going to start masterdrol cycle- help

[Terminator 4]

didnt know if to post on this formum please excuse me if im wrong.

im gonna start my first masterdrol cycle, im cutting right
now and i have a few things to ask you experts.

1-what do you think of stacking it with proviron? couse im cutting I want to be as much leaner as i can be,I have some bloat i got from a bulking cycle i did.

2-I have puffy nipples I think it got worst after a testosterone cycle i did,(it happend during the cycle not when i did Pct)
so what pct would you recommend for me?
my plan for now is week 1-2=40 mg nolvadex, weeks 3-4=20 mg nolvadex

3-I have seen in this forum that some one said its good to take proviron during the pct with the nolva to prevent delayd gyno?what do you think about it. what would help preventing delayd gyno ?

thanx!

[UltimateFighter]

have you noticed that your sperm is amlost gel like while on proviron. wierd shit

and masterdrol is superdrol and there is no sterogen form that. in fact it does display some anti-estrogen properties

i recommend

PCT WEEK 1 - nolva 30mg - proviron 50mg - remeron 15mg
WEEK 2 - nolva 20mg - ATD (inihibit-e RXT) - remeron 15mg
WEEK 3 - nolva 20mg - ATD
WEEK 4 - ATD (bloodwork check too)

proviron clears up estrogen while nolva blocks its effects. the two work together for an all out anti-est effect.

and i myself dont believe in delayed gyno :D

[Terminator 4]

I know that its androgenic and I cant get gyno on the cycle, but off it I can.
so you think I need to use proviron only on the first week of the pct?
what do you say about stacking it with masterdrol the whole cycle? (to drian more bloat that I got)

[iceq22]

listen bro, you do not need to use proviron throw the cycle or after it ( pct )
proviron is a DHT and DHT by imself can supress the HPTA, espiacally on the PCT while you trying to recovery and increase your natural levels of testosteron, thus using proviron will not help in the PCT.
MD is very androgenic and combined it with a nother form of androgen ( and very potent one like proviron ) it's not beneficall and can shut you down thus increase the length of your recovery and increase the chanses for delyed gyno.
most users of SD do not get delyed gyno but there are a few who does!
proviron is acting as a AI and thus should not be used for PCT cuz AI are known to up regulate estrogen receptors and also up regulation of aromatase enzym.
When testosterone is slowly recovering after a cycle and has not yet reached full capacity-levels, the explosively ramping up of estrogen-production (aromatse upped) will lead to massive estrogenic action at peripheral tissues (additionally by highly sensitized tissue-receptors). This leads to a SIGNIFICANT dysbalance of the testosteron-to-estrogen-ratio wich is the main signal for breast tissue to grow. At that moment gyno-development starts, and after some some weeks you can not only feel it but also see it!
in the case of SD, nolva for PCT it's enogh IMO!

[UltimateFighter]

where does your info come from ice q?

proviron is a type of DHT but it wont shut you down. its used for men with sexual disfunction. it has a high binding affinity for SHBG so using it on cycle will potentiate the feffects of masterdrol leaving more to be unbound.

proviron works well with nolva

nolva is an estrogen antagonist. but for what reasons do you wish to use proviron? its not commonly used on cycle to stack with something although its a good addition to things like M1T and other high anabolics to balance it out more.

[Terminator 4]

I have 2 reasons for wanting to use proviron

1-with masterdrol-to drain more water/bloat (im cutting and have some bloat i got from enathate cycle).

2-with nolvadex on pct- thats what I thought is best to eliminate gyno simptoms cause im very sensitive to gyno. so maybe proviron on low dose wont shut me down and will help me get my test levels higher when im recovering and also help battle estrogen.

if Im right with these 2 reasons id like to know its realy important! my first concern for sides is gyno.

[iceq22]

where does your info come from ice q?

proviron is a type of DHT but it wont shut you down. its used for men with sexual disfunction. it has a high binding affinity for SHBG so using it on cycle will potentiate the feffects of masterdrol leaving more to be unbound.

proviron works well with nolva

nolva is an estrogen antagonist. but for what reasons do you wish to use proviron? its not commonly used on cycle to stack with something although its a good addition to things like M1T and other high anabolics to balance it out more.

well, cuz prov is a type of DHT and in the end of your cycle test levels will be low thus estrogen will be high, DHT will not be helpfull and might even hurt the main goal here wich is to increase as much as posiibble and fast as posibble natural testosteron and decrease estrogen, cuz prov it's a DHT it can inhibit natural testosteron ( while your test levels are already low ) and hurt your recovery and ofcurse to loss the gains you are trying to retain!

[Terminator 4]

nobody wants to help in here? come on people...