King's X-Factor and MAN Scorch Stack

[Kingdime1332]

I am starting my second X-Factor cycle. The first time I used it I found it to be a pretty good supplement. I am using MAN Scorch with it this time to lose a little weight. I started this monday and my weight was 183. I am not a bodybuilder in any respect. I am a athlete so thats why the workouts might be a little more total body. I am going to lift m,w,f and run, mainly treadmill, on tues,thurs.
Stats:
5'9
180 (I want to get down to 170ish)
BF% 14

I can try to get some guesses on max weights but they are only going to be guesses because I have not done that stuff in a while. Ask any questions if you want, I will try to answer them to the best ability.

[shuttaLCD]

Hey man,

Just wanted to wish you the best of luck! I am sure you will find the X-Factor to be a nice solid product..

I'll be watching!

-Shutta

[Kingdime1332]

Yeah it should be interesting with a stacked weight loss product. Thanks.

[snakemw]

yeah good luck man. x-factor is a great bulker but it should help you lean out pretty good too especially while on Scorch.

[garb]

i know when i did my first x-factor cycle over the summer, it leaned me out pretty well. you should def. see those numbers your looking for. good luck....

[Kingdime1332]

Workout today went well, I'm just getting back to lifting really hard again. My weight was down to 178 which I attribute to a small lunch I had. Everything is going pretty well I really like the energy that Scorch gives me, not a big burst or anything just a consistent energy source.

[Kingdime1332]

I am doing some basic cardio on tuesday and thursdays so I will report what I did today. I really like the energy I get from the Scorch and I also think it might be giving me some appetite suppressant qualities. I am using Dietex about once a day so I know that is probably adding to it but I have used Dietex a lot and I have never had my appetite suppressed this much.

[dinoiii]

Hoodia properties are purported to benefit from a heavy initial dose (i.e. - like 5+ servings for about a week or so), then move into maintenance dosing. This could explain your lack of results with the Dietex. dunno.

[Kingdime1332]

Oh I did not mean to intend a lack of effect from Dietex, because when I used it intially last year I did do the 2x's a day for the first week or so (either caps or MRP). I am just saying the appetite suppression is much more pronounced. I am not really using the Dietex as a appetite suppresant, though I know it will affect it, I am mainly using it as a MRP because I really like the ease of mixing and the flavor.

[Kingdime1332]

Workout today went well, I am right around 180 pounds. I have not noticed the soreness yet, but I remember last X-Factor cycle it took a little more than a week. I did a lot of technique stuff today and it felt great. I defintely have noticed an increase in sweating, which I presume is from Scorch.

[shuttaLCD]

Yea the soreness doesnt come until about a week and a half or so..

But the sweating can also be from the X-factor..It made me sweat ALOT.

Glad to see that everything is going well though

keep up the great work!

-Shutta

[Kingdime1332]

Really I do not think I noticed a lot of sweating during X-factor during my last trial. But maybe it is increased even more because of the Scorch and X-Factor.

On a side note does anyone else who weighs themselves regularly notice a pretty significant weight discrepance?

[mcsteveof2h2h]

yeah the X-factor used to make me sweat like a pig and i bet the Scorch isnt helping lol

[garb]

your wheight changes literly 100+ times a day. it changes after every meal, or lack there of, when you sweat, exercise, and even go to the bathroom. if your looking for a more accurate approach, measure yourself the same time everyday. i like to measure myself first thing in the morning, because i know there wont be any meals, or exercise, or anything like that to influence my numbers.

[Kingdime1332]

Yeah I usually weigh myself before and after I lift which is always about the same time m,w,f. I knew it was normal to have weight changes but I was just wondering how much other people see.

On a side note I was able to get a bottle of Muscle Nitrous by VPX (not the RTD) so I will add that to this stack for a few weeks. I was able to get it really cheap because it is expiring in February.

[mcsteveof2h2h]

nice let us know how that stack works for you man

[shuttaLCD]

Ditto!


keep it goin man..

-Shutta

[Kingdime1332]

Workout today went well I came in weighing 178. I believe the soreness is starting to kick in a little more. Not much else to report.

[Kingdime1332]

I had a really hectic day today and went into my lift kinda dragging my weight was 177 but down to 175 by the end of it. It was a good workout given the conditions. I am starting to feel the extra soreness. It feels good in a sore sort of way, haha.

[mcsteveof2h2h]

lol yeah it is a good feeling makes your feel like you really did that much more

[Kingdime1332]

I had a great workout yesterday. I came in weighing 180. I had a really good workout as far as weights. It was my first great complete lifting day since getting back 4 weeks ago. Sorry for the late update, I had a bunch of finals today so I was studying all last night. Yeah I know saturday...f'n school.

[Kingdime1332]

I had a really good workout today. My weight was 180 and by the end was 178. I am starting to get some pretty good pumps throughout the day. I also did some cardio at the end of the workout, it was based on Charles Staley "No-Frills Cardio Challenge" on the EAS website. It was really intense and I got a really good sweat going.

[Kingdime1332]

Sorry about the late review but I was pretty busy all of yesterday and today. I came in weighing 179. I didn't have the greatest workout but the pumps are starting to come on. It is a definite just feeling of real tightness throughout the day.

