Paleolithic Diet?

[Jswoll]

Has anyone looked into a paleolithic diet, I was reading the book (more the size of a pamplet) Evobodybuilding by Bob Fritz. It peaked my interest and made a few valid points in between try to sell his suppz.

[dinoiii]

Yes, I have read all work re: Paleolithic-style and what is suggested dieting of the caveman. Valid points? Yup, there are likely valid points to pretty much everything. It is the complete picture unfortunately that sometimes gets lost. What is it you liked/disliked about the work?

[Jswoll]

well, I was wondering if anyone's put the concept into practical use. I, myself, have been switched on for the last three weeks (also not using a microwave at all--kills most nutr. value in foods by cooking inside out), and BF has been dropping, requires less calories (2850 now from 3600 this time last year) to produce the same amount of constant muscle gain (and that's with a year's added muscle mass extra 32lbs from last year, it was a good year for me). I'm eating mostly grass fed buffalo, a little pricy, but good!! But I orginally did this in an attempt to cut fat while intelligently dieting to preserve muscle, but I still am gaining muscle. It makes no sense, but I like it!

[dinoiii]

Personally, I say avoid the microwave due to environmental estrogen exposure, but what you have proposed is its destruction of nutrients. I am curious if you believe cooking in general to not accomplish this feat?

Less calories will reduce bodyfat, but I am shocked if you experienced a concurrent muscle gain with that large defecit. If so, though, by all means - keep it up - why on earth would I challenge what you say has done tremendous things for you?

I wish you luck - keep us posted on success/failure with continued use of both this caloric tally and particular diet please.

[Jswoll]

Personally, I say avoid the microwave due to environmental estrogen exposure, but what you have proposed is its destruction of nutrients. I am curious if you believe cooking in general to not accomplish this feat?

Cooking in general, by external heat (cooking outside to in) DOES deminish the nut. value, but look into the effects various methods and temp. have on creatine in red meats and you'll see how quickly microwaves destroy anything of value found in food, I believe it's 9 sec. to 2- 3 mins. on an open source of heat and with open sources you can vary the temp and slow cook to min. this. Nut.destruction depends greatly on high temps and duration. But I'm not sitting there with a meat therm. watching my steak cook I just go on the general principles, like A is supperior to B, so I use A as my method.
Also what I don't get is given I'm preserving MORE, not all nut. still a calorie is a calorie and a deficit of them is a deficit, I can't explain the end results. I'm even doing a sincere "NO-NO" and cutting on my PCT and using thermo's, it's surprising I'm keeping gains, but on top of that I'm still gaining. I'm not putting pounds of muscle like when I'm on PH's but any gain is a blessing cutting on PCT time, it looks like I'll come out of PCT gaining 2 to 3 lbs lean muscle and dropping a few of fat--if I keep with my clean diet, Sometimes I'm not so good at that, like weekends. Trust me I'm not knocking it but the equation for it doesn't seem to add all up. Also here's a list of suppz I'm running if it helps to help figure out the phenomena, Primobolan Act., Cit. Malate(nutrabolics diablo), ZMA, Multi. vit, Various thermo's, Protein (Musc. Mlk, Dorn Yt's PrPptd, 100%Casn--at night), and Dermasize--I thought I'd experiment with it, and Aminos.

[Aeternitatis]

Microwaves are bad news. I think it goes beyond nutrient destruction and xenoestrogen exposure to an all out denaturing of food. I believe that when the molecules are incited to "speed up" by microwaves (instead of infared), that toxifies the food essentially making it unfit. It's interesting to note: I was talking about this very subject with my girlfriend's dad who used to operate a nuclear reactor. I asked him if he thought it was safe to stand near a microwave while it was on. His response: "I wouldn't even want to be in the same room."

About the paleolithic diet: I'm into that sort of food theory. In my opinion, the best book written on that type of subject is Natural Hormonal Enhancement by Rob Faigin.

[Jswoll]

I asked him if he thought it was safe to stand near a microwave while it was on. His response: "I wouldn't even want to be in the same room."

So I guess propping my b@lls up on it during PCT wasn't the best idea:(

[Aeternitatis]

So I guess propping my b@lls up on it during PCT wasn't the best idea:(
I would think that to self-explanatory. But you could always take them to court over it. I mean, I never saw any section in my microwave's manual that warned against ball-propping.