Anadrox?

[jCoonan]

Has anyone actually tried Anadrox? If it's legit it would be number one on my list

[SeriousNutritionSolutions]

Anadrox Pump & Burn worked great for me!

I lost 21 pounds and gained hard muscle in just one cycle. When I was slightly over weight, I used Anadrox and lost WAY more than I planned on. What I like the most is, I never lost and muscle, just the fat.

I would give it an A+ for anyone trying to lose weight while gaining muscle.


-But like any other supplement, it is not magic, you have to work aswell.

[Jswoll]

No chain-jerk'n SNS? 4 Real? 21 pounds, what was your start BF%?

[Clickster]

This is the SNS who posted that, I was asked to change my name.

I am not chain jerkin ya, I was 225, and I lost 21 pounds in 1 cycle. I am currently at 180 pounds since that cycle was quite some time ago. Anadrox with a good diet is AWESOME if you are trying to lose some weight while putting on hard muscle.

If you arent trying to lose weight however, don't mess with Anadrox, get some good stuff from SNS. :)

[Clickster]

The cycle I tried it with was with the T-BOMB II and it was the 224 caps bottle of Anadrox.

[Jswoll]

Clickster, I just picked up anadrox so help me if you BS'd i'm gonna...
I'm gonna run it with some BSN Nitrix (for added No support and Creatine) and MAN Vaporize I think it'll be real interesting.

[B.I.G.]

Anadrox Pump & Burn worked great for me!

I lost 21 pounds and gained hard muscle in just one cycle. When I was slightly over weight, I used Anadrox and lost WAY more than I planned on. What I like the most is, I never lost and muscle, just the fat.

I would give it an A+ for anyone trying to lose weight while gaining muscle.


-But like any other supplement, it is not magic, you have to work aswell.

How many caps did you run? 4 or 8 a day

[Clickster]

2 doses of 4 caps.

I wasn't BSing Jswoll. lol

Take 4 upon wakening, and 4 in mid afternoon.

[cole_jacked]

jswoll keep us informed i am curious to see if thie dude is BSing or what...seems alittle unreal

[Clickster]

jswoll keep us informed i am curious to see if thie dude is BSing or what...seems alittle unreal

It isnt unreal to do that if you know how to eat and train. The people that don't do that are the ones who eat junk food and don't train correctly. This stuff works great, but like any other supplement you have to do your part aswell.

[Jswoll]

Alright, I'll be starting this stack in two 1/2 weeks, and will be posting up results.

[Jswoll]

Anyone have any idea if it would be necessary to throw in a stimulant with this cut? I don't see where it could hurt, only help.

[Clickster]

I don't find it necessary, but I agree it could only help.

[Jswoll]

I'm gonna run it without to start but I may add on SciFit Thermogen II after the first week and maybe some Avant Labs LipoDerm-ULTRA near the third week of the stack. This is gonna kick off my first major cut of the year getting ready for summer and what not so we'll see.

[Clickster]

That sounds like a great plan, I really think you are going to like it bro.

[Jswoll]

That sounds like a great plan, I really think you are going to like it bro.
I hope so, I need to cut up bad, BF% this winter has gotten out of hand a little, too much bulking this winter, not quite as clean a diet as I should have run in the fall followed by a clean enough winter bulking diet has let fat on instead of working it off, so after the next two weeks bulking I'm offically hitting the cut time of the year..

[Clickster]

I will have finished my 2nd cycle of Anadrox in about 1 1/2 weeks. I have been very happy with the results I have seen thus far. My arms have never been so pumped before, and after workouts. I have also lost a great deal of belly fat that I was trying to get rid of. I do like this product. I know a lot of people do not care for MHP very much, but Anadrox Pump & Burn is one from them that I do like, and would try again if I were to try another "cutting" cycle.

I am sure there are other great cutting products out there aswell, this just happened to have been one that I have tried.

Good Luck with your cycle of it Jswoll, can't wait to hear what you think about it.

[Jswoll]

Good Luck with your cycle of it Jswoll, can't wait to hear what you think about it.
Well, I took the first dose today, a little jittery believe it or not and hand sweat--this is a good indicator of quality thermos, at least for me. No WO yet on it so I don't know how the "pump" shall be, but it has the "burn" of a top rank supp, at least at first dose. More to come, so far so good!

[Clickster]

I told ya, it is some good stuff.

[Jswoll]

I told ya, it is some good stuff.
We'll see, fair and honest trial on my part though.

