Beer!

[jnaz331]

Anyone ever heard of beer being a good post workout carb drink. I read a little blurb somewhere once and just remembered it while reading thru the weed thread. Maybe like Guiness, it has higher carbs than other beers, "Guiness for strength" ,like the old posters with the iron worker carrying an I-beam on his shoulder. I know alcohol hinders protein synthesis but would just one beer,post workout. I wouldnt mix it with protein though, or would I....
Also heard something about the carbonation doing something positive, dont remember. 2 drunk.ha
Anyone hear of this,
where are the science guys.
Help us drink more beer.

[hardcorefitness]

that would be great, buttttt sorry, try again :rolleyes:

[jnaz331]

I am going to do this.
I will log results of a 6 week cycle.

[usf97j4x4]

I am going to do this.
I will log results of a 6 week cycle.

Be sure note any changes in body composition... :D

[GunzandBunz]

just a note, guiness is actually much lighter than people would think for a dark beer. i want to say well shy of 200 calories for a 12oz bottle. I would say go with somthing like an arrogant bastard or an imperial stout. Hops have shown anti carcinogenic properties as of late so that may bode well in general.

[jnaz331]

the cals are lower but the carbs are higher.
That arrogant bastard is freakin' potent though, you aint lyin'.

[neonhypoxia]

I'll have my liver send a get well soon card to your liver.

[Massivehunt]

Jay cutler uses beer for post workout;) FYI

[GunzandBunz]

potent indeed. But ive had beers in the 20% abv range before. half a twelve ounce bottle and im good.:D

as for the get well soon card be sure to send it c/o mr buttersworth. otherwise my nosey gi tract will probably sh*t it out with the other junk mail.;)

[usf97j4x4]

Watch out for that dogfish head 120 minute IPA - 20%abv

[GunzandBunz]

ya buddy. dogfish is one of my faves.

as for the carbs the deciding factor for carb content comes down to final gravity. the higher the final gravity, the higher the carbs.

[jnaz331]

Ever have that Delirium, its got the pink elephant on it. Its pretty strong ,youre supposed to drink it in a special glass.
Honestly ,when the rare oppurtunity strikes, I like to throw down coors lights like stone cold steve austin. OH hell yeah.

[IllegalMuchachos]

Sooooo jnaz..... a yay or nay for a 6 week beer log?

[GunzandBunz]

Sooooo jnaz..... a yay or nay for a 6 week beer log?
id be interested in seeing a log

and oh yes on the delirium. Ive had three different ones from them. Nocturnum, the dubbel. Tremens, the tripel. And noel, the spiced christmas ale. and all were excellent. lately ive been on a hop kick and with all of the tasty IPAs out there i got so much on my list.:o :D

as far as a log goes i would say try one day beer one day not or even a bit more in between. but no less than three days a week. ;)

[EarlyCuyler]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssss
Boooooooooooooooooooooooot!!!

[usf97j4x4]

id be interested in seeing a log

and oh yes on the delirium. Ive had three different ones from them. Nocturnum, the dubbel. Tremens, the tripel. And noel, the spiced christmas ale. and all were excellent. lately ive been on a hop kick and with all of the tasty IPAs out there i got so much on my list.:o :D

as far as a log goes i would say try one day beer one day not or even a bit more in between. but no less than three days a week. ;)

I'm a total hop-head. Lately St. Peters IPA has been good to me

[silly#1]

It may be just me, but as long as I dont get sh*t faced, I feel stronger the next day. As long as I am only drinking beer, I also feel like I look stronger in the mirror. Even my abs look better, when my diet is better than it is now. I always wondered if any one else experienced this??

[GunzandBunz]

i have noticed the leaning out look in the morning but to me my strength in reality is never fullly there the next day. I either lose some strength or the endurance lags some but I guess thats to be expected. :rolleyes:

[GunzandBunz]

havent had or seen that one in these woods. Ive been stuck on st lupulin from odell recently. I ll try a bomber of some other stuff occasionally but always end up back with that one.

Speaking of hops i had an aged arrogant bastard the other day and for me it doesnt age very well. the hops mellowed quite a bit and I started picking up an immense anise taste and persoanlly i cant stand anise.

