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Semper Fidelis
January 12th, 2006, 09:51 AM
This question was posted by a member on another board I frequent, but nobody has answered yet. The gist of the question was the following:

Should a person taking sythroid to regulate thyroid function, attempt AAS use? And what AAS can cause a negative reaction on the medication.

I have no clue as to the answer of this one, but we do have a couple of medical folks here that can probably shed some light on the matter. IMO, I would say to try to get an unbiased opinion from a doctor.

Semper Fidelis

dinoiii
January 12th, 2006, 08:18 PM
First off - what's up man? This is an absolutely phenomenal question!

But "unbiased" answer from a doctor? hmmmmm...let's see:

Synthroid = good, AAS = bad

is my interpretation of what you'd likely get in response to that question ya know? That being said, I wonder if I should follow suit and try and sell you on that mantra?


Disclaimer:
If you are talking about it from a pure standpoint of interest's sake, then I will go forward....

If you are talking about it from the standpoint of actually embarking on info I would share in the hypothetical sense, then I must pass on this question....

I await your response!!!

Semper Fidelis
January 13th, 2006, 03:24 AM
Purely for interest's sake. Isnt synthroid a synthetic T4? IMO, it would depend what AAS the person wanted to try. I guess I would tell him to stay away from anabolics such as T3, or any other compounds that manipulate thyroid function, commonly used in cutting cycles. So how's the patient load? When will you be back in town?

Semper Fidelis

dinoiii
January 13th, 2006, 05:37 AM
Ahhhhh, you have given me the green light after the disclaimer. Synthroid, as you stated is synthetic T4...however, someone on long-term anabolics can develop Euthyroid Sick Syndrome (peripheral conversion of T4->T3 defect) type symptoms ... even in conjunction with Synthroid use (which is NOT 100% off-limits per se, but would require a savvy user to accomplish this feat. If someone is on Synthroid and Free T3 levels come back low or even low normal, an adjustment by dropping 50 mcg of the Synthroid and Actually ADDING CYTOMEL (T3) at 12.5 mcg until correction is seen may, in fact be appropriate. As far as which anabolics you would likely not present as much a problem with concurrent use - hmmmm, as I think...I would likely say that nandrolone species may be more the issue or any progestin-type derivative vs. test-type products. This, only by way of potential sides, btw...dual shutdown mechanisms via negative feedback could play beneficial in actuality - the rationale for which I will offer at a later time...must get on to rounds.





btw: Patient load has been sick actually this week - like compensation for the time away. I will be in town this weekend for some business-related affairs [i.e. - trademarking and the like] and a Knighthawks game Saturday night as kinda the pleasure point, but 3 weeks from now, I will be home too for about a week before returning to Chicago for 12 weeks.

Semper Fidelis
January 13th, 2006, 05:02 PM
Ahhhhh, you have given me the green light after the disclaimer. Synthroid, as you stated is synthetic T4...however, someone on long-term anabolics can develop Euthyroid Sick Syndrome (peripheral conversion of T4->T3 defect) type symptoms ... even in conjunction with Synthroid use (which is NOT 100% off-limits per se, but would require a savvy user to accomplish this feat. If someone is on Synthroid and Free T3 levels come back low or even low normal, an adjustment by dropping 50 mcg of the Synthroid and Actually ADDING CYTOMEL (T3) at 12.5 mcg until correction is seen may, in fact be appropriate. As far as which anabolics you would likely not present as much a problem with concurrent use - hmmmm, as I think...I would likely say that nandrolone species may be more the issue or any progestin-type derivative vs. test-type products. This, only by way of potential sides, btw...dual shutdown mechanisms via negative feedback could play beneficial in actuality - the rationale for which I will offer at a later time...must get on to rounds.





btw: Patient load has been sick actually this week - like compensation for the time away. I will be in town this weekend for some business-related affairs [i.e. - trademarking and the like] and a Knighthawks game Saturday night as kinda the pleasure point, but 3 weeks from now, I will be home too for about a week before returning to Chicago for 12 weeks.

Thanks for the response dinoiii. "Synthroid, as you stated is synthetic T4...however, someone on long-term anabolics can develop Euthyroid Sick Syndrome (peripheral conversion of T4->T3 defect) type symptoms." Didnt know about that possibility though . As always you come through with great knowledge on the subject. BTW, what would be the most common dose for synthroid that is prescribed.

Semper Fidelis

dinoiii
January 14th, 2006, 03:54 PM
Synthroid scipts usually range from 50 mcg - 150 mcg. It is not uncommon for a majority of hypothyroid patients to find themselves in the 100-150 mcg range.