[Clickster]

Give it about 4 days before you really start noticing the Pumps, but you should start feeling the energy and the burn almost immediately.

[Kingdime1332]

JSwoll how is this going?

[Clickster]

I am curious as hell also.

I am the one who reccomended this product to him. DON'T LET ME DOWN MHP!

lol!

I love MHP's Fat Loss products, I think they are on the money. However, I can't stand anything they make that is for bodybuilding. Just my opinion.

I loved Anadrox Pump & Burn though, and I am hoping Jswoll will agree with me on it being a good product.

[Jswoll]

First WO on it, NICE bi + tri pumps, after doing incline bench serve headache--not saying it's related at the moment, but am throwing it out there...It was kinda hard to isolate the cause of it when my freak'n head hurt so bad. Noticing a steady shedding on fat (in conjunction with good diet) and morning after first WO bi's held a cold density. So far my rating on this is a 4 outta 5, subject to change at any moment of course. More as it develops.

[dinoiii]

Doing a log, JSwoll? I am curious what kind of diet you are using and how it compares to that of Clickster. That being said, adding a lot of extraneous items clouds true effects of the actual product, but you may have some alternative thoughts...I'd love to hear.

[Jswoll]

Doing a log, JSwoll? I am curious what kind of diet you are using and how it compares to that of Clickster. That being said, adding a lot of extraneous items clouds true effects of the actual product, but you may have some alternative thoughts...I'd love to hear.
Not really a log, per se. True, isolation would be route to go for an absolute fair test along with a consistent diet (mine is still fluctuating--playing with some of my own ideas, before the second phase I emailed you about D), but I'm giving this "as fair" of a test as I can; Swoll will very rarely isolate a particular supplement for an all out balanced trial, my job is to create the "best" results for me through my own concepts, ideas...well see my slight rant in the free will rant for more on that, I digress. My diet this week is 1750 calories (fairly def. for a guy my size--but muscle retention is good), ratios working with are 50/30/20 (p/c/f). 7 meals a day about 2 hours apart. Dino, not all that scientific, I'm just noting observations to help shed a little light on Anadrox for everyone all hyped and buzzing about it at the moment.

[Clickster]

My diet consisted of
clean carbs-- wheat,oats,brown rice,milk
protein-- chicken,fish,whey

About 6 small meals a day.

That was basically it, I never ate directly before a workout, however I tried to get AT LEAST 50G of clean carbs in and 40G of protein in directly after my workout.

That was basically my diet while on the Anadrox.

[Jswoll]

To expound on diet, my fluctuation comes to play on WO days and the day after (doing HIT every third day, ie Mon Thur Sun...). Calories go up 250-300 the day after, ratios stay the same. On WO day I up the carb ratio 10 and knock prot and fat by 5 each. Take anadrox (4tabs) by itself 1hr 15 mins before WO. Infusion 45 mins before WO with BCAA, CEE(just 1g). After (normally 15-20mins) 100% whey(double dose), more BCAA, my after WO combo (royal jelly, gelatin, chlorella, vit C, supplemental K and NA). A banana will soon follow this after stomach has settled. Later in the night 2 or so hours ZMA. Diet is mostly tuna with wheat crackers (yes, D, I've relinquished the failed palolithic diet--will resume toying with it after summer, winter when my diet gets flex.), chicken with rice, veggies (a lot of greens), and WATER. More if I think of it on my diet.

-Swoll

[Jswoll]

Also using powder gatorade to work my carb intake pre(30g) and after(50g--like click) (only problem I have with this is the sodium content--but I'm not getting off on that tangent). Also a note should be made that I am doing the 3 day HIT program but also I'm using an electronic muscle stim. device at low freq. with short duration and a rest of 2 times my duration the day before WO. Dino, probably jump on me for throwing an added variable into the mix, but this is actually an on going test in practice of a few theories I have. Since this is qualitative not quantitative I feel this will not skew the observations since I'm familar with the degree it will effect me.

Dino, I'm surprised you haven't disected Anadrox yet--and I've noticed something when you do take apart a supp, don't see too many mentions of half life playing factor in your write ups. Just thought it's odd you didn't jump on taking it apart.

[Clickster]

I have used the same diet on it, as I did without it. It helps, I will most likely be buying it again when I run another cut cycle.
The only reason I wouldn't buy it again on the next one would be just because I might be curious to try something else.

