Best stack or products for the "Over 40" group

[littlemetalman]

After just turning 41 and knowing that the PH ban will soon be in effect I would appreciate a little advice to make a quick purchase. Here is a little personal info. to help anyone that might be able to lead me in the right - get huge - direction.

Age - 41
Years lifting - 20+
Weight - 235lbs
Height - 6'1"
Bodyfat - 14%

Goal - gain 33lbs muscle and loose 18lbs fat.

I also want to protect my liver and minimize estrogen conversion.

Any suggestions for an effective product for an Old Fart? My W.O. partner is 53 and wants to do this too.

[wedgylx]

33lbs is alot. I dont think you're going to get it from one cycle.

Have you done ph's before? If not I suggest starting off mild like 1-T and 4-AD.

If you have try some M1T and 4-AD.

[max von]

that is a pretty high goal of 33 lbs and i would be afraid that some where along the way your body fat may go way up and then you end up cutting and hopefully not lose your gains. If looks good so far just talk it slow ask questions and you will get there

max von

[littlemetalman]

I'm sorry for the confusion. Of course I don't expect to gain 33lbs of muscle from one cycle - that is just my overall goal that I would like to do within the next 6-12 months.

About 13 years ago I used some Deca and Anavar. A year and a half ago I used some of VPX Syngex 1. As of recent - 4 months ago - I used some BSN 1-T-AQ, was off for a couple of weeks and then used some Myogenix 1 Test Alpha with Biotest M Anti-Estrogen. It "sort of" worked, but not enough to make a significant difference.

The main point is that at my age I don't have enough testosterone or GH to make a fly get stronger and I want to get some SERIOUS results. I'm training hard and have started eating for function again, but I'm not up to date on what would work best for a man my age.

Some advice please.

[max von]

im 35 yoa and have had the best luck on the new cee product and esterfied no2 products i know sns and nutrobolics make good products that fit theses. I have never taken meth product so im not the best expert on that but you can do it where here to help

max von

[dinoiii]

Well, I must say Mr. Littlemetalman, you do want it all don't you

= increased muscle, decreased fat, liver protection, estrogen minimization

GEESH! Oh wait I think that we all want that. :lol:


Here's what I have used from the methyl class:
M1T, M1D, MOHN, M1,4AD

If you want help with any of those three cpds, feel free to ask.

I myself am a virgin to
M4AD (yet already have these pdts for future stacks)

So maybe that will at least give you some comfort out of how I felt about my cycles for now.

I have also used Syngex pdts., and other non-methylated things with very decent response to them. I would usually call the VPX line pretty reputable albeit pricy (some may say over-priced, yet I still manage to have put together 7 bottles of Monster test et al for the ban - would ike to order more in fact). As far as SNS, b/c of the price differential, I certainly am putting together an order for later this afternoon from da.