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shuttaLCD
December 18th, 2005, 01:07 AM
hey guys i will be keeping a log on SNS's Arginine2 Matrix..It is an NO product that the owner of the company has sent to me to try...
I would first off like to thank Steve over at SNS for letting me do this. And then of course thank you guys for takeing the time out to read/follow the effects and progress..
I will be on a cutting diet for this. (need to loose some extra fat for power lifting)
STATS-----
17yrs old
6'0
189lbs
Bench-?? havent takein it in a while but i will be getting to done soon
squat-?? i have an injured right knee and will not max out
I WILL BE GETTING MEASUREMENTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE
I plan on starting the A2 on Monday. I will not be able to go to the gym over the holidays but i have a bench and dumbells at my house that i will have to make do with until then.
Supplement review
Arginine E2 Matrix utilizes ethyl ester technology to bring you not only the beginning of a new generation in nitric oxide enhancing compounds, but a complete new era. Containing a precise ratio of Arginine Ethyl Ester HCI to Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI, along with the supporting nutrient Norvaline, Arginine E2 Matrix dramatically raises the bar when it comes to the classification of nitric oxide enhancing compounds and formulas.
Common User Feedback:
- Increased Strength*
- Increased Lean Muscle*
- Improved Endurance*
- Dramatic ‘Pumps’*
- Increased Muscle Fullness*
- Increased Vascularity*
Product Advantages Compared to ‘Old School’ N.O. Compounds:
- Increased Absorption and Bioavailability*
- No Need to Swallow Handfuls of Horsepills*
- No Need for Massive Dosages of Active Compounds*
- Excellent Vasodilation and ‘Pumps’ as compared to Arginine AKG (the main ingredient in the most popular Nitric Oxide products)*
- Excellent feedback from individuals that were previously N.O. ‘non-responders’*
- Synergistic effects with Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI (see the ingredient profile below)*
- The addition of the arginase inhibitor Norvaline (see the ingredient profile below)*
- And Much More
Ingredient Profiles:
Arginine Ethyl Ester HCI:
In simplistic terms, Arginine Ethyl Ester HCI is an advanced form of Arginine that allows for enhanced absorption and bioavailability, thereby eliminating the need to take massive doses of huge tablets associated with many N.O. or ‘Nitric Oxide’ products on the market today.
In more technical terms, Arginine Ethyl Ester HCI is Arginine bonded to an ester. (Esters are formed by a reaction between carboxylic acid and alcohol.) This esterfication process allows the Arginine to pass through the digestive system intact. This is an important issue because many forms of Arginine must be mega dosed because they severely degrade when ingested and hence users do not get the maximum benefit from using them.
Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI:
The primary reason for the addition of Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI to the Arginine E2 Matrix formula is due to its synergistic effects with Arginine. Like with the esterfication of Arginine, the esterfication of Ornithine allows for more Ornithine to pass through the digestive system intact allowing it to work more effectively at lower doses.
Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI primarily increases muscle protein synthesis allowing protein to be more effective due to increased uptake. It may also increase the blood plasma level of Arginine, making it very synergistic in the Arginine E2 Matrix formulation. In theory, Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI may also help stimulate the production of growth hormone. Another important note is that high doses of Ornithine consumption have been the cause of gastric discomfort, making Ornithine Ethyl Ester HCI due to the esterfication process allowing the Ornithine to pass through the digestive system resulting in lower doses being used more efficiently.
Norvaline:
Norvaline is an analogue of the branched chain amino acid Valine. Norvaline inhibits the arginase enzyme, thus increasing arginine concentrations for enhanced conversion ability.
thanks, and i will have the stats up ASAP
-Shutta
snakemw
December 18th, 2005, 09:34 AM
good luck man. if this product is as good as the rest of steves i know you will be satisfied.
mcsteveof2h2h
December 18th, 2005, 07:42 PM
good luck. look forward to seeing how this one goes!
italionstallionl
December 18th, 2005, 08:34 PM
cool, looking forward to seeing how you like it
geyer41
December 18th, 2005, 08:53 PM
looking forward to your results..im debating on whether to get white blood or the A2 matrix hopefully your review will help
wedgylx
December 18th, 2005, 11:18 PM
cant wait to hear back bro.
geyer, I'd go with A2 matrix, i posted in the other thread about it
shuttaLCD
December 19th, 2005, 08:51 AM
OK guys,
I have a little more info.
Bench-255
I am not able to get measurements right now because my brothers cut up my Myotape..
I did get some fast track digital calipers for X-mas and i took my BF% it was 10.7%..
I also decided to go ahead and NOT cut.. i will still be on a lean bulk diet.
Doseing
4-upon wakeing
2-35mins pre w/o
2-before bed
OTHER SUPPS:
Pure CEE
GNC MegaMen
Champion Nutrition WHEY--MmMmMm--GOOD
Flax Oil
I will be back later to report my first workout.
