PH's that will not cause a significant rise in Blood Pressure and Cholesterol

[ShadyGrady]

Ok experts out there and you folks are the experts!!! My last cycle last year Oct 08 I stacked P-Plex with Proprodrol and man it was a great cycle as far as strength gains and incredible pumps but with all good things there are the bad. My blood pressure rose from an average of 121/70 to 146/92, cholesterol shot through the roof. I am 47, healthy, Bodyfat at 18 /19 percent, do not smioke, rarely drink but I do luv my lifting and feeling good.

Now if you guys tell me to go fly a kite , my days on PH are done I will give it up for good! But surely with all the PH on the market there must be something out there with low side effects. Your thoughts?

Thanks

Shady

[usf97j4x4]

I feel you bro, I am on P-Plex now and the last 3 weeks I was averaging 120 syst, now I am at a cool 140 sys and feeling it. I hate HBP...

Most PHs do it though, its the nature of the beast.

[DriverDan]

Bold and Jungle Warfare come to mind. Were you taking support sups like Hawthorn Berry?

I have blood tests from the end of 8 weeks of JW, my cholesterol was ~100 total :eek:

[llllern]

methyl 1 D

[usf97j4x4]

Good call mw, Bold actually didnt have much of an effect on my blood pressure... however... it did have a notable effect on my wallet. :D

[scott1122]

the unfortunate thing with these substances is that everyone is affected differently. Now if you experience elevated bp on those (not meaning that they r easier compounds) but you'll prob experience it on all of em. It sucks I know, however high bp is usually caused by water retention. So get an anti-aromatase (such as aromasin or called exemestane) and that is one of the best AIs there are while improving your cholesterol. There r other AIs such as liquidex that absolutely reak havok on ur lipids.

Also any 1-andro/1-test type of product will be safe. Stay away from anything methylated or anything with a 17a (17alpha alkylated..) as these protectants will cause higher increases in bp.. Actually I should say can cause.. Also any sort of tren product u need to steer clear of.. So basically u got 1-andro and bold and unfortunately thats about it.. The others u will need aroma and dosed around 12.5-25mgs ed to eod

[ShadyGrady]

Scott

Thank you sir for that outstanding information. On my last cycle I took the hawthorne Berry like two weeks before my cycle started and I still had the high BP. Sucks getting old I guess but hey I feel great right now great BP and I do labs at the end of Feb to see where my Cholesterol is.

But you know the temptation is always there for just one more cycle, one more heavy bench cycle, one more chance of setting a personal best on your lifts, it gets in the blood. :D

Anyway, thanks for your outstanding information!

Shady

[neonhypoxia]

You might want to try CoQ10 for your bp as well as lowering your sodium intake and raising the amount of potassium in your diet. Cholestorol... watch what you eat, and in some people fish oil can help. But that's pretty much it for on cycle.