[dinoiii]

Dino, I'm surprised you haven't disected Anadrox yet--and I've noticed something when you do take apart a supp, don't see too many mentions of half life playing factor in your write ups. Just thought it's odd you didn't jump on taking it apart.

I told you...I do NOT talk about various products, solely ingredients (unless challenged of course, see - SuperFats thread). I have done plenty of write ups - 1 at length in particular about the concurrent use of Caffeine + NO supps, why and when it would work and how the fundamental application of such supplement would likely gain greater efficacy in the past. This discussion was heavy in the cP450 and half-life talk I believe.




Another note: I also do NOT get too involved in threads that are logs of people as people tend to take it more as a personal attack, though I really have their best interest in mind. You know, people invest in supplements of the fat loss variety (again "supplements") yet don't ADMITTEDLY have a diet in order - I don't see this as even remotely SAVVY.

[Jswoll]

I told you...I do NOT talk about various products, solely ingredients (unless challenged of course, see - SuperFats thread).
This is true but I forget it at times. Didn't remember the halflife portion of it but I will look back, my memory as of late hasn't been great. But I personally see other problems with it, but yes that was one point. But I won't get us off on this, I shall stick with my observations.
You have a good point on not getting involved in anyone's log, I've noticed that too, but this isn't a log it's my observations--and this is Swoll you're talking about, I take nothing personally.

[Jswoll]

Nothing to really report over the weekend as far as observations go, good pump last night, still reducing well, but nothing major at the moment. I'll try to give an idea of how it goes each week (meaning ending on tues) in terms of poundage.

[Jswoll]

aesthetically much better with only a week, in terms of muscle retention any loss is neg. according to my count, fat loss is slightly less than 2lbs., roughly a 0.7 reduction in BF%. I feel this is fair, but the strong reduction in calories tends to make me think perhaps a little more fat loss and some degree of muscle, but I guess I'd rather live with this instead.

[Jswoll]

That being said, adding a lot of extraneous items clouds true effects of the actual product, but you may have some alternative thoughts...I'd love to hear.
I was rereading this thread, I did mention adding more than I really did to this stack, now I'm going back to fully address this, no other thermo's, thyroid support, topical, etc. added. I did add the nitrix at alternative intervals (first thing in the morning and right before bed, 2 tabs each dose) due to what I feel are half life issues with Anadrox (3 tabs 2 times a day, and 1g CEE with last dose) , I couldn't do additional Anadrox* due to the timing at night and the stims--so I improvised, the morning dose was just cost efficient due to having had bought the bottle! I feel this will extend the vasodilation of NO and keep the level of L-Arginine in the body saturated, also nitrix added CEE too. The Vaporize is in the mix, a pill a meal so to speak, that MAY "cloud" the results. In retrospect I would have added ALCAR at 2g(at least a day), ALA (and some supplemental biotin to go with it), but...
That's my spew for the moment.

-Swoll

*other little seemingly insignificate reasons like VOSO4 content (2.5mg a dose), yes I've seen MUCH higher (60mgED, diabetics 100mgED), but I'm avoiding cumlative effect in the bones--I like staying under 8mgED, and the kelp-iodine thing--but I say this is me being more knit-picky than a full reason in and of itself.

[Jswoll]

brief week update, bad weekend, diet slip on Sunday--I was on a lake on a boat with a few buddies and beatufiul women...and a few beers, 8--rolling rock green lights, but that said still a good week result wise, a gain in muscle! according to the tape not the scale in the chest, a loss of 3 lbs of fat--with a slight lapse in diet! I am really loving this right now, with half the cycle ran, gonna get hardcore this week with my vaction--I actually do much better training in solitude at my cabin, focus.

[TheKoos]

Any update on the Anadrox?

[Jswoll]

yeah, I finished it out last friday, Swoll's attention span isn't great so I kinda lost track of this thread, total loss was around 11 lbs. but near the last week more was muscle than fat, but I attribute that to my own ignorant slacking off. I will be using this product again I liked it.

[djpikey20]

so what sns or what ever his new name is was actually tellin the truth and its a great product to run for loosing weight and keepin the muscle...?

[Jswoll]

I think click, formerly sns, may have had better than average returns but I really liked it.

[TheKoos]

I will have to put this on the list of things to try.

Thanks

[Jswoll]

I will have to put this on the list of things to try.

Thanks
Before you do, K, PM me first like all things I've come up with some tweaks to better this.

[TheKoos]

Sure thing. Thanks.