Epi/ H-drol or Fura/ H-drol???

[buckeyejake]

I am setting up my 3rd PH. 1st hemadrol/propadrol, 2nd Tren/ Phera-vol, looking to run either epi or fura w/ CEL H-rol. I am 33, 183, w/ 13% b/f. I have ran a search and got alot of threads on both but no real testimonials. Thanks for the help.

[GotTest]

I am setting up my 3rd PH. 1st hemadrol/propadrol, 2nd Tren/ Phera-vol, looking to run either epi or fura w/ CEL H-rol. I am 33, 183, w/ 13% b/f. I have ran a search and got alot of threads on both but no real testimonials. Thanks for the help.
Go with the Epi, buckeye!
Taper you're way up to a LEAST 40mg for week 3-4. Stacked with Hdrol, you'll utilize BOTH classes of PH.
:D

[buckeyejake]

Do you suggest any particular Epi? IBE vs EST ? On a side note; I am about doen w/ my 2nd PH which had Tren. I needed 2 bottles but I will have about 2 .5 weeks worth of Tren leftover. Any advantage or negative of throwing it in my next stack for the last several weeks. Would it be a waste or do you think it would help?

[mw1111]

Well is this going to be more of a recomp /cut ? If so i recommend Hdrol and Furazadrol. -6 weeeks

[buckeyejake]

Suggestion on dosage? Yeah, I would say this is a recomp. I loved my last PH got up to 185 which is my biggest yet. I would like to harden up a bit more next time. I will be using CEL for my H-drol, is ramping up to 75 OK, if so should I ramp back down at end?

[mw1111]

How many weeks did u want this cycle?

[buckeyejake]

I am flexible. Just ran 6 weeks last PH and it was not that bad. Actually liked the 6 weeks, it made me eat better. 4 or 6 is fine with me.

[mw1111]

Lately running Hdrol for 6 weeks has been popular like this:
WEEKS1-2 50mg
WEEKS 3-6 75 mg
Others have ran it weeks 1 and 6 at 50 , weeks 2thru 5 at 75mg

[mw1111]

Adding Tren , id probably make some adjustments there( and definitely be ready to make some on cycle depending on how everything goes.

[Omega Man]

Does 3mg-5mg M-trn (original and GL) and 50-100mg Halodrol (original and CEL) sound good?

I was thinking
------TRN/HD
Week1 3 / 50
Week2 3 / 50
Week3 4.5/ 75
Week4 4.5/ 75
Week5 5mg/ 75-100
Week6 5mg/ 75-100

PCT with ALRI restore and Nolva.

[mw1111]

Its more than i would want to do . I would'nt use Nolva-its more tovicthan some PH's

[usf97j4x4]

Epi/Halo would be killer!! Let me know if you need help on dosages.

[Omega Man]

I don't think nolva for 4 weeks is very toxic. the studies where it has shown toxicity were on women taking it for several years. I have nolva and clomid on hand and since clomid makes me very moody i don't want to take that. torem is prob the best bet, but i'm going to finish my nolva. But back to my cycle itself. What's too much about it? Is my hdrol dose too high, should i keep it at 75? And should I run mtrn the entire time. I was thinking just the first 4 weeks then run the hdrol solo. Thanks

[solomon1979]

I don't think nolva for 4 weeks is very toxic. the studies where it has shown toxicity were on women taking it for several years. I have nolva and clomid on hand and since clomid makes me very moody i don't want to take that. torem is prob the best bet, but i'm going to finish my nolva. But back to my cycle itself. What's too much about it? Is my hdrol dose too high, should i keep it at 75? And should I run mtrn the entire time. I was thinking just the first 4 weeks then run the hdrol solo. Thanks

Using Clomid at 50mg every day will minimize the moody feelings that can accompany it. FWIW, I think H-Drol and Epistane is a very poor choice and have yet to see anything that would make me think that it was a good stack.

[mw1111]

my fav w/ Hdrol are Tren or furaz depending on what my goals are.