[usf97j4x4]

I look stronger in the mirror. Even my abs look better

diuretic effect? lol

havent had or seen that one in these woods. Ive been stuck on st lupulin from odell recently. I ll try a bomber of some other stuff occasionally but always end up back with that one.

Speaking of hops i had an aged arrogant bastard the other day and for me it doesnt age very well. the hops mellowed quite a bit and I started picking up an immense anise taste and persoanlly i cant stand anise.

Yuck, i am not a fan of anise either. I like the more citrusy notes

[GunzandBunz]

diuretic effect? lol



Yuck, i am not a fan of anise either. I like the more citrusy notes
you gotta try the st lupulin than. its absolutely delicous. think orange blossom and lemon grass.:D as it warms you get a nice biscuity malt. crisp short finish. k i gotta drink.

[jnaz331]

Illegal , I thinks its a nay.
I doubt a beer after workout 4 or 5 times a week for 6 weeks would do anything at all, and I dont know how to begin trying to get a protein shake down at the same time.
but it is a good excuse to sneak some beers in.


Beerfest qoute from the guy on the British team, "youre all fur coat and no trousers , you are".. or was he australian?

[GunzandBunz]

he was british.

why not just rely on the beer. skip the shake. the yeast will give you amino acids. ever hear of people supplementing with brewers yeast?

[TaticalFighting]

You do realize that there is pry a beer company looking at these forums, not just ours but alot of them, they are going to be coming out with a "test beer" or a "protein beer" or something like that... hell you never know muscletech just might...

hey if your feeling special one weekend... get the bong out... put a schoop of protein in it... along with MGD 64 and bong it... you will be good to go... lol jp...

[silly#1]

he was british.

why not just rely on the beer. skip the shake. the yeast will give you amino acids. ever hear of people supplementing with brewers yeast?
Seems like this thread is being seriously taken into consideration for follow up. I gotta tell you I feel not so bad at the gym after one day of drinking. But on vacation, even if supplements/diet are in check, I start to feel it after two or three days. Strength suffers, I start getting a gut even with cardio. My focus shifts from training, to getting fckd up however, everyone is different and you may just want 3 or 4 beers. Also I am totaly unqualified... In your avatar, you look hard.... It would be ashame to loose that.. Just a thought.

[EarlyCuyler]

so we've had a debate on wether or not beer is a good post workout bev, and if weed is a good NO supp.

Next thing you'll see is after a long night of crystal meth I find my strength is Insane I feel like a rock star!

Or "my diet is completely in check I do coke in the morning, a line of coke for lunch, a reasonable dinner and a line of coke before bed."

[GunzandBunz]

so we've had a debate on wether or not beer is a good post workout bev, and if weed is a good NO supp.

Next thing you'll see is after a long night of crystal meth I find my strength is Insane I feel like a rock star!

Or "my diet is completely in check I do coke in the morning, a line of coke for lunch, a reasonable dinner and a line of coke before bed."
ive got friends and seen people myself who will do a line or two during thier workouts. Granted they are taking some serious gear to go with it but they say it helps and when you see them put up the numbers they do it only makes you want sell off all of your possesions and develop a drug problem that much more.

[usf97j4x4]

allz i knoz iz i got swoll on dat der beer tech *flex*

[jnaz331]

what have i done

[ma(i)n(e)iac]

I don't drink alcohol AT ALL. I simply don't like the way it makes me feel afterward. Anyone who uses ph's should AVOID all alcohol consumption. Anyone who is HARDCORE SERIOUS about their body and/or training should avoid ALL alcohol as alcohol and really put the breaks on protien synth and other muscle byuilding chemical reactions within the body...;) :cool: :eek:

[neonhypoxia]

so we've had a debate on wether or not beer is a good post workout bev, and if weed is a good NO supp.

Next thing you'll see is after a long night of crystal meth I find my strength is Insane I feel like a rock star!

Or "my diet is completely in check I do coke in the morning, a line of coke for lunch, a reasonable dinner and a line of coke before bed."

I'm pretty sure the cocaine diet is pateneted by princess Fergie.

[TaticalFighting]

what have i done

Created the next debate... we needed this...

anyways... I don't care what gear/drugs they are taking there bro....It aint happening, I been around to many ppl that were doing lines of coke and such, and i dont want to be around it. anyways, if you seen the people that get bad on coke or any other drug its bad news jsut for different reasons...

with Myth... OMG you ever had to take one of those big SOB's down while on that? it's like trying to tackle a damn Semi Truck... Thank god I kicked him in his knee and he couldnt get up... its a steriod induced adreniline rush... no sh*t!