-Shutta
garb
December 19th, 2005, 12:20 PM
looking good shutta
good luck and looking foward to the review
shuttaLCD
December 19th, 2005, 03:49 PM
OK just got some measurments
chest-39 1/2"
arm (unflexd)-13"
thigh-24"
calf-16 1/2"
waist-33"
neck-16"
-Shutta
snakemw
December 19th, 2005, 10:28 PM
sounds good man. cant wait to see how the workouts go.
shuttaLCD
December 19th, 2005, 11:20 PM
Well my workout today went good.
Not much to report besides that it was a good one.. did Arms.
-Shutta
dinoiii
December 20th, 2005, 12:34 PM
I also decided to go ahead and NOT cut.. i will still be on a lean bulk diet.
I like this decision for various reasons, but namely the product's potential to produce increased vascularity could skew perceived results. I am now more on board.
dinoiii
December 20th, 2005, 12:36 PM
Not much to report besides that it was a good one.. did Arms.
Well, what was "good" about it - namely in reference to how you felt the supplement aided it?
Effects / Any sides?
While I understand it is early, again FREE product means you should work for your essential offering!
shuttaLCD
December 20th, 2005, 01:45 PM
I understand dinoiii it was my first day on the product and first time working out with it.
I ment that it was just a good lifting day. I overall felt really well but cant say i felt any effects of the product yet.
I am going to do chest later in the day today. and i will have some wdights for you all.
Dinoii i am going to send you an email if you could take a look at it. I am really worried about this (and for you guys its nothing about this product or my health my dad is sick)
thanks,
-Shutta
P.S. could you shoot me your email via PM? thanks
dinoiii
December 20th, 2005, 02:03 PM
PM is open with 4 slots. If more personal - perhaps email would be best.
While it is sprayed around this forum, I will leave it here again:
absivs_revenge@hotmail.com
If there is a way to aid from afar, I can guarantee you I will, but I am hoping he has been seen by his own MD "first" (where I could make approximations off an examining physician versus going blindly) if it is to that level of concern.
shuttaLCD
December 20th, 2005, 03:59 PM
First off Dinoiii you've got mail..
Now with the workout,
Chest
Bench
135X7-warm up
135X7- Warm up
185X5
205X5
215X4
220X3
225X2
230X1
185X8-finisher
Dumbell press
50'sX7
50'sX7
50'sX7
50'sX7
Dumbell Flies
20'sX7
20'sX7
20'sX7
20'sX7
I need mroe weight for this but i dont have 25's or 30's i need to get some the next thing is 35's.
push ups
2 sets till failure
Wide Grip bench
95X5
95X5
95X5
Havent done these in a while so i went kinda light and i only had my 13yr old brother spotting me.
Over all it was a great workout. After takeing my 2nd dose of the product about 35mins later i felt a little hot. I could actually feel the blood flowing through me. Yea i know that might sound wierd but i could. During my workout my chest filled up pretty fast and i still have a pump going on. So the first signs are starting to show.. And they are good ones :)
So everything went well
-Shutta
snakemw
December 20th, 2005, 05:15 PM
looks good. keep up the hard work. i hope this product works out good for you.
mcsteveof2h2h
December 20th, 2005, 07:37 PM
yeah keep it up lifts look great man
LAZ
December 20th, 2005, 08:07 PM
Any noticeable results yet??
shuttaLCD
December 21st, 2005, 11:10 PM
Well i did back/shoulders today. Wasnt the BEST workout but then again i dont like doing back that much.
I did get a nice "FULL" back though its pretty hard for me to get one of those but today it seemd to have come alot easier. The effects of the blood rush are still happening about 30mins after i take the product..My Girlfriend told me today that she notices my veins are popping out more...so thats great..
-Shutta
garb
December 22nd, 2005, 12:53 PM
looking good so far, keep up the hard work
shuttaLCD
December 28th, 2005, 11:06 AM
Hey guys,
It has been a while since i have posted up more results. I apologize but the Holidays have been BUSY.
My workouts have been GREAT the pumps are incredible! I have more vascularity throught the day as well. My endurance is raising slowly but surely. Muscle fatigue is low as well. I'll do a good set of bench or curls and not long after that (45sec) or so i am ready for the next. I actualy increased my sets by 1 due to the fact that i am jsut not as tired.
I have had one slight problem with this. I also had the same problem wiht Nutrabolics AE2. It gives me Nightmares and REALLY REALLY strange dreams. Sometimes the nightmares are so bad its actually hard to go back to sleep. LOL i'm not a puss either! LOL..But that is one thing i ahve noted with both of these products.
As of Right now this IS BETTER than Nutrabolics' AE2..Pumps are better, endurance is better overall its jsut a better product.
I will be keeping everyone posted as i go along. Again i apologize for not haveing posted in a while.
-Shutta
Trans_Isomer
December 29th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Well I have heard of NO products giving people "vivid dreams" possibly due to increased GH secretion by the body due to the arginine.
shuttaLCD
January 1st, 2006, 11:14 PM
Well the pumps are UNBELIEVABLE...I actually cut the dosage down to 7 caps daily instead of 8.
