iForce Massive Stack Timing

[jsn]

I purchased this stack and I have a couple questions.
I got lazy with my diet and training the last couple months and I'm down from 154lbs in nov to about 140lbs now I'm 5'8" 30 years old. This will be my 3rd or 4th ph cycle and I've never had any problems in the past. I've been totally sup free cept for occasional creatine/no preworkout since nov. Thank you for your imput.
1. I'm not real sure about timing with this stack. When should I take what? Seems like several need to be taken in the am or 30 min prior, is it safe to take them at the same time? I generally train at about 8am.
2 My ultimate goal is 160 I don't expect that from this cycle but just how much should I eat while on cycle. What point is over kill?
3. Can I take z-force while on this cycle to help shut down/libido a little or is that over kill?
4. Since I'm only 140 right now are the recommended dosages to high or are they not weight dependent?
5. I also already have liver support sups in line, what should I stack with the formadex for pct.

[mw1111]

What does your diet consist of ? You should be above 140 if this is your 3 or fourth stack

[jsn]

I started at 130 and I have a high metabolism. It took those couple cycles to get me to 154. My diet was pretty much eat as much clean as possible 4 times daily with out making my self uncomfortable along with a morning half whey/ half gainer shake another post workout and and casien shake before bed. On one cycle I was eating clean till stuffed every 2 hours lol. But I gained some fat around my mid section durring that but that may be just unavoidable. Work/personal pressures had me pretty much eating wrong, to little and infrequently for the last couple months which is why so much of my gains have disappeared. I actually haven't lost much strength i suspect I'm more deflated than anything if there is such a thing. I think most of my previous gains will come back quickly lol <crosses fingers>

[jsn]

I've done 3 cycles none where stacks and 1 was methyl vol (i think if thats the one that is superdrol) I had to end it abruptly due to personal issues unrelated to training. Didn't really make any gains there But I still count it in my mind because the chemicals went in my body. I feel like it has to be counted for when I say you know what i've done as much of that as i'm gonna do for health precautions lol.

[jsn]

Anyone? Especially on the dosages and timing. I was hoping to start tmw. Thanks!!

[dalvare1]

bold should be taken 2x per day, once before training and once in the evening.

Methadrol should also be preworkout.

As for the BCS product, I would follow the reccommended dosing.

Testabolan should be right when you wake up and right before bed.



Any other q's just let me know.

[mw1111]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Knew IForce would show up soon.:)

[jsn]

If I take the mdrol and bold around 7:30 then work out at 8, what time should I take the second. Should I also take the second bold and mdrol together or would it be better to space them out? The stack the way it is will leave me with like 40 mdrol left over is there a reason it's limited to only 2 a day for only 3 weeks while useing bold? It seems like from what i've read on here cycles are usually 4-6 weeks. Also if everything goes well would it be ok to continue either bold or the remaining mdrol longer before starting pct?

[jsn]

Holy crap. 1 Week in I'm up over 11lbs!! I realize some of that is food in my belly but I started eating all I could stomache a day before getting my starting weight. I'm up from 139.8 to 151.2lbs. 0 sides so far I couldn't be happier. I never thought I would get my gains back so quickly hopefully this continues into making new gains. Why is mdrol limited to 3 weeks in this stack when there is enough for twice that? (I know 6 weeks is to long but why is it stoped at 3 instead of 4) If i continue to have little to no sides could I extend it? Or is there a really good reason it is limited when stacked with bold and testaboln? Would it be a safer option if I wanted to extend the cycle to extend the bold testabolin instead? My goal is to get to a maintainable 160lbs.