[shstb23]

Hey MW,

I remember you telling me that you need to dose up furaz to 250-300 to really get a good run with it...phew lotta money going into that then...

so what kinda results does Epi yield when stacked with Hdrol in respect to Tren stacked with Hdrol? For a 6 weeks cycle.

[buckeyejake]

What would the difference be in Epi vs Fura? My goals are strength, and getting cut, a little mass is OK too.

[The Damage]

What would the difference be in Epi vs Fura? My goals are strength, and getting cut, a little mass is OK too.

I would stay away from running any unbridged double meth cycle.

For your goals I'd recommend a 4-6 week cycle of H Drol/Trenadrol leaning more toward strength/lean mass over strength/recomp with the right support supplements.

For an all out cutting cycle I'd go for either H Drol/Fura or Epi/Fura.

Good luck, take care of your joints, and stay hydrated. ;)

[LivenLarge]

Errr....

I am a dumb@ss... Meant to start a fresh thread....

Whooopss!!!

[GotTest]

Not a big fan of Fura mainly because the dosing has to be pretty high to make any significant gains.
I just love Epi.!
It is one of those PH that just makes me "feel good" while I'm ON. Though it's a methyl, it's just not that hard on the lipids like the others are(though I would NOT exclude liver support supps).
Strength, hardness, pumps, libido, what more could you ask for. :D

I would personally stay away from IBE, and go with Epidrol, Methyl-E, Havoc.

[shstb23]

Epi sounds pretty interesting....good to stack with Hdrol??

Whats the comparason between Epi and Tren do you think??

[mw1111]

Hey MW,

I remember you telling me that you need to dose up furaz to 250-300 to really get a good run with it...phew lotta money going into that then...


Furaz does get expensive at those doses. I still prefer Hdrol/ Tren over all the other combos.

i also dont like a double -methyl, people have done it but i dont want to be one of them.:)

[GotTest]

Whats the comparason between Epi and Tren do you think??
You can't beat the strength you get from Tren!
Tren may hit you with sides a lot harder than Epi though.

[shstb23]

how would you suggest dosing tren?

for a 6 week cycle...would bumping up to 90 inthe last few weeks be too much?

[bmoremade26]

i am fortunate to not have many sides from tren at all id go with h drol /trenadrol

[buckeyejake]

I just got off a Tren/ Pheravol PH. Yes tren is great but I want to use H-drol and ???????? I think it will be Epi. Proposed cycle Methyl E 6 weeks at 30/30/40/40/40/30 then H-drol at 50/75/75/75/75/50. Is that too much? Tried to figure a way to use 2 bottles of each.

[bmoremade26]

id go with h drol and furaz .. ewhat is ur ph experience ?

[shstb23]

what kinda lean mass gains will accompany hdrol stacked with tren? I know strength will be good...how bout lean mass tho

[buckeyejake]

In the past I have ran Hemadrol/Propadrol 1st PH, Tren/ Phera Vol for my second. I am in my PCT right now but I just want to get my next one set. Thinking mid summer.

[GotTest]

i am fortunate to not have many sides from tren at all id go with h drol /trenadrol
Lucky Dog! I'm jealous.:x
That combo would send my BP through the roof.

[usf97j4x4]

Lucky Dog! I'm jealous.:x
That combo would send my BP through the roof.

Wonder how it is on aggression.

I am a seriously aggressive, hot tempered person without PHs. I am on Form/P-Plex right now, only 10 days in and my wife is ready to divorce me, she says I am "out of control" lol

I've heard Tren will really bring that out

[bmoremade26]

tren hasnt done that with me and im also a hot tempered person but phera plex or trenadrol havent gave me any extra negative aggression

[buckeyejake]

I am very easy going but towards the end of my PH I would snap pretty easy. I did not get angry or violent but I was annoyed by the smallest of things. There is no doubt that it changed my mood. What are your opinions on my next proposed stack? Too high of doses?

[The Damage]

Wonder how it is on aggression.

I am a seriously aggressive, hot tempered person without PHs. I am on Form/P-Plex right now, only 10 days in and my wife is ready to divorce me, she says I am "out of control" lol

I've heard Tren will really bring that out

What's your cycle layout bro?

How well is the E Form combatting water retention so far?