dinoiii
January 21st, 2006, 02:09 PM
Unanswered Questions from PM’s, Part II
While it takes sometimes considerable periods of time for me to answer personal questions, I will eventually make sure to get to them all. The following is the next batch of actual PMs or emails that I thought should be given an opportunity to be shared. They have not been altered or changed in any way with the exception of omission of names due to the discretion needed with some questions.
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Question #1
Q: Hey dinoiii,
This has been a hard question for me to express publicly on the forum, but I am really concerned about my status after a recent PH cycle. It seems as though libido has returned which suffered greatly during my cycle. My wife was actually pretty upset. The current problem I am experiencing is with achievement of ejaculation. I think this is really messin up my ability to have an orgasm. It ain’t there! I mean, I am not sure if this is a common problem – but the sex doesn’t produce the same response as I think it did prior to the cycle. Please Help!
Thanks in advance.
A: Uhhh, WOW, this could seem a really challenging question when looked at superficially. You may, however, not like my response. It may surprise you to learn that an orgasm occurs between the ears, not between your legs. The sensation, which lasts about 3-5 seconds in a man and 5-8 seconds in a female (yes, this has been verified by studies – I know, I know – so where do I sign up?), takes place strictly in the brain, and the brain is the sole organ required to generate the reflexive flood of pleasure and release. Erection is not required for orgasm, and a man incapable of having erections or ejaculating can still experience sexual climax as long as the brain is intact.
Our best evidence of this being the case comes from patients that suffer from increased prostate size and the subsequent operations that may have to take place to alleviate the symptomatology associated with prostate problems. After simple prostatectomy (removal of part of the gland) for an enlarged, obstructing prostate, or radical prostatectomy (complete removal) to treat prostate cancer, the ability to reach orgasm should not be impaired despite the loss of ejaculation (known as a dry orgasm).
D_
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Question #2
Q: dinoiii,
I want to know how to get the nice, cut look of a Men’s Fitness cover model – not a bodybuilder. You know, to look something like Brad Pitt or the like and I was wondering if you could help me out with a routine to make it happen. You seem to know what you’re talking about in your posts.
A: While I see nothing wrong with the “in” look (where bicep size equates with forearm girth) that seems to appeal to the masses (namely women), I am curious what kinds of secrets you may believe I am going to reveal to you that would vary from a routine I may post for someone who wants more of a bodybuilding look? In fact, I am willing to bet that they either have great genetics or train identical to some bodybuilder routines (granted their genetics could make them more prone to better adaptation than yours). The true difference likely lies in the amount of...well, “exogenous substances” that are used between the counterparts (Read: Use vs. Abuse).
Now, while I certainly don’t want to discourage your ambitions, there is much more that goes on outside of what is preached in a magazine of that genre as well as in Hollywood. Additionally, if you are as big a fan of my posts as your message may imply, you would know I want a lot more information on you before I would even consider sending advice your way.
D_
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Question #3
[Author's Note: This was a multi-part convo I had with one of you, but there are some quality comments, so I will post the entire thing, especially because it deals with PCT items and the tardiness of PCT: A Clinician's View Part III - which will be up very shortly, I hope!]
FIRST ENCOUNTER:
Q: Dinoiii,
Just read your PCT Part II, very informative and a lot to take in. From the initial reading I'm thinking about switching out the DHEA for Trib. Anyway, you said to email you for info on the Nolva. I have a bottle of Tamoxifen Citrate.
Alright bout to tackle your article again, do you write these for fun or do you use them as papers for any of your classes?
A: Hey [name omitted],
For fun, believe it or not - but, only in part...
I actually have penned four books that sit and lie in wait of publication and if you notice the references to be a bit jumbled in their numbering - this is because of how a really soon-to-be released book had presented them and how I extracted it. Plus I fight the damn copyrights on my own frickin work believe it or not all too often.
If you want - you can read more about my own plight in the Off Topic section under "Getting inside the mind of dinoiii" ... I think that explains quite a bit about me.
Anyway - on to the more important currently...
I am going to give you some sneak peaks at info I will present soon only because of how you have asked, but this info will be out soon (within a week or so, so I am going to simply ask you to hold it to yourself). Personally, I prefer other SERMS to Nolvadex. Nolvadex gets its acclaim because it was simply the first one marketed, but there are quite more side effects than often noted. There are only 2 authors I know of that share my opinions on Nolvadex dosing in the bodybuilding community (both, well-respected) - BUT BELIEVE ME, IT IS THE RATIONALE THAT IT IS THE ONLY DOSING PATTERN THAT HAS EVER BEEN STUDIED AND EVEN AT THAT LEVEL IT IS NOT WITHOUT SIDE EFFECTS.
I like to preach safety before I do effective
You will likely have a safe + EFFECTIVE PCT even if you only use 20 mg of the Nolva throughout. Ramping down was created by sensationalist writers who wanted to simply look different. Now, I am not certain what cycle you ran, but if it included anything in the C17 alkylated category, just be aware that Nolva has been shown in studies to cause liver problems. I strongly advise some SAMe on board (check out the liver supps category in PCT part II article)...you can add some Milk Thistle, but I do NOT believe NAC to be hugely effective despite overzealous claims. You are going to witness an IN HOUSE study comparing NAC and SAMe in the next article of the series and obviously the results are a reason I make this suggestion to you. It really shouldn't set you back in the $$$ dept either. A supplement carrier in your area will offer you some great quality cheap brands.
As far as the DHEA ... you may find it ideal to get a DHEA saliva test done and judge your DHEA intake based on those results. This is effective in telling a picture of your levels and you may incorporate the product you have into a time after PCT concludes.
As for the Trib inclusion - I personally think it is a great idea. If you want to go Trib alone, while I won't suggest a brand in the article set, I would say that Biotest's Tribex [Controlled Labs Blue Up product purports some good claims, but it is too early to tell with this product] continues to have a large following.
The Fenugreek - you can keep it. I just wouldn't expect superior feats in the way of libido enhancement as some people have said, however, it may offer some benefits in the carb metabolism dept. for repartitioning agents ... just make sure you are ingesting plenty of carbs when you take it as it actually has little value if not taken in with a lot of carbs.
hope all this helps. further questions, let me know.
D_
SECOND ENCOUNTER:
Q: Dinoiii,
Thank you for your reply and the info. I'll keep it to myself until your article comes out, which I'm highly anticipating I must say. My Methyldrol cycle ends this friday and I'll start PCT on Saturday. So if I can I'd like to lay out my whole PCT for you and see if you approve of the dosages and timings. I'm thinking of splitting everything into 2 even doses taken 1 when I wake up and the next 12 hours later. So that would be 10 mg of Nolva in the morning and 10 in the evening. Is this how you would recommend?
Ok I'm just gonna spell everything out here now.
My cycle is just over 3 weeks of SNS Methydrol at 10/20/20. Not a really heavy cycle but it was my first and I've put on about 15 pounds with it so I'm very happy. I took a full gammet of supporting supps too I'll list the ones I'm going to continue to take in the PCT section.
PCT Plan:
Week 1: 20mg Nolva, 75mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 1g Fenugreek
Week 2: 20mg Nolva, 50mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 2g Fenugreek
Week 3: 20mg Nolva, 50mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 3g Fenugreek
Week 4: 20mg Nolva, 25mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 4g Fenugreek
-I'm going to also add a Trib product, going to the health food store later this afternoon to find one. I'm not sure on what the dosing should be though yet.
-The ActivaTe I'm taking just as it says on the bottle, 4 caps a day, because I havn't found anything that suggests any different.
Supporting supps:
Now RYR Plus- Red Yeast Rice 1.2g, Milk Thistle Extract (80% Silymarin) 210mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 100mg, CoQ10 60 mg 1x daily
Hawthorn Berry 1.1g 1x daily
Celery Seed 75mg 2x daily
Saw Palmetto 160 mg 2x daily
Body Science Super Greenfoods Multi Vitamin (this includes 50mg Magnesium and 7.5 mg Zinc-Not sure if that is enough)
Essential Muscle Lipids-I like it because it has the whole range of sources. Fish Oil, Borage Seed Oil, Flax Oil....
