ALRI Cycle Sucked

[easttexasmuscle]

It's been 2 months since I've finished my ALRI Cycle. I started on 7/10/05 stacking ALRI's ERGOMAX (2x daily) & PROSTANOZOL (3x daily), along with a vitamin, extra Vitamin C, Flax Seed Oil & a Cholesterol Inhibitor Combo. I had great workouts & ate well. But after a month (8/10/05), the only result I obtained from using the ALRI products was being 1 inch larger in my waist, which I didn't need or want. I think that ALRI's products are full of sh*t! They didn't work for me at all! And after paying all that money for their products (which I ordered from Discount Anabolics), you would think I would have gotten some benefit out of the products. Even the 4 week PCT, using their ULTRA HOT & ULTRA HOTTER & Cr2 products didn't produce any results. So, I basically wasted 8 weeks & a lot of money. I don't recommend buying ANY ALRI products & using them. I feel like I got scammed!

[wedgylx]

It's been 2 months since I've finished my ALRI Cycle. I started on 7/10/05 stacking ALRI's ERGOMAX (2x daily) & PROSTANOZOL (3x daily), along with a vitamin, extra Vitamin C, Flax Seed Oil & a Cholesterol Inhibitor Combo. I had great workouts & ate well. But after a month (8/10/05), the only result I obtained from using the ALRI products was being 1 inch larger in my waist, which I didn't need or want. I think that ALRI's products are full of sh*t! They didn't work for me at all! And after paying all that money for their products (which I ordered from Discount Anabolics), you would think I would have gotten some benefit out of the products. Even the 4 week PCT, using their ULTRA HOT & ULTRA HOTTER & Cr2 products didn't produce any results. So, I basically wasted 8 weeks & a lot of money. I don't recommend buying ANY ALRI products & using them. I feel like I got scammed!

thats really strange, i know alot of people who got great results from those products.

[max von]

Considering what was in them, I think that it was a possibility. But I am suprised that you did not get any results

[easttexasmuscle]

I've always had a hard time getting results with supplements, for some reason. I've wasted thousands of dollars in years past on all the "latest products" that you've seen advertised in all the muscle mags & such. I finally realized that most of the nationally advertised stuff just wasn't going to work for me. I've tried reading some of the various bodybuilding message boards in an attempt to find out what works for others, but I usually can't afford to purchase the stuff they're taking, unless I save up for several months. After reading about the ALRI products, including going to their website, and getting some info about how to stack it from others & some message boards, I thought for sure I would get great results. But I didn't. I always make sure I'm eating properly (as good as I can) & I always have a great workout routine to use. But it just didn't happen. Being older (47), I know that I might not get as good results as a 20-year old using these products, but geez, something would be nice.

[max von]

Have you tried just the basics, like CEE and the like. I know that sometimes we overcomplicate things and that can prove to be fruitless

[easttexasmuscle]

I've tried most of the basics, recently some CEE also that I found cheap on an auction website. But I still don't seem to get the benefits that others do. I know it can't be my workouts because I usually work out harder than anyone else at my gym & often help others with their workouts. My diet could always be better, but it's still pretty good, especially in comparison to others. I do have a slow metabolism, which is one of the reasons I have to work out regularly. I have tried most of the well-known thermogenics/fat-burners on the market, but none of them have ever worked for me. I just wish that companies like ALRI were required to post real results for their products. I know that most companies hire fitness models or pro-bodybuilders to endorse their products. But those people are usually already in great shape & are given whatever they need to accomplish their goals. I'd just like to see some products that work for average guys like me.

[max von]

I've tried most of the basics, recently some CEE also that I found cheap on an auction website. But I still don't seem to get the benefits that others do. I know it can't be my workouts because I usually work out harder than anyone else at my gym & often help others with their workouts. My diet could always be better, but it's still pretty good, especially in comparison to others. I do have a slow metabolism, which is one of the reasons I have to work out regularly. I have tried most of the well-known thermogenics/fat-burners on the market, but none of them have ever worked for me. I just wish that companies like ALRI were required to post real results for their products. I know that most companies hire fitness models or pro-bodybuilders to endorse their products. But those people are usually already in great shape & are given whatever they need to accomplish their goals. I'd just like to see some products that work for average guys like me.

Do they offer a money back guarantee

[dinoiii]

I am sorry to hear about your perceived misfortune. I cannot say I think it was the ALRI product however that contributed to an extra inch on your waiste-line, but I'll bite for sure...

I think your expectations may have been a bit high when you set out for something dubbed "the next-big thing." You almost set yourself up for failure with likely lofty expectation if you buy into comments such as these.

