View Full Version : Have some prohormones questions?
tman22
January 7th, 2005, 10:23 PM
i am getting ready for my first bodybuilding show on may 7. i am 6' 1" and about 240 lbs currently. i recently purchased a bunch of prohormone products from serious nutrion solutions before the ban starts here. i have used a couple of cycles before of ph's mainly 1-ad and 1-tu for bulking up and puttin on size. i had good results with those products. but because i am taking on this venture of doing my first show i have never taking a cutting stack of ph's before. kind of unsure what to do? i purchased a couple bottles each of sns methyl 1-test, sns methyl 1 dien, and sns mohn xt. i know methly 1 test is for bulking and 1-dein and mohn stack for cutting. also purcashed a couple bottles of 6-oxo for pct. unsure how to use the 1-dien and mohn xt stack though. have an idea though. please give me feedback and advice.
my intended plan:
weeks 18-16: methyl 1 test stack with mohn xt - for some size and strength
weeks 15-13: pct 6-oxo 2 weeks
weeks 12-9: stack methly 1 dien and mohn xt-cutting cycle
weeks 8-5: pct 6-oxo 4 weeks
weeks 4-1: another stack methly 1 dien and mohn xt-cutting cycle
that is my plan, not sure if good or not . please help once again. also how far out from a contest date should you stop ph's or does it even matter?
please help? hopefully steve from sns reads this! need your help?
thanks for your time
wedgylx
January 8th, 2005, 12:20 AM
Thats alot of ph's in a short period of time. If I were you I'd probably shorten it. I'll let Steve comment further since they are his products and he knows ahell-of-a-lot more than me. Just seems harsh on your liver from my point of view.
Also I'd HIGHLY recommend Nolva here, you're putting your body through hell, I'd get the best stuff. You're also going to need some sort of liver supplement.
max von
January 8th, 2005, 12:29 AM
Wedg
that is a really tough one you and steve now alot more about those prohormones then i do but i agree that seems like alot and you are right make sure you get some PCT your bodys going to need it
max von
dinoiii
January 8th, 2005, 04:06 AM
While I have my own views on whether that is a lot, I think I question more the notion of if you want to be on a PH the week prior to your show.
I would probably dump the cycle you plan closest to your show (M-dien + MOHN ) and go with more "traditional" stacks if you can.
SNS8778
January 8th, 2005, 03:23 PM
i am getting ready for my first bodybuilding show on may 7. i am 6' 1" and about 240 lbs currently. i recently purchased a bunch of prohormone products from serious nutrion solutions before the ban starts here. i have used a couple of cycles before of ph's mainly 1-ad and 1-tu for bulking up and puttin on size. i had good results with those products. but because i am taking on this venture of doing my first show i have never taking a cutting stack of ph's before. kind of unsure what to do? i purchased a couple bottles each of sns methyl 1-test, sns methyl 1 dien, and sns mohn xt. i know methly 1 test is for bulking and 1-dein and mohn stack for cutting. also purcashed a couple bottles of 6-oxo for pct. unsure how to use the 1-dien and mohn xt stack though. have an idea though. please give me feedback and advice.
my intended plan:
weeks 18-16: methyl 1 test stack with mohn xt - for some size and strength
weeks 15-13: pct 6-oxo 2 weeks
weeks 12-9: stack methly 1 dien and mohn xt-cutting cycle
weeks 8-5: pct 6-oxo 4 weeks
weeks 4-1: another stack methly 1 dien and mohn xt-cutting cycle
that is my plan, not sure if good or not . please help once again. also how far out from a contest date should you stop ph's or does it even matter?
please help? hopefully steve from sns reads this! need your help?
thanks for your time
I am going to offer some suggestions. After this post, if you want to talk detailed about pre-contest preperation, e-mail me at the address in my sig.
From what I understand, you are 18 weeks out according to your layout. This is what I advise the individuals to do that I work with personally.
I will be setting this up in reverse order from you, meaning that your weeks 18 will be my week 1 or the start date of the cycle. Here we go:
Weeks 1 - 2: Methyl 1-Test 20 mg./4-AD Xt 600 - 900 mg. per day
Weeks 3 - 4: 4-AD Xt (600 to 900 mg per day)
Weeks 5 - 6: repeat weeks 1 and 2
Weeks 7 - 10: Creatine E2 Matrix (PCT also)
Weeks 11-14: MOHN XT (16 mg. daily) w/ Methyl-1-Dien 4 to 8 mg. daily
Weeks 15-18: Creatine E2 Matrix and PCT
I will be glad to help you further but pre-contest can turn in very in depth, so just send me an e-mail if you need help or have any questions.
max von
January 8th, 2005, 08:55 PM
see told you that steve would get back to you on this, follow what he tells you he knows what hes doing and it will work
max von
tman22
January 8th, 2005, 09:40 PM
thanks alot for your help steve and other guys. i appreicated it. also any big precontest tips you could share would help also.
max von
January 8th, 2005, 09:47 PM
steves your man on that on hes got that down
max von
wedgylx
January 8th, 2005, 09:49 PM
thanks alot for your help steve and other guys. i appreicated it. also any big precontest tips you could share would help also.
Just the obvious....shave, tan, oil up
max von
January 8th, 2005, 09:51 PM
and after that you should have alot of fun LOL
max von
italndiesel
January 8th, 2005, 10:02 PM
know how your body reacts to carbs with loading and depleting and also know about draining excess water as well....i would attempt to use a dht or a methyl 5 aa before the contest as well
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