One question I had was is there anything I should do the last couple days of my cycle to transition to PCT? It seems like it will be a big shock to the body to be taking methyldrol 1 day and the next be on all these other things.
I was also thinking that after the 2nd or 3rd week of PCT if I noticed that I was starting to lose weight I was going to start taking White blood/green bulge stack while I was still on pct. Is that a dumb idea? Should I just wait until after PCT is complete?
I think I've covered everything there. Please feel free to critique any and everything. I'm going to conitue to eat like a horse throughout but keep it really really clean to try and maybe put on a few more pounds and lose some body fat.
Thankyou for your time and sorry this was so long.
A: Hey
Disclaimer: Understand that the information that follows is for informational purposes ONLY and the author of this email intends its use as JUST THAT, a teaching sense. Any liability incurred by the recipient is waived and in total discretion of the recipient - therefore, if the recipient of this email cannot comply with the aforementioned, he/she is to delete it and not read further. Reading further, additionally implies that the recipient has accepted the aforementioned terms and assumes full responsibility for any information to follow. The following information is NOT intended to treat or cure any illness OR disease.
Alright going to try and hit all that you talk about with PCT.
I am happy you have opted out of the Nolvadex heavier dose. It is NOT needed and considering you were using a methylated product, I am even happier. Tamoxifen citrate undergoes extensive hepatic metabolism to:
1-(4-ethanolyloxyphenyl)-1,2-diphenylbut-1-ene (the primary
alcohol)
N-desmethyl tamoxifen
4-hydroxy tamoxifen
4-hydroxy-N-desmethyl tamoxifen
This would continue to wreak havoc on your liver and you'd get NO benefit. The dosing pattern suggested is adequate, but considering the short length of your cycle and the agents, it too could likely be challenged without adequate blood work.
Supporting supps you talk about:
(1) Please, Please STOP USE OF RED YEAST RICE before embarking on any trial of something like tamoxifen.** The two will literally rip apart your liver.*
(2) Alright with the ALA, Milk Thistle, and CoQ10 - in fact, I am thrilled...may add supplement SAMe to help out with the liver in addition to or replacing the Milk Thistle and its research tends to be better supported.
(3) As far as the hawthorn and celery seed are concerned. I would make sure your blood pressure has NOT dropped - this is especially significant in the Post cycle time frame. Keep it monitored. While it is true that BP can rise during cycle, it is not an absolute and the use of these supps - especially in preventative fashion is all that has support not picking them up in the PCT time frame.
(4) All the other stuff I am fine with as far as the zinc and magnesium. I may suggest VPX's CMZ supplement as it is a quality chelate at a relatively cheap price - I am not familiar with the product you mention and cannot say anything not knowing what forms of Zinc and Magnesium are present.
Other questions:
Your transition from cycle to PCT - well, normally I may say that PCT should either begin within the cycle or even PRE-cycle (as you will better see with article III), but many do it and only suffer slight decreases in size. What you could do is consider some glutamine and BCAAs - however, and this is big ... try and take the glutamine at a time of day different than the creatine product if you use one (see below).
WB/GB - just be wary of the 4-OH Isoleucine component of the products as your blood sugars may drop readily because you already intend on the Fenugreek. I would likely recommend a product of the creatine variety NOT having this component in it and it is not a terrible idea to start using it right away actually.
Hope this helps - Good Luck and let me know if there is anything else.
D_
- THIS IS THIS WEEK'S BATCH! KEEP SENDING THEM AND THEY WILL BE ANSWERED AS QUICKLY AS I AM ABLE. UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY BE USED FOR THESE KIND OF PIECES OF WORK, HOWEVER I WILL DO MY ABSOLUTE BEST TO MAINTAIN ANONYMITY!!!
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL WITH BODYBUILDING ENDEAVORS (natural and otherwise). D_
[Note: An uncensored verion of Q&A will find its way in with more controversial topics answered. Anabolics and the like included here.]