Supplements will always remain "supplemental" and I am not sure what you expected. Failure cannot be judged solely on not giving you 28" arms and stripping 6 concurrent inches off your waiste in say 2 weeks time. Perhaps, you could elaborate on things you did during your cycle and the like and there is a way to dig up the essential culprit or perhaps put together something to use with your next cycle of anything for that matter before you begin.

As I am afraid this post may sound condescending, I am sorry in advance. But you came on blasting these products and while I will not say I am necessarily the biggest ALRI fan, a "review" would likely benefit more people with more specifics. Perhaps you could save the next guy some of the cash you feel you wasted?

[max von]

very good post dinoiii

[Ibanez]

Good post Dinoiii- I agree with you 100% Bodybuilding is such an all encompassing passion for people. There are so many factors coming into play when trying to gain muscle. Here are some that spring to my mind straight away

Natural Genetics
Correct training/form
Enough rest between workouts
Protein intake
Good sleep
Diet to support growth
Correct mindset
Supplementation
Passion

I have a client that came to me around 6 months ago for non bodybuilding related resons. I noticed he had obviously visited the 'gun store' as his arms looked great, I would say around 17"/18" Well over that last 6 months, he has had the misfortune to lose a family member, go through a messy divorce and organise child responsibilities.... His arms are now 15"/16" though he is still training. He wonders why he has lost size. When quizzed a bit more by myself, it turns out his gym focus, diet and passion have been altered (as you would expect!!) I imagine his cortisol levels have shot sky high too. These things unrelated to actual training have hampered his progress, and even if he were to have excellant supplementation support, I don't think he would be growing optimally, even if at all.

When you did call out for supplemnents East Texas, ppl did offer you help, I offered you a free tub of powder AND I was going to even pay for shipping. All the effort needed on your part was a response and an address, and it would have been sent, yet you didn't respond. That spoke volumes to me, and I guess I am not totally suprised by your attitude in this post. I am not trying to sound like a jerk, but I don't think blame can be completely laid out on supplements. I have used ALRI N'Gorge and have just had fantastic results personally, and almost everyone else here has either experienced or had others expereince great results.

I remember an interview with Larry Scott and Tom Platz back in the day. They were doing a seminar (seperately) and they opened up the Q&A time with 'whatever you want to ask people' Naturally, question no.1 was 'How do you build muscle like that? Their answer (keep in mind this is 20-30 years ago now) Flat out response was hard training and D-Bol. Thats right the AAS. Someone said can you build that type of muscle without D-Bol. Response flat out was NO! followed by call me and I will hook you up with the right guy. Sounds crazy to hear talk like that now, but back than AAS wasn't illegal.

I look at the magazines and see the amazing phsiques, but I know reality is me realising I am not gonna look like that. Not legally at least, nor without a massive change of focus on my life etc etc.

I worked out for years and got near zero results. When I literally flipped a switch onto corret diet, supplementation, no alcohol, rest protein etc.... well the results are there every day in front of the mirror now. Big change = big change physically.

[Trans_Isomer]

^^ nice post Ibanez and I agree, there are many factors that go into why something did/did not work out for you. Like earlier mentioned, diet, training, rest, lifestyle all play into how well something will work for you.
If your diet sucks, supps probaly wont do to much for you. If you smoke, drink, dont sleep, train half ass, supps probaly wont do to much for you.

Before even recommending supps to anyone, I always ask "Well hows your diet looking right now?" and "Whats your training look like?"

If I think theyre set, I recommend some stuff, if I know they can improve I tell them how to fix their diet and or training, then recommend supps.

[easttexasmuscle]

I really don't appreciate being insulted & called a liar by members of this Forum. It is neither appreciated nor wanted. The Review section is for posting information on products that have been tried, the results from using them & the poster's personal opinion of these products used. That's what I did. And what happens? I get blasted by other members & accused of being a liar, expecting unreal results & labeled as ungrateful. Before I even started my ALRI Cycle, I made a post indicating the cycle that I was going to try. I had also researched the products, including going to the ALRI website. And a well-respected member of this Forum sent me a link to another Forum where someone else had listed their ALRI cycle & what their stack was composed of, so that I could follow the same cycle. I also made a post on this forum indicating that if anyone wanted a copy of my workout routine & cycle, they could contact me. I received no inquiries, tho. In reference to the member above who considers me ungrateful for not responding to his offer of free/extra products that he had on hand, I contacted him on this current date & explained to him that I have only been back to this website a few times since he made the offer. I was not immediately aware of the offer when it was made. I apologized to him for not immediately responding. I also indicated to that person that my original post asking for any free/unused products was made months ago & since I did not receive any initial responses to it, I quit bothering to check for any. But his inference that I was ungrateful was very condescending & insulting. I don't check this Forum everyday. I've only been back to this website a few times in the last few months. He also seems to be of the opinion that I'm lying about my results with the ALRI cycle. These rude members also seem to think that I ony started working out a few months ago. That's another misconception on their part. I've stated before that I have worked out for a number of years. I've also admitted freely that I rarely get good results with supplements. And I've also indicated that I work hard for the results that I do have. I never indicated that I expected overnight miracles or unrealistic results by using these or any other supplements. What I have stated is that if a company like ALRI makes certain claims for their products & puts those claims in their advertisements & product information, then customers using those products should expect some noticable results from using the products according to the claims made for them. That's all! I see nothing unreasonable in that. Apparently, tho, some of the posters listed above think I have a poor attitude about what I expect from supplement use. I myself have never lowered myself to insulting anyone else on this Forum about their workouts, their diet or their use of supplements. I can't understand why these rude members feel that it's okay to do so to me?