[dalvare1]

Holy crap. 1 Week in I'm up over 11lbs!! I realize some of that is food in my belly but I started eating all I could stomache a day before getting my starting weight. I'm up from 139.8 to 151.2lbs. 0 sides so far I couldn't be happier. I never thought I would get my gains back so quickly hopefully this continues into making new gains. Why is mdrol limited to 3 weeks in this stack when there is enough for twice that? (I know 6 weeks is to long but why is it stoped at 3 instead of 4) If i continue to have little to no sides could I extend it? Or is there a really good reason it is limited when stacked with bold and testaboln? Would it be a safer option if I wanted to extend the cycle to extend the bold testabolin instead? My goal is to get to a maintainable 160lbs.

YYYEEEAAHHHH BUDDY!

haha glad to see your having awesome results. Keep slammin the weights.

and go 4 weeks like I said

[usf97j4x4]

SD - Making miracles :D

[jsn]

Just as to not mislead anyone. My stomache's output caught up with my input and yesterday I was back down to almost 145. Still incredible for 8 days in. Who knew my stomache could hold so much food lol. Still no sides. libido is down a bit, not in ability but in lack of random thoughts. Also I seem content to go to bed an hour or so earlier than normal but i'm not dead tired or larthigic or anything like that.

[usf97j4x4]

Just as to not mislead anyone. My stomache's output caught up with my input and yesterday I was back down to almost 145. Still incredible for 8 days in. Who knew my stomache could hold so much food lol.

You aint' seen nothin yet my boy. :D

[joe_33]

how many mg of methadrol are you taking a day 10mg or 20 mg?

[jsn]

Currently I'm taking 1 testabolan 1 bold 200 and 1 mdrol around 7-8am and another mdrol and bold 200 around 3-4pm then 2 testabolan before bed. so I think the answer to your question is 20mg.

[joe_33]

you take your first dose at 730 am, what time do you work out? morning or afternoon? thanks for the reply.

[kumora]

bold should be taken 2x per day, once before training and once in the evening.

Methadrol should also be preworkout.

As for the BCS product, I would follow the reccommended dosing.

Testabolan should be right when you wake up and right before bed.


Hey dalvare,
I reputable forum member stated in a different post "As for the Bold, its a waste of time to only run it for a month. You need to run it for 8 weeks minimum at 600mg/day minimum." Is he right? Is more better or excessive? Or does it depend on body mass, experience, and tolerance? I might do this stack in a few months and would like to hear your advice. Thanks

[mw1111]

I would not say a "waste" but to get its full potential 8 weeks would be highly recommended.

[jsn]

I workout in the morning. A Little over 149 just for an update day 11 I think. I've also seen alot about running bold at 600-800 for 8 weeks. I'm planing on extending the methadrol to 4 weeks as long as side are still non existant but not past that. Would it be a bad idea health wise to up my bold dosage (currently at 400) at some point or to extend the bold/testabolan to 8 weeks? Or maybe even increase the bold once I drop the methadrol and extend it to 8 weeks?
Currently my stack looks like this:
week 1: mdrol 20mg/ bold 400/ testabolan 3pills
week 2 & 3: Same
Week 4: Same as long as no sides, scratch mdrol otherwise
Week 5-8: PCT
Contemplating this instead:
Week 1: mdrol 20mg/ bold 400/ testabolan 3pills
Week 2-4: Same
Week 5-8: Bold 600-800/ testabolan 3 pills
Week 9-12: PCT
Guess I could even go 600 on bold the last week with mdrol then 800 after I stop the mdrol? Let me know what you guys think?

[mw1111]

I workout in the morning. A Little over 149 just for an update day 11 I think. I've also seen alot about running bold at 600-800 for 8 weeks. I'm planing on extending the methadrol to 4 weeks as long as side are still non existant but not past that. Would it be a bad idea health wise to up my bold dosage (currently at 400) at some point or to extend the bold/testabolan to 8 weeks? Or maybe even increase the bold once I drop the methadrol and extend it to 8 weeks?
Currently my stack looks like this:
week 1: mdrol 20mg/ bold 400/ testabolan 3pills
week 2 & 3: Same
Week 4: Same as long as no sides, scratch mdrol otherwise
Week 5-8: PCT
Contemplating this instead:
Week 1: mdrol 20mg/ bold 400/ testabolan 3pills
Week 2-4: Same
Week 5-8: Bold 600-800/ testabolan 3 pills
Week 9-12: PCT
Guess I could even go 600 on bold the last week with mdrol then 800 after I stop the mdrol? Let me know what you guys think?
At your weight i would rec. 10, 20, 20 on the Mdrol NOT 20,20,20,20 ,is this yout first cycle JSN?

[jsn]

no 4th. did a phera vol cycle, a methyl stack cycle, and part of a methyl-vol cycle that I had to end abruptly due to personal issues. Spread out over the last 2 years. Took a break from the gym and almost all supps for about 4 months before starting this. It's to late to step up like that as I'm on day 11 already. I was just following the massive stack instructions. No deffinate sides as of yet although I have to admit I've had a pain in the center of my right upper back that just won't go away today. Is that perhaps what I hear described as a back pump??? Its not regular soreness as it's actually time to work my back today. What do you think of my alternate options. I'm trying to hit 160 by june (going on vacation) and was hoping to extend this cycle since I won't safely have time for pct and another.

[jsn]

since I did 20 from the start should I stop the mdrol at 3 weeks instead of 4 even if sides are tolerable?

[mw1111]

well since you have had previous cycles under you - you MAY be able to go four weeks but keep it at 20mg for your weight. You need to go to walmart or cvs and get some taurine for those back pumps or you may not finish this week;) . Dose the taurine at 5-8mgs a day( it took 7-8 g a day for me) and u should be drinking plenty of water.
Keep us posted on how its going.

[jsn]

Yea I hadn't even considered upping the methadrol and I'm only going to continue it through the 4th week if the sides stay low and no longer than that no matter what. My main question is what to do with the bold/testabolan weeks 4-8 or stop everything after week 4 and start pct? If it's a bad Idea I won't do it but I'd really like to stretch the cycle some how if it can be done safely. Also back seems fine this morning that pain never left yesterday but it wasn't ever very bad and it's gone now. Did have some minor tingling feeling in the same area last night before bed but that is also gone. Heading to the gym to work back/abs today. Any thoughts on bold/testabolan weeks 4-8? No matter what I'll wait on my final decision until week 4 and see how things are going side wise but if I'm going to consider stretching my cycle it I'll need to put an order in. What do you think?
Update: Day 12, 151.4 bf same
thats 11.6lbs in 12 days very happy

[jsn]

Update:
Day 13 153.2 lbs
13.4 lbs :) 160 here I come!!
Yesterday and so far today I have some soreness in my lower back on the sides. Could this be a kidney issue? I read lots about the liver but not much on kidneys. Is there something I can take to help them out or just increase my water intake which is already at a gallon or so a day. Maybe stay away from creatine for a couple days?

[jsn]

Got much worse after my work out today but almost completely went away about an hour after. Today was legs/ lower back. So I pretty sure the soreness I'm feeling there is some sort of lower back pump. I'm gonna stay away from creatine for the rest of my cycle just in case to not add extra stress to the kidneys. I'm still seeking some advice for bold/testabolan dosage for weeks 5-8. Anyone??

[yokingupsick]

so what does your pct look like?

[dalvare1]

So you are up 13 pounds? Awesome man!


Yeah those are back pumps, start taking taurine and drinking more water and they will go away.

[jsn]

I stoped my cycle after day 30. I'm probably half way through pct and am currently 151-152. So all in all I probably gained about 12-13 lbs. No complaints at all. I did seem to spend the last week and a week or so into pct sick with a bad cough and on and off bouts of fever/ loss of appitite. I never get sick so I'm sure my immune system was suppressed quite a bit. My gains had stopped probably due to my sickness. So thats why I stoped instead of extending my stack 4 more weeks with the bold alone. Still I'm looking forward to doing it again once enough time has passed. My pct is formadex and testabolan.