While it takes sometimes considerable periods of time for me to answer personal questions, I will eventually make sure to get to them all. The following is the next batch of actual PMs or emails that I thought should be given an opportunity to be shared. They have not been altered or changed in any way with the exception of omission of names due to the discretion needed with some questions.
__________________________________________________ __
Question #1
Q: Hey dinoiii,
This has been a hard question for me to express publicly on the forum, but I am really concerned about my status after a recent PH cycle. It seems as though libido has returned which suffered greatly during my cycle. My wife was actually pretty upset. The current problem I am experiencing is with achievement of ejaculation. I think this is really messin up my ability to have an orgasm. It ain’t there! I mean, I am not sure if this is a common problem – but the sex doesn’t produce the same response as I think it did prior to the cycle. Please Help!
Thanks in advance.
A: Uhhh, WOW, this could seem a really challenging question when looked at superficially. You may, however, not like my response. It may surprise you to learn that an orgasm occurs between the ears, not between your legs. The sensation, which lasts about 3-5 seconds in a man and 5-8 seconds in a female (yes, this has been verified by studies – I know, I know – so where do I sign up?), takes place strictly in the brain, and the brain is the sole organ required to generate the reflexive flood of pleasure and release. Erection is not required for orgasm, and a man incapable of having erections or ejaculating can still experience sexual climax as long as the brain is intact.
Our best evidence of this being the case comes from patients that suffer from increased prostate size and the subsequent operations that may have to take place to alleviate the symptomatology associated with prostate problems. After simple prostatectomy (removal of part of the gland) for an enlarged, obstructing prostate, or radical prostatectomy (complete removal) to treat prostate cancer, the ability to reach orgasm should not be impaired despite the loss of ejaculation (known as a dry orgasm).
D_
__________________________________________________ __
Question #2
Q: dinoiii,
I want to know how to get the nice, cut look of a Men’s Fitness cover model – not a bodybuilder. You know, to look something like Brad Pitt or the like and I was wondering if you could help me out with a routine to make it happen. You seem to know what you’re talking about in your posts.
A: While I see nothing wrong with the “in” look (where bicep size equates with forearm girth) that seems to appeal to the masses (namely women), I am curious what kinds of secrets you may believe I am going to reveal to you that would vary from a routine I may post for someone who wants more of a bodybuilding look? In fact, I am willing to bet that they either have great genetics or train identical to some bodybuilder routines (granted their genetics could make them more prone to better adaptation than yours). The true difference likely lies in the amount of...well, “exogenous substances” that are used between the counterparts (Read: Use vs. Abuse).
Now, while I certainly don’t want to discourage your ambitions, there is much more that goes on outside of what is preached in a magazine of that genre as well as in Hollywood. Additionally, if you are as big a fan of my posts as your message may imply, you would know I want a lot more information on you before I would even consider sending advice your way.
D_
__________________________________________________
Question #3
[Author's Note: This was a multi-part convo I had with one of you, but there are some quality comments, so I will post the entire thing, especially because it deals with PCT items and the tardiness of PCT: A Clinician's View Part III - which will be up very shortly, I hope!]
FIRST ENCOUNTER:
Q: Dinoiii,
Just read your PCT Part II, very informative and a lot to take in. From the initial reading I'm thinking about switching out the DHEA for Trib. Anyway, you said to email you for info on the Nolva. I have a bottle of Tamoxifen Citrate.
Alright bout to tackle your article again, do you write these for fun or do you use them as papers for any of your classes?
A: Hey [name omitted],
For fun, believe it or not - but, only in part...
I actually have penned four books that sit and lie in wait of publication and if you notice the references to be a bit jumbled in their numbering - this is because of how a really soon-to-be released book had presented them and how I extracted it. Plus I fight the damn copyrights on my own frickin work believe it or not all too often.
If you want - you can read more about my own plight in the Off Topic section under "Getting inside the mind of dinoiii" ... I think that explains quite a bit about me.
Anyway - on to the more important currently...
I am going to give you some sneak peaks at info I will present soon only because of how you have asked, but this info will be out soon (within a week or so, so I am going to simply ask you to hold it to yourself). Personally, I prefer other SERMS to Nolvadex. Nolvadex gets its acclaim because it was simply the first one marketed, but there are quite more side effects than often noted. There are only 2 authors I know of that share my opinions on Nolvadex dosing in the bodybuilding community (both, well-respected) - BUT BELIEVE ME, IT IS THE RATIONALE THAT IT IS THE ONLY DOSING PATTERN THAT HAS EVER BEEN STUDIED AND EVEN AT THAT LEVEL IT IS NOT WITHOUT SIDE EFFECTS.
I like to preach safety before I do effective
You will likely have a safe + EFFECTIVE PCT even if you only use 20 mg of the Nolva throughout. Ramping down was created by sensationalist writers who wanted to simply look different. Now, I am not certain what cycle you ran, but if it included anything in the C17 alkylated category, just be aware that Nolva has been shown in studies to cause liver problems. I strongly advise some SAMe on board (check out the liver supps category in PCT part II article)...you can add some Milk Thistle, but I do NOT believe NAC to be hugely effective despite overzealous claims. You are going to witness an IN HOUSE study comparing NAC and SAMe in the next article of the series and obviously the results are a reason I make this suggestion to you. It really shouldn't set you back in the $$$ dept either. A supplement carrier in your area will offer you some great quality cheap brands.
As far as the DHEA ... you may find it ideal to get a DHEA saliva test done and judge your DHEA intake based on those results. This is effective in telling a picture of your levels and you may incorporate the product you have into a time after PCT concludes.
As for the Trib inclusion - I personally think it is a great idea. If you want to go Trib alone, while I won't suggest a brand in the article set, I would say that Biotest's Tribex [Controlled Labs Blue Up product purports some good claims, but it is too early to tell with this product] continues to have a large following.
The Fenugreek - you can keep it. I just wouldn't expect superior feats in the way of libido enhancement as some people have said, however, it may offer some benefits in the carb metabolism dept. for repartitioning agents ... just make sure you are ingesting plenty of carbs when you take it as it actually has little value if not taken in with a lot of carbs.
hope all this helps. further questions, let me know.
D_
SECOND ENCOUNTER:
Q: Dinoiii,
Thank you for your reply and the info. I'll keep it to myself until your article comes out, which I'm highly anticipating I must say. My Methyldrol cycle ends this friday and I'll start PCT on Saturday. So if I can I'd like to lay out my whole PCT for you and see if you approve of the dosages and timings. I'm thinking of splitting everything into 2 even doses taken 1 when I wake up and the next 12 hours later. So that would be 10 mg of Nolva in the morning and 10 in the evening. Is this how you would recommend?
Ok I'm just gonna spell everything out here now.
My cycle is just over 3 weeks of SNS Methydrol at 10/20/20. Not a really heavy cycle but it was my first and I've put on about 15 pounds with it so I'm very happy. I took a full gammet of supporting supps too I'll list the ones I'm going to continue to take in the PCT section.
PCT Plan:
Week 1: 20mg Nolva, 75mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 1g Fenugreek
Week 2: 20mg Nolva, 50mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 2g Fenugreek
Week 3: 20mg Nolva, 50mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 3g Fenugreek
Week 4: 20mg Nolva, 25mg Rebound XT, 4 Caps ActivaTe, 4g Fenugreek
-I'm going to also add a Trib product, going to the health food store later this afternoon to find one. I'm not sure on what the dosing should be though yet.
-The ActivaTe I'm taking just as it says on the bottle, 4 caps a day, because I havn't found anything that suggests any different.
Supporting supps:
Now RYR Plus- Red Yeast Rice 1.2g, Milk Thistle Extract (80% Silymarin) 210mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 100mg, CoQ10 60 mg 1x daily
Hawthorn Berry 1.1g 1x daily
Celery Seed 75mg 2x daily
Saw Palmetto 160 mg 2x daily
Body Science Super Greenfoods Multi Vitamin (this includes 50mg Magnesium and 7.5 mg Zinc-Not sure if that is enough)
Essential Muscle Lipids-I like it because it has the whole range of sources. Fish Oil, Borage Seed Oil, Flax Oil....