The pumps in the weight room are kinda getting so good they hurt. especially in my arms (forearms especially).
I will see if cutting down to 7 will help with the pumps and the nightmares. Still not exactly sure why i get them so bad. My friend has takein White Blood and AE2 nutrabolics without any dreams but i have nightmares on all of them...I guess i am jsut more prone to them. But The improvments in the weight rooom are unmatchable. I'm not sore the next day after lifting and i have more endurance not only while i lift but while i run too.
I'm in love with yet another great SNS product...
-Shutta
shuttaLCD
January 2nd, 2006, 01:21 AM
I was chatting with Wedgy and he advised me to get some Melatonin. I was actually going to get some but wasnt quite sure if its really worth but i will pick some up and see if it helps any with the sleep/dreams.
i'll keep everyone posted on how that goes.
-Shutta
Wes Carnegie
January 2nd, 2006, 10:21 PM
Don't look at yourself in the mirror before bedtime. That's enough to give you nightmares in the first place. I mean, the arginine is making you a monster. No but seriously... Wedgy is right. It really will help you tremendously. I think that there are other amino acids that help as well. I can't remember the name, but one of them is abundant in turkey.
Wes Carnegie
Hoplite_Warrior
January 3rd, 2006, 09:15 AM
i havent myself experienced nightmares with NO products
but one thing that guarantees me vivid dreams is taking ZMA
on ZMA i have had dreams ranging from bad nightmares, to really good dreams, the kind that involve several hot women at one time ;-)
snakemw
January 3rd, 2006, 11:44 AM
glad to see everything is going good for you in the weight room. as far as the nightmares i hope you get everyting figured out. i have never had that problem on AE2 or white blood or any other NO product for that matter. maybe dinoiii can help you out on the reason you may be having them while on these types of products.
shuttaLCD
January 3rd, 2006, 07:28 PM
I picked up some Melatonin. I am takeing 3mgs about 30mins before i go to bed. Lastnight was the first dose and i was nightmare free for the first time since i started the product. So i think i might have solved that problem. I'll see what tonight brings.
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Well i did chest and tris today.
and i must say that the strength is going up. I usually do 3 sets of 5 of 205 on bench.
Well it just felt light today and i did 3 sets of 5 of 210 on bench.
The workout was cut short due to the fact that our coach closed the room early. Put i did get in tricep pushdowns, extensions, and decline pushups.
I just recently started the decline pushups and i really like them. I feel that they help me alot with bench.
I felt AMAZING in the room today. i was PUMPED my lifting partner was going crazy at how swole i got. My skin wias REAL tight and i loved every minuet of it. This stuff is GREAT. I'll see how i feel tomorrow morning. See if any DOMS set in or something.
until then i will keep at it!
-Shutta
geyer41
January 3rd, 2006, 09:13 PM
Don't look at yourself in the mirror before bedtime. That's enough to give you nightmares in the first place. I mean, the arginine is making you a monster. No but seriously... Wedgy is right. It really will help you tremendously. I think that there are other amino acids that help as well. I can't remember the name, but one of them is abundant in turkey.
Wes Carnegie
That stuff in turkey is called tryptophan..its the same stuff that supposedly makes you tired around thanksgiving since you eat so much turkey
shuttaLCD
January 7th, 2006, 10:44 AM
another update!
My strength is increasing which i really like. and my recovery time is really fast. We had some pretty hard workouts in athletics these past 4 days and all my firneds were complaining how sore they are and i was just fine. Yes i had a very slight soreness but it was NOTHING at all like theirs.
Sleep is going great since the addition of melatonin and takeing 7caps a day i feel is just right for me. The pumps are incrediable and dont get to were i have to stop the workout. Energy is also increased along with stamina. We had to do an 8 minute run in athletc AFTER doing some other physical training. and i just kept goin a little fatigue set in about 7mins into it but it wasnt anything bad.
AWESOME!
-Shutta
shuttaLCD
January 10th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Well Sat and Sun. were off days.. Even though i didnt feel i needed them. I was well rested and my muscles felt better than ever.
Yesterday i had a great workout. I HAD to do bench incline and squat. Bench and incline are goin up in strength! and i get a nice full chest during the workout that pretty much lasted for about 6hrs.
Squat went alright. My legs have always seemd to pump up faster than any other part of my body and with the AE2 Matrix it kinda got them pumping faster. so the fullness comes real quick in them.
I did however kinda injure myself on squat. It feels like were my pheemer connects to the hip builds up fluid and pops now and then. It only gives me trouble during squat but it hurt. and has ben kinda popping since then. I will get it looked at if it doesnt go away for a little while.
-Shutta
shuttaLCD
January 12th, 2006, 10:05 PM
Hey guys,
Ran today and the legs filled up fast. I got tight really quickly which i dont like to much being that we had to run sprints..
But hey the proeuct is doing what it said it would.. Also my endurance is going up still.. All my friends were tired as dogs and i was good. Ready for more..
I havent been sore lately either. so thats all good too.
That pain in my leg is still there but only when i do squats..
-Shutta
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