[Trans_Isomer]

I dont think anyone was trying to be rude, just people trying to help by analyzing what could be the problem, i.e. your diet, training or whatnot.

Post everything about yourself, stats, supp history, current supps, training, and goals. Im sure you will get much, much help

[snakemw]

yeah i agree with Trans. i dont think anybody was trying to be rude. maybe just a little misunderstanding or something. everybody on here is here for the same reason: to get bigger, stronger and leaner. we are all here to help each other out and i dont think anybody on this forum is going to try to intentionally be rude to anybody. everybody reacts different to different supps. i think everybody was just trying to see if they could find out if there was a reason other than non responsiveness that the supps did not work well for you i.e. diet, training, or other any thing else that would hamper your results.

[Ibanez]

You are 100% totally fine to write a review of anything you like, and say what you like in addition. If it didn't work for you, you are entitled to share that. It is another thing to start getting personal and saying that the company is lieing and they sell crappy products. No one else posted anything in support of your review. My post in reply to your review simply stated that I didn't believe it was the supps at 100% fault. (It is entirely possible you don't respond to the degree others do) But things were not adding up. You wanted supps for free (which is totally cool in my book) but then you order a bunch of stuff at roughly around that time anyway. Then you grumble that the stuff you spent money on didn't work, and then start getting angry with someone who called it as they saw it?

Lets not waste anymore time on the post Texas, lets just go down to the gym and pump some iron, thats what it's all about anyway isn't it? I have nothing against you at all. I would like to hear of some products getting you the result you are after. I just posted my reply out of frustration that a guy can't even give away stuff anymore.... (I did send a private msg regarding the free supps too back in August that went to your email)

[Drake]

easttex-fist off i remember a while back when you asked for free supps, and I thought that it was real cool that people offered you help, not only with the free supps but with training advice, then you go and order some products and you didint recive the results you expected, so you come on this board and share you view. then well respected members give you some advice that you dont like and you rant on like you where flamed and your integrity was questioned. I doubt that you would have receved such helpfull and flame free response on some of the other BB boards. I personaly think that ones attitude and determination can give better results than most supps, lastly I think you age may play a factor as well. at 47 results will take longer, recovery takes longer, you may not achieve what you want like you could have back in the day. im not knocking you age but i does play a factor.
Im shure that we can find something that can get you some gains, I look forward to seing it work out for you.
-Drake

[dinoiii]

Put up a post and its subject for review on a PUBLIC FORUM. I am not as nice as these guys apparently, because I really see their responses as letting you off the hook.

You reference supplements "working" - bull. I call your bluff! Supplements "aid" at best. They MUST be used in conjunction with a complete program. I tried being diplomatic - and it was neither condescending nor insulting dammit. I actually take offense to both your response on here and on the PM system where you didn't get an apology either.

Later today, I am letting you guys in on the ENTIRE program I am following now as an article posted in the appropriate section followed by a subsequent post of a thread to follow progress in the "review" section for log of one particular product. PLEASE NOTE: I hope people critique it until they are blue in the face as I have attempted to take EVERYTHING INTO consideration and a lot of planning has gone into putting it together for over 2 years. YEAH YOU READ IT RIGHT! Something I am certain you don't have a clue about.

You're asking to defy genetics dammit. Supplements will never change what stares back at you every day in the mirror.

Sure I could have sugarcoated my response, but I don't find it worth it. We don't always enjoy the truth I suppose!

[max von]

I will not jump on the bandwagon here as the rest have expressed there feeling. Just keep in mind that the object of a forum is to debate issues. If you are going to post a thread that a product sucks them you are going to get all kinds of reactions

[dinoiii]

max - sent you a PM