One question I had was is there anything I should do the last couple days of my cycle to transition to PCT? It seems like it will be a big shock to the body to be taking methyldrol 1 day and the next be on all these other things.
I was also thinking that after the 2nd or 3rd week of PCT if I noticed that I was starting to lose weight I was going to start taking White blood/green bulge stack while I was still on pct. Is that a dumb idea? Should I just wait until after PCT is complete?
I think I've covered everything there. Please feel free to critique any and everything. I'm going to conitue to eat like a horse throughout but keep it really really clean to try and maybe put on a few more pounds and lose some body fat.
Thankyou for your time and sorry this was so long.
A: Hey
Disclaimer: Understand that the information that follows is for informational purposes ONLY and the author of this email intends its use as JUST THAT, a teaching sense. Any liability incurred by the recipient is waived and in total discretion of the recipient - therefore, if the recipient of this email cannot comply with the aforementioned, he/she is to delete it and not read further. Reading further, additionally implies that the recipient has accepted the aforementioned terms and assumes full responsibility for any information to follow. The following information is NOT intended to treat or cure any illness OR disease.
Alright going to try and hit all that you talk about with PCT.
I am happy you have opted out of the Nolvadex heavier dose. It is NOT needed and considering you were using a methylated product, I am even happier. Tamoxifen citrate undergoes extensive hepatic metabolism to:
1-(4-ethanolyloxyphenyl)-1,2-diphenylbut-1-ene (the primary
alcohol)
N-desmethyl tamoxifen
4-hydroxy tamoxifen
4-hydroxy-N-desmethyl tamoxifen
This would continue to wreak havoc on your liver and you'd get NO benefit. The dosing pattern suggested is adequate, but considering the short length of your cycle and the agents, it too could likely be challenged without adequate blood work.
Supporting supps you talk about:
(1) Please, Please STOP USE OF RED YEAST RICE before embarking on any trial of something like tamoxifen.** The two will literally rip apart your liver.*
(2) Alright with the ALA, Milk Thistle, and CoQ10 - in fact, I am thrilled...may add supplement SAMe to help out with the liver in addition to or replacing the Milk Thistle and its research tends to be better supported.
(3) As far as the hawthorn and celery seed are concerned. I would make sure your blood pressure has NOT dropped - this is especially significant in the Post cycle time frame. Keep it monitored. While it is true that BP can rise during cycle, it is not an absolute and the use of these supps - especially in preventative fashion is all that has support not picking them up in the PCT time frame.
(4) All the other stuff I am fine with as far as the zinc and magnesium. I may suggest VPX's CMZ supplement as it is a quality chelate at a relatively cheap price - I am not familiar with the product you mention and cannot say anything not knowing what forms of Zinc and Magnesium are present.
Other questions:
Your transition from cycle to PCT - well, normally I may say that PCT should either begin within the cycle or even PRE-cycle (as you will better see with article III), but many do it and only suffer slight decreases in size. What you could do is consider some glutamine and BCAAs - however, and this is big ... try and take the glutamine at a time of day different than the creatine product if you use one (see below).
WB/GB - just be wary of the 4-OH Isoleucine component of the products as your blood sugars may drop readily because you already intend on the Fenugreek. I would likely recommend a product of the creatine variety NOT having this component in it and it is not a terrible idea to start using it right away actually.
Hope this helps - Good Luck and let me know if there is anything else.
D_
- THIS IS THIS WEEK'S BATCH! KEEP SENDING THEM AND THEY WILL BE ANSWERED AS QUICKLY AS I AM ABLE. UNDERSTAND THAT THEY MAY BE USED FOR THESE KIND OF PIECES OF WORK, HOWEVER I WILL DO MY ABSOLUTE BEST TO MAINTAIN ANONYMITY!!!
BEST OF LUCK TO ALL WITH BODYBUILDING ENDEAVORS (natural and otherwise). D_
[Note: An uncensored verion of Q&A will find its way in with more controversial topics answered. Anabolics and the like included here.]