I also have noticed a big increase in sweating over the past 2 days. I think the Scorch is starting to work more. J-Rod nice work on this product, I sent you a PM you might want to look at.

Also, on a side note Dietex by VPX is a really great product and I really think the Hoodia in it is a great appetite suppressant. It mixes great and tastes very good also.

[Kingdime1332]

Good workout today. It was pretty long as I did that EAS cardio thing. It is pretty intense. I came in weighing 178 and by the end of the workout I was at 175. My weights went well today also.

[mcsteveof2h2h]

nice job man how you dealing with the soreness and all the cardio together?

[Kingdime1332]

I haven't found the addition of cardio to increase my soreness that much. I was in pretty good shape before the cycle so I believe my muscles were a little used to the cardio aspect.

But the soreness is definitely there, I find that if you strectch a lot it will help cut down on the intensity though. I maybe just thinking that but either way being flexible is a good thing.

[Kingdime1332]

I have found the soreness is a little bit more intense but mainly the soreness just lasts longer. For example normally my glutes would not be pretty sore following a friday workout on monday but they still are. Thats why I believe that the soreness just lasts longer for me.

[Kingdime1332]

Today's workout went pretty good. I was started dropping the reps and sets on my squats and those felt very solid. My weight was a bit higher which I attribute to my girlfriend's b-day party last night and the extra food I ate. I came in weighing 179, which I was still happy with.

[Kingdime1332]

Yesterday was a very good workout. I weighed in at 178, which I was happy with because I didn't do cardio tuesday because my legs were very sore.

I believe the soreness was because of the X-Factor and also because I did lower reps and sets and higher weight this week for squats. It did feel very good though.

My cleans went great yesterday also which I think I can somewhat attribute to me not doing cardio the day before. Overall a very good workout and was happy with the weight.

[Kingdime1332]

Hello everyone, sorry for the late update I was out of town for christmas.

Today's workout went extremely well I had a great squat workout and one of my highest weights for sets of 3. I also was pleasantly surprised at my weight after the holiday lay off. I came in at 178. Overall everything going great I am getting to that point where the muscle pumps are starting to feel outstanding.

[Kingdime1332]

My workout today was a solid one. My weight was at 177 which was pretty consistent with what I have been seeing really nothing else to respond about.

[Kingdime1332]

I had a great workout today and was very happy with what happened. First sometimes when going on a cutting cycle there is a loss of some strength and power well today I found that that was not the case. My weight today was 175.

I always had a goal of getting my VJ up to 30 inches and today I was finally able to do so. I really think my weightloss contributed to this.

The other big happening was in my front squat and power snatch. I had one of my best sets of 2 with a power snatch at 82.5 KG. And my front squat was one of my better 1 rep maxes with 130 KG.

This workout showed that I had not lost my power and strength along with the fat. I am really exicted to see what my BF will be at the end of this cycle.

[shuttaLCD]

Congrats on the VJ.

Glad to see everything is going well for you. The Xfactor really helps with keeping the strength or better yet makes you even stronger.

-Shutta

[italionstallionl]

very nicely done king

[Kingdime1332]

Thanks Italion and Shutta. I really think this is a good stack for weight loss but to continue with strength and power gain.

[Kingdime1332]

I had a terrible workout yesterday. I was really sore from working out thursday and then to add on to that I have a cold so that was a bitch. My weight was at 175 so that is good, hopefully a restfuly weekend will help me recover.

[Kingdime1332]

I had a solid workout today my weight was at 175. I finished the Scorch so am I going to not use another weight loss supp for a few days then try the samples of Ventilean that I received. I will post on how that goes.

[Kingdime1332]

Ok well I tried the Ventilean today and I will post a review in the Chemist's section.

I had a pretty good workout today I love the consistency of the pumps while on X-Factor they are total body pumps that last throughout the day. I love it. I am still doing very well with the weights moving up which I am happy about for a cutting cycle. I really do like this stack of X-Factor and Scorch and will probably end up doing it again sometime.

[Kingdime1332]

Sorry about the late update but I went out of town friday and came back late today. Nothing new to report my weight was a little high because of the vacation weekend. I was at 175 but still good strength and power exercises. I must have screwed up with the X-Factor because I ended up with 1 softgel which is strange. Oh well I haven't totally decided on my next stack but it will involve NXCare Methyl Ripped.

[Kingdime1332]

I was finally able to get my body fat done to see how much improvement I had gotten over the course of this stack, and I was very surprised at the results.

At the start of the stack I weighed about 183 and was at 14% bodyfat and by the end of the stack I was weighing 173 and was at 9.5% bodyfat. That was a big accomplishment for me as I had never been below 10%.

I also had a big increase in strength and was happy with those results as well. I expected them to move up but the rate at which they increased was more than what I thought. I also increased my vertical jump above 30 inches which I had never done before.

Overall, I thought it was a great stack for weightloss. I did start running and doing more cardio and eating less which is necessary for any weight loss cycle. But the rate at which I lost fat and gained strength was something I am not sure I would have achieved with out the X-Factor and Scorch. Overall two great products and I would definitely try them again.

[garb]

good work, glad to see that this stack worked out good for you...