[silly#1]

I don't drink alcohol AT ALL. I simply don't like the way it makes me feel afterward. Anyone who uses ph's should AVOID all alcohol consumption. Anyone who is HARDCORE SERIOUS about their body and/or training should avoid ALL alcohol as alcohol and really put the breaks on protien synth and other muscle byuilding chemical reactions within the body...;) :cool: :eek:
I respect that, and admire that self control. Out of curiosity, how do you loosen up?

[EarlyCuyler]

I'm pretty sure the cocaine diet is pateneted by princess Fergie.

Just think an assload of plastic surgery and illegal stimulants and you too can be Fergalicious :rolleyes:

[silly#1]

My guess is that all that urinating that you do when your drinking has some benifit to the body. I am refering to scocial, drinkers, or those that dont drink very often. When I am drinking, I think of all these body cleanse products. If you stay hydrated while you drink (beer preferably), there has to be some benifit.. Liver stress excluded, I think there is some health benifits.... I would appreciate it if someone could refrute this for the sake of sootin the sh*t. I wonder if drinking removes toxins from the body.

[jnaz331]

completely unscientific thoughts from me as usual.
Im sure youre doing some filtering by p'ing so much but if youre cleaning out toxins with toxins(alcohol). arent you just breaking even, so to speak.

[silly#1]

Man, I dont know, it seems like beer is all natural. The toxic part is as you said, alcohol. The thing is when your, (excuse crudeness here), pissin' after a few, its clear. I even read somwhere that drinking moderatly before a drug test will help clear you up, depending on how long you used drugs.. I think its more of a dehydration / liver thing. I am no expert, but to clear your system from time to time, it seems like beer could do the job. Possibly a step to good health? who knows....

[GunzandBunz]

alchohol will dehydrate you but thats what drinking water alongside it is for.:rolleyes:

[neonhypoxia]

Man, I dont know, it seems like beer is all natural. The toxic part is as you said, alcohol. The thing is when your, (excuse crudeness here), pissin' after a few, its clear. I even read somwhere that drinking moderatly before a drug test will help clear you up, depending on how long you used drugs.. I think its more of a dehydration / liver thing. I am no expert, but to clear your system from time to time, it seems like beer could do the job. Possibly a step to good health? who knows....

Um, no. Alcohol is a diuretic, but that's not really a good thing. In addition to stressing your liver simply from it trying to break it down its also stressing your kidneys by forcing them to remove more fluid. Even from the stand point of "detoxification" or whatever they call that crap it still isn't a good idea. Your liver and kidneys consider ethanol a priority and will work less on removing other materials to get rid of the ethanol first. If anything it has exactly the opposite effect of what you are stating.

[jnaz331]

There ya have it
jnaz science -0
neos noggin - 1,000,000

[jnaz331]

IF i could give you a dollar for every nugget you drop , I would.

[silly#1]

Um, no. Alcohol is a diuretic, but that's not really a good thing. In addition to stressing your liver simply from it trying to break it down its also stressing your kidneys by forcing them to remove more fluid. Even from the stand point of "detoxification" or whatever they call that crap it still isn't a good idea. Your liver and kidneys consider ethanol a priority and will work less on removing other materials to get rid of the ethanol first. If anything it has exactly the opposite effect of what you are stating.
Well, that makes complete sence. What came to mind was these body cleanse products, thats the unprofessional connection I was making. But then again, those cleansing products dont contain beer, and like you said not a good idea. I was watching a late night promotion for a colon cleanse prduct. They had a woman who removed like 10lbs. of somthing that looked like a snake. my bad for crudeness, but it was thick green organic material built up in her intestines.This made me think of the day after I drink, and the evacuation of your gastric contents, its pretty insane, I know everyone knows what I am refering to. Feels like your cleaning it out. I guess your post explains that... Oh well enough of this....

[VolPower]

liquid pipe snake... or butt snake

[ma(i)n(e)iac]

thank god someone posted in a dif thread in this section. was getting tired of seeing my thread there day after day after day...:rolleyes: