2nd cycle help pleaseeeeeee!!!!

[shstb23]

ok here is my predicament...

I am deciding on what to stack Hdrol with for a 6 week May 08 cycle...

Bold- $$$$$ lot of money for a 6-8 week cycle of 600/800mg ED....

Tren- Ive been hearing a lot lately about depression, bad headaches, mood swings, etc...obviously all PH's tamper with your hormone levels, but this seems to be extreme....thoughts?

Epi- not sure about using a double methyl...

help please!!!!!!!!

my goals are LEAN LEAN LEAN muscle gain, strength, and fat loss...

THANKS!!!!:D

[bmoremade26]

id go with trenadrol for 4 weeks with it start at 60 and load up on hawthorne berry 2 weeks prior to cycle good choice in h drol ull be happy with it solo for 6 weeks :)

[neonhypoxia]

I think the headaches on tren are only if your blood pressure goes unchecked. As for the depression and mood swings I know that with Trenbolone its only a big deal with people who already have issues with that. Tren is close to Trenbolone but not exactly so I'm not sure if the effects would be the same

[cubfan4real]

ok here is my predicament...

I am deciding on what to stack Hdrol with for a 6 week May 08 cycle...

Bold- $$$$$ lot of money for a 6-8 week cycle of 600/800mg ED....

Tren- Ive been hearing a lot lately about depression, bad headaches, mood swings, etc...obviously all PH's tamper with your hormone levels, but this seems to be extreme....thoughts?

Epi- not sure about using a double methyl...

help please!!!!!!!!

my goals are LEAN LEAN LEAN muscle gain, strength, and fat loss...

THANKS!!!!:D

BOLD rocks, and is definitely worth the $$$ if you can swing it. H-Drol is amazing; I'm on Day 18 of a 4-week Hdrol/Prop stack right now.

I've got a bottle of Tren in the Freezer for my next run.

My suggestion: Run H-Drol for 4 weeks @ 50/50/75/75 and BOLD @ 800mg for 6-8 weeks.

[bmoremade26]

BOLD rocks, and is definitely worth the $$$ if you can swing it. H-Drol is amazing; I'm on Day 18 of a 4-week Hdrol/Prop stack right now.

I've got a bottle of Tren in the Freezer for my next run.

My suggestion: Run H-Drol for 4 weeks @ 50/50/75/75 and BOLD @ 800mg for 6-8 weeks.

u will love the trenadrol bro

[cubfan4real]

u will love the trenadrol bro

I was thinking about stacking Tren with either BOLD or H-Drol so this thread is intriguing to me...

[bmoremade26]

hdrol and tren was also what i was thinking would be killer on strength

[mw1111]

Dehydration also causes people to have headaches on Tren - you have to get ALOT of water. Alot of neg symtoms fromTren are also people taking it as their first PH without knowing exactly how strong thses are IMO.

[neonhypoxia]

Alot of neg symtoms fromTren are also people taking it as their first PH without knowing exactly how strong thses are IMO.

I think that's true for alot of PHes. I mean how many people have posted their previous PH experience and the first one was something like sd?

[fjet]

i ran bold200 @ 600 and tren at 60 and gained 12lbs solid.. .no fat.. loved the tren strength... i got so strong i was making personal records on every lift i did... be carefull... i went home sometimes wanting to lift more... than i should... luckily no injuries... but tht is exactly how you blow out your shoulders and low back problems... i highly recommend you run hawthorn berry 2 wks before you start and run it into pct. also i would run 9grms of fish oil with this stack... and a creatine if you have a fav. helps keep water in..

good luck

[shstb23]

thanks a ton for all the responses guys!!

still a tough choice between Bold and Tren...tren might have a slight advantage because the strength is unmatched...

but I hear such good things about bold too:confused:

[shstb23]

as for cycle doses/length....Bold i would go for 800mg as stated before...

would 6 weeks tren/hdrol be too long? Or should I stick with the 4 weeks...

[shstb23]

OH BTW

CUBSFAN4REAL

ur from milwaukee and like the cubs?

funny cause I'm from sheboygan and I like the bears!! haha my dads from chicago so i was born and bred chitown....its pretty fun in packerland dont you agree:)

[cubfan4real]

OH BTW

CUBSFAN4REAL

ur from milwaukee and like the cubs?

funny cause I'm from sheboygan and I like the bears!! haha my dads from chicago so i was born and bred chitown....its pretty fun in packerland dont you agree:)

Yes.. But I'm born and bred outside of Chicago. I moved to the land of cheese and sausage in 1999.

I'm a Bears fan too; can't stand anything Packers.

[mw1111]

thanks a ton for all the responses guys!!

still a tough choice between Bold and Tren...tren might have a slight advantage because the strength is unmatched...

but I hear such good things about bold too:confused:
It all depends on your goals they are both very different ( and both great ) products.



as for cycle doses/length....Bold i would go for 800mg as stated before...

would 6 weeks tren/hdrol be too long? Or should I stick with the 4 weeks...
I did 6 weeks Tren with Halo stacked for 4 of those weeks. _very good cycle.

[shstb23]

ok so I think Im gonna go with tren 6 weeks, hdrol for the last 4 of those weeks...

would on board test booster be recommended? If so...what would be the best? Testabolan?

[mw1111]

ok so I think Im gonna go with tren 6 weeks, hdrol for the last 4 of those weeks...

would on board test booster be recommended? If so...what would be the best? Testabolan?
I had to add Hyperyest on week 5 and6 for lethargy(seemed to help) at Half dose .

[mw1111]

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would on board test booster be recommended? If so...what would be the best? Testabolan?

Ive never got to try testabolin yet....I've never heard any complaints about it though :)

[shstb23]

Ive taken Prop before dosed at 60mg ED and had no issues (however there is an anti-e in it)

what are the chances of prolactin issues with Tren? Dosed at 60mg ED for 6 weeks, I weigh 203 about right now....

[bmoremade26]

now someone told me ( a reliable source ) that running something like usplabs powerful on a cycle would prevent prolactin issues

[shstb23]

hmmm defintly something I'll look into for preventative measures!!

Any known effects from that on results?

[Voodoo]

Tren- Ive been hearing a lot lately about depression, bad headaches, mood swings, etc...obviously all PH's tamper with your hormone levels, but this seems to be extreme....thoughts?

You're right, they're being ridiculous:

Headaches are from blood pressure - hawthorne berry

Mood Swings - non existent.

Depression - its tax time, dont read too far into pills making you depressed the squishy thing between your ears has an amazing placebo effect. In other words, no.

To those who perpetuate the "trenadrol causes depression" mentality;
http://www.happypestcontrol.com/webextras/fired.jpg

[shstb23]

thanks Voo, you've solidified my choices and decisions!! Much appreciated!!