews" so I thought b/c I had experience with the compound directly + product indirectly that you mention, you may be interested.

[shortbutnotshort]

i really didnt get what you were saying. so i should take the natural test boosters and anti-e's during my post cycle? is that what you were saying?

[dinoiii]

Post Cycle will be a good idea - yes. I think during is more a personal choice.

If you were stacking the 1-TU, with something else (ie - 4AD), I would recommend it. It sounds, however, that you have chosen monotherapy with the 1-TU.





I am going to post some common clinical values I have encountered with people taking PH / PS supps (well, in 2 days - what do we call them) - blood labs, etc... AAS items will be posted in the Steroid section and their lab values followed. I think you will be interested in why I make the suggestions I do. Stay tuned to the AF!

[EDAWG146]

Dude, How old are you? For cats to help you out, you have to be more specific about certain things. I mean are you old enough? 1 tu is not that serious. You don't need to run anything during cycle.

[dinoiii]

EDAWG what is exacty "that serious."




I think if you were using 4-AD alone many would consider it not that serious, but afterwards you are saying it is not ok to run something. Hmmmmm, I wouldn't agree. You know E levels are raised almost 200-fold post-administration of something as "non-serious" as 4AD. I am telling you that after you stop exogenous introduction of hormones, you SHOULD take something. If you choose not to, that is certainly personal decision - but don't tell the poor guy not to use anything.


I am not sure he hasn't already made his decision to use the 1-Tu -- it sounds like he is well beyond that point. I will assume anyone asking a question beyond roiderkid's silly comments is above 21 (I would actually prefer 25) but 21 minimally. However, acknowledging that if he is even 18, his questions already suggest he has made the decision.



Not sure this makes much sense, but it is after 1:00 in NY. I feel like stallion typing this late. WOW!!!

[EDAWG146]

My bad, I meant that you don't have to take something during the cycle. And it's not as potent as some of the other stuff on the market. For 1 tu to work anyway, you have to take a lot of it and bang for the buck I don't think it's worth it.

[dinoiii]

Certainly agreed on the taking a lot of it for it to "work" - at least higher than recommended doses. You sound EDAWG like you have likely more PH experience which could be why your dosages "need" to be elevated.

shortbutnotsoshort, how much 1-TU do you have? And I agree with EDAWG that I do not think if you are running the 1-TU alone that you need to consider any anti-E, etc... DURING your cycle.

[shortbutnotshort]

i bought seven bottles of 1-TU

[shortbutnotshort]

i've never taken any prosteroids/ prohormones before. i've been researching them for a long time though. well...you say that you need to take a lot of 1-TU for it to work and that i need to take more than the recommended dose. i weigh 175 lbs and im 5'7 and very athletic (football, wrestling, and track). what would be your recommended dosage for maximum mass growth?

[shortbutnotshort]

i mainly wanted to get lean muscle mass gains and strength gains.

[shortbutnotshort]

quickly

[EDAWG146]

I can't remember the dosage stated on the bottle. I think you need at least 600mg a day which would be two pills spread 3x daily. (if i remember correctly each pill is 100mg) Take it with fish oil.

[shortbutnotshort]

what if i wanted to stack it with a human growth complex?

[EDAWG146]

i don't know what that is. 1 tu isn't that bad with proper dosing.

[shortbutnotshort]

its a brand of growth hormone. i was asking what if i wanted to stack a growth hormone with the 1-TU.

[EDAWG146]

I can't help you with that. I'm unfamiliar with that product. If it's real hgh I suggest you state that and see if someone else can help.

[shortbutnotshort]

yes, human growth complex is a real hgh.

[EDAWG146]

I doubt you would want to run 1 tu with that. I don't think this board has enough "hardcore cats" YET to answer that question.

[EDAWG146]

Read up on it bro, for real, that's some serious shit! I wouldn't recommend it. Proper prohormone cycles can do justice, and there safer, much safer.

[EDAWG146]

How old are you? You say you have seven bottles right? That's more than enough for a good cycle. If you don't have anything else ie 4ad, then you can get away with stacking it with a creatine product.